They're working for a specific one. She's on the cover!I’m super curious about the outset of this AP, in terms of how the characters are actually employed. Are the Blood Lords formalized and centralized enough to have an organization of troubleshooters at their command, or are the PCs working for a specific one? Is there a government agency in Geb with adventurers on the roster?
Exciting!
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Will there be anything extra for those who pick an undead character for this or just what is noted in Book of the Undead (or might anything extra be in the Players Guide perhaps)?
Thanks
Tom
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Will there be anything extra for those who pick an undead character for this or just what is noted in Book of the Undead (or might anything extra be in the Players Guide perhaps)?
Thanks
Tom
One thing that was mentioned during Paizo con was that there are situations/encounters in this AP that vary depending on if there are undead PCs in the group. And vary both ways. Having undead PCs will make certain situations easier and certain situations harder.
Now, if by "extra" you meant things like new feats, I do recall them saying new Ghoul feats in the 4th book.
When do we see the real cover for this one?
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When do we see the real cover for this one?
The cover is complete and was used at PaizoCon so it will be updated when the webstore team has the opportunity. Thanks for your curiosity and enthusiasm.
Will there be anything extra for those who pick an undead character for this or just what is noted in Book of the Undead (or might anything extra be in the Players Guide perhaps)?
Thanks
Tom
One thing that was mentioned during Paizo con was that there are situations/encounters in this AP that vary depending on if there are undead PCs in the group. And vary both ways. Having undead PCs will make certain situations easier and certain situations harder.
Now, if by "extra" you meant things like new feats, I do recall them saying new Ghoul feats in the 4th book.
yep, I got a lot of that in the PaizoCon Discord when I asked it after a panel and the one and only James Jacobs replied with this :)
"Ron is the developer for that Adventure Path so he'll know for sure, but I did help write volume 4, and I made sure to include several encounters that play out slightly differently for quick or dead PCs. And in a few cases, different if there are, say, ghoul PCs. The end of the adventure itself doesn't require one to win, but some encounters will resolve different. Perhaps be more or less challenging."
LOVE this
Tom
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I'm not surprised.
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FYI, we are planning to post the Players Guide for this AP in late June. No particular date, yet.
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Back cover text:
Something Gnawing at You?
Dispatched to look into strange events at a farm tended by zombie workhands, the characters find a grave threat to the living population in the undead-dominated nation of Geb. Exposing the plot is the first step to influence and power, but if the investigators aren’t careful, it might be their last! The Blood Lords Adventure Path begins with “Zombie Feast,” a complete adventure for 1st- to 3rd-level characters.
There are no content warnings.
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Back cover text:
Something Gnawing at You?
Dispatched to look into strange events at a farm tended by zombie workhands, the characters find a grave threat to the living population in the undead-dominated nation of Geb. Exposing the plot is the first step to influence and power, but if the investigators aren’t careful, it might be their last! The Blood Lords Adventure Path begins with “Zombie Feast,” a complete adventure for 1st- to 3rd-level characters.
There are no content warnings inside.
Must be that players guide "gnawing in you" to get out ASAP Aaron if I had to bet :)
(now have 3 players and myself, just 2 more to go, but the hunt for a GM still continues on Roll20...)
Tom
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Must be that players guide "gnawing in you" to get out ASAP Aaron if I had to bet :)
(now have 3 players and myself, just 2 more to go, but the hunt for a GM still continues on Roll20...)
Tom
Haha! I'm good. I can see the team is working on it. Have a good weekend!
Will do bud, you as well!!
Tom :)
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This can’t really be the cover.
I believe the halfling is one of the Blood Lords, and your party’s employer. The Iconics appear to be fighting zombified farm animals, which tracks with this being a volume about a threat to Geb’s very important farms.
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While the blaise expressions on Sajan and Seltyiel are a little weird, I'm not sure how this is "amateur crap". You seem angry over nothing. Are you mad that there's a halfling?
The halfling's accouterment are quite macabre.
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"For this cover we want a monk disinterestedly roundhouse kicking a cow while his Magus friend is setting fire to another and looking like he would rather be doing ANYTHING else"
"I got you fam"
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That is a garbage cover. The bland grey backdrop looks like they colour matched the wallpaper in a dentist's waiting room. I was expecting more red, cos' of all the blood the PCs will be lording.
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That is a garbage cover. The bland grey backdrop looks like they colour matched the wallpaper in a dentist's waiting room. I was expecting more red, cos' of all the blood PCs will be lording.
If the AP doesn't end with Geb telling the PCs "Truly, in the end, it was WE who were the Blood Lords", I'm gonna flip a table.
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I just wanna make it clear that while I'm poking fun, I don't think there's anything wrong with the art itself.
Geb is a miserable, crappy drab place, and I doubt that you're going to be respectfully asked to go kill zombie livestock by your superiors here -- it's probably more like "You live in Geb, you have no rights, I'm a Blood Lord, go do this thing or I'll turn you into a zombie your life basically sucks now".
Considering that the campaign starts at lv.1 and dedications are obtained at lv.2, I wonder how players will get access to undead character options, specifically referring to the ghoul, mummy, vampire and zombie dedications.
Will players have to die in the middle of the first chapter to raise as undead, or will it be something like it's been done in SoT with the wizard/druid dedication taken at lv.1? In that second case , that would mean that undead character will have more character building options, right?
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On top of everything else that has been noted, the halfling is exactly the same as the halfling in one of the recent Frozen Flame covers. We are used by now to seeing such bad artwork inside Paizo books, but on the cover? Of Paizo’s flagship line no less?
Having thoroughly played and enjoyed Quest for the Frozen Flame, I don't remember any halflings on any of the covers. Did you mean the halfling iconic in the background of Frozen Flame #2 - Lost Mammoth Valley? Because that's just Ija.
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"it's probably more like "You live in Geb, you have no rights, I'm a Blood Lord, go do this thing or I'll turn you into a zombie your life basically sucks now".
They should have put that guy on the cover, he sounds awesome. :D
Also, where is new Iconic zombie character? The world needs an Iconic zombie character for PF2!
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I definitely preferred the darker, more sinister looking coloration of the placeholder cover, but it’s not like this art is horrendous or anything. Also, the font that “Blood Lords” is in looks a lot better than before.
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Yeah, I mean, the dynamism of the art isn't great, but the draftsmanship is perfectly fine, it's not like it's Actually amateur work, it's just a bit stiff. I really like the design of that halfling blood lord, very fun sunny-macabre, and I Really like the design of the AP title.
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That is a garbage cover. The bland grey backdrop looks like they colour matched the wallpaper in a dentist's waiting room. I was expecting more red, cos' of all the blood PCs will be lording.If the AP doesn't end with Geb telling the PCs "Truly, in the end, it was WE who were the Blood Lords", I'm gonna flip a table.
And then he morbs.
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To paraphrase James Jacobs "criticism is ok if you explain it, don't come here and start shouting, you're not gonna get any attention from them"
But yeah guys, this cover is...off. It has everything that makes a PF cover but it looks lacking, maybe because there's no texture on the gray part? Also, like people said it lacks movement and it appears that character proportions are different for Sajan and Seltyiel, otherwise the rest is looking real good.
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That is an odd cover. If the current image is the cover, the skull on the staff blocks a lot of the main picture. Also, she's all happy to be there, ya know...blood lords...zombie feast. Huge disconnect.
The art is good, it's just not the correct art.
The gray area needs some sort of texture.
I'll say that the covers of the last Starfinder AP (Horizons of the Vast) were so dark, it made them hard to really get the details.
Just my two cents.
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Yeah, I love how the halfling looks. Very cheery demeanor, and then you look closer and she has a necklace of severed fingers.
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I am kinda hoping this might be a tongue in cheek cover, "Come visit Geb, our peeps are quite happy and content, our live stock less so, but they don't count!!"
Then perhaps the next cover might juxtaposition into a more dark and "Blood Lords" those words conjure compared to this.
A bit surprised though no undead type characters were pictured though honestly myself. But maybe they don't want to undead the iconics perhaps.
Cover not expected but its fine
Tom
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The idea of book cover art you don't like being "the beginning of the end" for a company is very funny. The blocking for the fight in the background is rather stiff and awkward, but generally I don't show the book covers to my players anyway (maybe at the end of the book) so I don't particularly care. I'm more worried that the halfling doesn't look particularly evil, and I personally hope that the party is working for someone evil / at least the vast majority of Blood Lords are.
But evil comes in all forms, and the quality of the actual maps, NPC illustrations, etc. matters most to me!