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I keep wanting to break out into Metallica's "Master of Puppets" song.
This is entirely your fault Dave.
And that is a problem why? ;) I am looking forward to this one.
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I keep wanting to break out into Metallica's "Master of Puppets" song.
This is entirely your fault Dave.
And fixed :p
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I'll do more of this sort of post closer to the release date, but here are some notes on one of the films that would have inspired Master of Devils if I'd seen it before finishing the manuscript: Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame.
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I'll do more of this sort of post closer to the release date, but here are some notes on one of the films that would have inspired Master of Devils if I'd seen it before finishing the manuscript: Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame.
I've added several more wuxia film recommendations at my blog. Another's coming on Monday.
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I was present at Paizocon for Mr. Gross to discuss this book, and he mentioned the chronological timing of this book and the next entry in the Pathfinder Chronicles fiction featuring Varian and Radovan.
I forget the order though....
I believe it was Master of Devils, THEN the Jade Regent fiction?
I know it's not important to the stories but I still like to be in order. =) Any help?
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I was present at Paizocon for Mr. Gross to discuss this book, and he mentioned the chronological timing of this book and the next entry in the Pathfinder Chronicles fiction featuring Varian and Radovan.
I forget the order though....
I believe it was Master of Devils, THEN the Jade Regent fiction?
I know it's not important to the stories but I still like to be in order. =) Any help?
Let me emphasize that the order in which you read them truly doesn't matter. In fact, the Wayfinder/Web story "A Lesson in Taxonomy" is chronologically the first Varian Jeggare story, but it's much more fun to read it after experiencing the first few tales of Radovan and the Count.
Chronologically it's "A Passage to Absalom" (the web fiction starting next Wednesday), then "Husks" (the AP serial), and then Master of Devils.
I wrote them in reverse chronological order, though, so there's a good argument for going backward.
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Let me emphasize that the order in which you read them truly doesn't matter. In fact, the Wayfinder/Web story "A Lesson in Taxonomy" is chronologically the first Varian Jeggare story, but it's much more fun to read it after experiencing the first few tales of Radovan and the Count.
Chronologically it's "A Passage to Absalom" (the web fiction starting next Wednesday), then "Husks" (the AP serial), and then Master of Devils.
I wrote them in reverse chronological order, though, so there's a good argument for going backward.
Thank you Dave! That reassures me.
I guess while we are on the subject (and to help those who are also HUGE fans of V&R!), what are the other orders of their stories?
I think we can obviously say Prince of Wolves is before the Tian stories, but before that, does it go A Lesson in Taxonomy -> Hell's Pawns -> Lost Pathfinder -> Prince of Wolves?
I'm OCD about chronological orders...
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I finally posted a review on my blog. I had hoped to get this out before GenCon, so folks would be encouraged to pick up the novel there. Sorry for the delay.
I didn't post the full review in the "reviews" section, because it's a double-feature post for Prince of Wolves and Master of Devils. It is a very long article.
I will post a link to the same article on Amazon.com when I'm able to enter a review on their website. It's still listed as "unavailable" there.
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Quote:Let me emphasize that the order in which you read them truly doesn't matter. In fact, the Wayfinder/Web story "A Lesson in Taxonomy" is chronologically the first Varian Jeggare story, but it's much more fun to read it after experiencing the first few tales of Radovan and the Count.
Chronologically it's "A Passage to Absalom" (the web fiction starting next Wednesday), then "Husks" (the AP serial), and then Master of Devils.
I wrote them in reverse chronological order, though, so there's a good argument for going backward.
Thank you Dave! That reassures me.
I guess while we are on the subject (and to help those who are also HUGE fans of V&R!), what are the other orders of their stories?
I think we can obviously say Prince of Wolves is before the Tian stories, but before that, does it go A Lesson in Taxonomy -> Hell's Pawns -> Lost Pathfinder -> Prince of Wolves?
I'm OCD about chronological orders...
That's right.
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I'm wondering if there's any copies out there, besides mine, that had issues with faintly printed pages. They aren't so faint I can't read the pages but there is quite a difference in those pages and other pages.
Precisely ONE page of mine had this problem, so I know what you are talking about, at least.
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Christopher Paul Carey |
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I'm wondering if there's any copies out there, besides mine, that had issues with faintly printed pages. They aren't so faint I can't read the pages but there is quite a difference in those pages and other pages.
That's a printer error. The inking looks good on all the copies I've seen. I'll alert customer service to this and see if they can't take care of you.
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Chris Ballard wrote:I'm wondering if there's any copies out there, besides mine, that had issues with faintly printed pages. They aren't so faint I can't read the pages but there is quite a difference in those pages and other pages.That's a printer error. The inking looks good on all the copies I've seen. I'll alert customer service to this and see if they can't take care of you.
Email sent :D
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So now for the nerdy part. I know i know it's a novel and doesn't have to 100% follow the PF rules, but indulge me.
Radovan was revealed to be a CL7 (rog5/mnk2) character in KQ14. I don't know at which point in the novels/stories that is but it feels about right for before Prince of Wolves. Now in Master of Devils without doubt both Jeggare and Radovan gain a few levels, learning some monkish skills...
For example Radovan learns the High Jump monk skill (mmk5) and later Abundant Step (mnk12!)and even Quivering Palm(mnk15!!!). Is he really a 15 the level monk at the end of the novel then? On top of his rogue levels? Or is there a spell or a function of his devil-side that allows him to gain those skills?
This would mean a significant increase of character level between the novels, which i just can't really . It breaks suspension of disbelief at bit for the continuity imho. No doubt the novel is a great fun high level adventure but i can't quite wrap my head around that crass shift of power level of the protagonists.
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So now for the nerdy part. I know i know it's a novel and doesn't have to 100% follow the PF rules, but indulge me.
** spoiler omitted **
Another look at Chapter Six might answer your question, but if not I'll give you the blunt answer if you can join us on the 29th.
Master of Devils Chat
Monday, August 29, 9:00 ET, 6:00 PT
To join the chat, point your browser to chat.dmtools.org, choose a screen name, and type /join PFTales.
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Thanael |
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Thanks for the answer Dave. I reread chapter 6 , but i still don't get it.
Will see if I can make the chat.
BTW Dave, i read on your facebook page that you're searching for a reasonably priced copy of Snake in Eagle's Shadow. I do hope you have at least seen the film, or did you really not? It's a great classic, and has been broadcast on TV here in Germany quite a few times.
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BTW Dave, i read on your facebook page that you're searching for a reasonably priced copy of Snake in Eagle's Shadow. I do hope you have at least seen the film, or did you really not? It's a great classic, and has been broadcast on TV here in Germany quite a few times.
No, I still haven't seen this movie, I've only read about it and viewed a few scenes. It's one of the remaining major gaps in my wuxia movie education.
If you don't catch me in the chat room Monday night, you can find me there on and off much of the time. Just shoot me a message, and I'll give you that straight answer, assuming no one else has done so before then.
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BTW Dave, i read on your facebook page that you're searching for a reasonably priced copy of Snake in Eagle's Shadow. I do hope you have at least seen the film, or did you really not? It's a great classic, and has been broadcast on TV here in Germany quite a few times.
Also, Flames Rising has posted five more of my kung fu movie recommendations. I'll resume my regular blog recommendations soon.
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Well I couldn't make it to the chat. Care to let the cat out of the bag, Dave?
The chat's still about six hours away. If you still can't make it, I'll respond under a spoiler-tag, but it's a BIG spoiler for those who haven't read the book. If you come to the chat room soon, you might catch me while I'm hanging out and eating my lunch for the next little while. Go to chat.dmtools.org and pick a username.
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So now for the nerdy part. I know i know it's a novel and doesn't have to 100% follow the PF rules, but indulge me....
** spoiler omitted **
Thus, once he's shed of the big devil body, and while he may have picked up a few things along the way, Radovan's not walking off with the power to perform those high-level monk abilities. They died with the big devil he was stuck inside.