Pathfinder Secrets of Magic

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Discover the untold potential of magic! Secrets of Magic, the newest hardcover rulebook for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game! Secrets of Magic brings the popular magus and summoner classes into Pathfinder Second Edition, unlocking heroes who combine magical might with martial prowess and offering command of a powerful magical companion creature. The lavishly illustrated, 256-page rulebook contains hundreds of new spells with potent offerings for all spellcasting character classes, magic items for any player character, and lore detailing the fundamental structure and theories of magic. A special section within the volume—the Book of Unlimited Magic—presents new methods of spellcasting, with elementalism, geomancy, shadow magic, rune magic, and even pervasive magic to give every place and creature in your game a magical spin!

Written by Logan Bonner, Mark Seifter, and Amirali Attar Olyaee, Kate Baker, Minty Belmont, Logan Bonner, James Case, Jessica Catalan, John Compton, Katina Davis, Jesse Decker, Chris Eng, Eleanor Ferron, Leo Glass, Joan Hong, Vanessa Hoskins, Jason Keeley, Joshua Kim, Luis Loza, Ron Lundeen, Liane Merciel, David N. Ross, Ianara Natividad, Chesley Oxendine, Stephen Radney‑MacFarland, Shiv Ramdas, Mikhail Rekun, Simone D. Sallé, Michael Sayre, Mark Seifter, Sen H.H.S., Shay Snow, Kendra Leigh Speedling, Tan Shao Han, Calliope Lee Taylor, Mari Tokuda, Jason Tondro, Clark Valentine, Ruvaid Virk, Andrew White, Landon Winkler, Tonya Woldridge, and Isis Wozniakowska

ISBN-13: 978-1-64078-345-4



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Delivers

5/5

Does what it says and does it very good.


Excellent Book

5/5

This is my favorite book released recently. Great lore sections on magic, lots of interesting spells and items. Both the Magus and the Summoner are great new classes that cover territory not previously explored.


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5/5

Great book! love the updates!


now with errata, but has large sections that are incompatable with the remaster

3/5


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GGSigmar wrote:
Laclale♪ wrote:
Ezekieru wrote:
early August releases to subscribers
So we can hear about more inside like Truename and Harrower
I don't think there is anything about Harrower in this book.

But Lantondo is harrower


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And is an NPC in an adventure path, not a piece of content in Secrets of Magic.


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I don't know who exactly Lantondo is, but it's important to note that in 2e NPCs aren't built like players, and may have something where you'd expect a class, that is instead just meant as a guide for the types of things they are good at. For example, a mayor may just say "level 5 mayor" or a guard may be listed as level 6 protector.

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The words "Lantondo"and "harrower" do not appear in Secrets of Magic. The word harrow does.

Sczarni

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Aaron Shanks wrote:
The words "Lantondo"and "harrower" do not appear in Secrets of Magic. The word harrow does.

Ohhh.. Anti-spoilers...


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I wonder/hope with the shadow magic and new magic items that we get the Shadowstaff Artifact.

It's one of my favorites and would really love to see it in 2E.

Anyone else have any themed items or artifacts that could potentially appear in this book?


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Verzen wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
The words "Lantondo"and "harrower" do not appear in Secrets of Magic. The word harrow does.
Ohhh.. Anti-spoilers...

I got some of those! For example:

The location of the planet Kamino does not appear in the book.


Will shipping/authorization notices be coming out soon or is this still in the shipping lanes?


Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Will shipping/authorization notices be coming out soon or is this still in the shipping lanes?

Shipping/authorizations just ended for the August 4th products. It'll probably be another week before authorizations begin for the August 25th products.


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Verzen wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
The words "Lantondo"and "harrower" do not appear in Secrets of Magic. The word harrow does.
Ohhh.. Anti-spoilers...

The term "harrow" is in this book but "harrower" isn't -- those are big clues to me....


Ezekieru wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Will shipping/authorization notices be coming out soon or is this still in the shipping lanes?
Shipping/authorizations just ended for the August 4th products. It'll probably be another week before authorizations begin for the August 25th products.

Do subscribers get the pdf when shipping authorization starts? not sure how that works.

Silver Crusade

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Svyatoslov wrote:
Ezekieru wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Will shipping/authorization notices be coming out soon or is this still in the shipping lanes?
Shipping/authorizations just ended for the August 4th products. It'll probably be another week before authorizations begin for the August 25th products.
Do subscribers get the pdf when shipping authorization starts? not sure how that works.

If you're subscribed you get access to the PDF when your order ships and you're actually charged for the order ^w^


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WatersLethe wrote:
Verzen wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
The words "Lantondo"and "harrower" do not appear in Secrets of Magic. The word harrow does.
Ohhh.. Anti-spoilers...

I got some of those! For example:

The location of the planet Kamino does not appear in the book.

Impossible! Perhaps the archives are incomplete?


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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Is there any new news on release schedule? My players and me are relay excited for this book. I understand if there are delays and all. But waiting with no news has me on the edge of my seat. I find my self checking this form and the customer service pages at least once an hour . :p

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Knighttrap wrote:
Is there any new news on release schedule? My players and me are relay excited for this book. I understand if there are delays and all. But waiting with no news has me on the edge of my seat. I find my self checking this form and the customer service pages at least once an hour . :p

When we have something to announce regrind the August 25 release date we will do so in the Customer Service Forum. We just had the Aug 4 release date, rolled from late July. Thank you for your enthusiasm. Please let the process proceed.


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Thank you Aaron for always taking the time to keep us up to date on this. We greatly appreciate you.

Also inregards to Secrets of Magic, is anyone else feeling your inner Winifred Sanderson come out?

Boooooook!!!!

Hello, I want my book.
Bonjour, je veux mon livre.

https://youtu.be/1xIN3QcYjWs


Just noticed that it is no longer possible to preorder any physical version of this book. Will it be possible to order it after it launches on aug 25th?


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antonionh wrote:
Just noticed that it is no longer possible to preorder any physical version of this book. Will it be possible to order it after it launches on aug 25th?

After it launches, almost definitely. I think the pro-order is currently disabled because of an uncertain launch window due to potential delays. Malevolence and Ruby Phoenix were also like this when they got delayed due to shipping problems.


We're getting to close to the date where they start processing orders for this that it will stop being a "preorder" and just be an order.

There is nothing at the moment to say this will be delayed, but every day that they don't start shipping them out makes it more likely.

Wayfinders

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This is the reply that Aaron Shanks gave in the Tech Revolution thread, which is in a similar situation.


Hey I have the sub and I just noticed this is no longer in my upcoming shipments. Should I be concerned?


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HitoshuraRob wrote:
Hey I have the sub and I just noticed this is no longer in my upcoming shipments. Should I be concerned?

No. Your order is still there, it's just in order limbo as we approach the order production date.


I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.


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John Ryan 783 wrote:
I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.

My assumption is that they will create and sticky an August thread when they have something to tell us about it.


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David knott 242 wrote:
John Ryan 783 wrote:
I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.

My assumption is that they will create and sticky an August thread when they have something to tell us about it.

Thank you very much. Honestly this whole situation has been stressing me out. Honestly maybe it is a statement to my own financial situation, but the stress of the two week window of when the subscription costs hits is already bad. This new situation is making it worse.

I don't know, maybe I need to be responsible and just cancel all my subscriptions if I can't afford the stress of when payments are going to be removed.


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John Ryan 783 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
John Ryan 783 wrote:
I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.

My assumption is that they will create and sticky an August thread when they have something to tell us about it.

Thank you very much. Honestly this whole situation has been stressing me out. Honestly maybe it is a statement to my own financial situation, but the stress of the two week window of when the subscription costs hits is already bad. This new situation is making it worse.

I don't know, maybe I need to be responsible and just cancel all my subscriptions if I can't afford the stress of when payments are going to be removed.

Nothing useful to say other than, I'm sorry, I've been in that situation myself, and it sucks. Wish this wasn't happening to you.


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John Ryan 783 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
John Ryan 783 wrote:
I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.

My assumption is that they will create and sticky an August thread when they have something to tell us about it.

Thank you very much. Honestly this whole situation has been stressing me out. Honestly maybe it is a statement to my own financial situation, but the stress of the two week window of when the subscription costs hits is already bad. This new situation is making it worse.

I don't know, maybe I need to be responsible and just cancel all my subscriptions if I can't afford the stress of when payments are going to be removed.

I hate to say it but yeah, if the timing of the money going out of the account means issues for you, that implies there were other things you couldn't pay for if they came out on time (because in the end your entertainment budget is the same, whether its 50 dollars each in two separate months, or 100 dollars at once a month later-- you would have had to have the 100 dollars to spend to begin with that you don't need to spend on other things, from not spending it on the books in the original month they were supposed to come out.)

I hope times get better for you, I know how rough that kind of situation can feel, even if its just the stress of a larger number leaving the account and showing you what you're spending, as opposed to the timing influencing whether you can 'afford' it.


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The-Magic-Sword wrote:

I hate to say it but yeah, if the timing of the money going out of the account means issues for you, that implies there were other things you couldn't pay for if they came out on time (because in the end your entertainment budget is the same, whether its 50 dollars each in two separate months, or 100 dollars at once a month later-- you would have had to have the 100 dollars to spend to begin with that you don't need to spend on other things, from not spending it on the books in the original month they were supposed to come out.)

I hope times get better for you, I know how rough that kind of situation can feel, even if its just the stress of a larger number leaving the account and showing you what you're spending, as opposed to the timing influencing whether you can 'afford' it.

Sometimes money is just moving in and out of an account a lot as you shuffle around finances or try to manage expenses and payments.

Part of the stress just comes from the potential inconsistency, because who knows what the account might look like next week at any given moment and it only takes one minor screw-up for a bank to start sending you into a financial death spiral of fees and penalties.

I get why Paizo does things the way they do, but sometimes I wish companies that worked this way just had an option somewhere to pay immediately, just so the consumer could have a little more control over when the charge is sent out.


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John Ryan 783 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:
John Ryan 783 wrote:
I see a lot of mention of the Customer Service thread being updated for products? Which thread is that? We don't have an August thread or a Secrets of Magic thread there that I can find.

My assumption is that they will create and sticky an August thread when they have something to tell us about it.

Thank you very much. Honestly this whole situation has been stressing me out. Honestly maybe it is a statement to my own financial situation, but the stress of the two week window of when the subscription costs hits is already bad. This new situation is making it worse.

I don't know, maybe I need to be responsible and just cancel all my subscriptions if I can't afford the stress of when payments are going to be removed.

One thing I do is I buy the certificates every month to add money to my Paizo account. That say I dont worry about the money coming out of my account. I put a set amount in every month, even if Im only getting one Ap book, that way I build up a little surplus, in case a time comes when I have a real emergency i can skip putting some in for a month.

If that is an option you can try that.


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August release schedule thread us up they said not all products are in the warehouse don't know if Secret of Magic is one of them but we should not if there are any changes to release on Thursdays.

August new release thread..


Creative Burst wrote:

August release schedule thread us up they said not all products are in the warehouse don't know if Secret of Magic is one of them but we should not if there are any changes to release on Thursdays.

August new release thread..

Thanks!

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I'll have Pathfinder Lead Designer Logan Bonner as one of my 7 guests on Paizo LIVE this Friday from 4 to 6 PM Pacific. He will speak for more than 20 minutes on Pathfinder Secrets of Magic. twitch.tv/officialpaizo


Hyped for the show!


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
I'll have Pathfinder Lead Designer Logan Bonner as one of my 7 guests on Paizo LIVE this Friday from 4 to 6 PM Pacific. He will speak for more than 20 minutes on Pathfinder Secrets of Magic. (URL Linkfied by Laclale)

Silver Crusade

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Laclale♪ wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
I'll have Pathfinder Lead Designer Logan Bonner as one of my 7 guests on Paizo LIVE this Friday from 4 to 6 PM Pacific. He will speak for more than 20 minutes on Pathfinder Secrets of Magic. (URL Linkfied by Laclale)

Thankies, Link tweaked for those who might have had an issue :3


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So excited for this book!


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

so HYPE.


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Guess waiting till monday for subscriptions to start running.


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I haven't got an e-mail, but the Thread also hasn't updated yet. Hopefully we will hear something soon.

Silver Crusade

Well it's not end-of-day for them, yet, either, so we may still get an update. That or they might be waiting to say something on the stream tonight.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

They have moved the order creation to Monday now.


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In the meantime, here's all the spoilers I've written down from tonight's Paizo LIVE stream. Good stuff all around!

Dark Archive

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All these moves are starting to feel like teasing. But I'm glad they confirmed that SoM street date is still the 25th. Today is a bitter sweet day.


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I just hate when my subscription ships after the street date. It's not part of my subscription to get the pdf early (though it's obviously exciting), but it really sucks to know it almost would be more satisfying to not subscribe. I want this physical book, and mostly that makes the subscription worthwhile, but it will be feelbad to have my subscription ship on the 25th or later.

Dark Archive

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vagrant-poet wrote:
I just hate when my subscription ships after the street date. It's not part of my subscription to get the pdf early (though it's obviously exciting), but it really sucks to know it almost would be more satisfying to not subscribe. I want this physical book, and mostly that makes the subscription worthwhile, but it will be feelbad to have my subscription ship on the 25th or later.

This exactly. I already struggle with the idea of having my subscription because I'm not supporting my local gaming store by having it (who always has the books available on the street date). Even the free PDF isn't a huge value as the shipping cost is almost the price of the PDF.

I'm not complaining or trying to put down the subscription, but I've already been questioning it and weighing the pros and cons for me personally.


It should be noted the shipping estimate have not changed.

Silver Crusade

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Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Yeah, the shipping estimate is still the same, they're just going to tighten the gap between order spawning and shipment starting. They're doing their best with the global shipping nonsense to make sure everything gets out on time, and they're still waiting on one of the ~minor~ releases of the month to make sure they can try to get that out on time too.

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Cori Marie wrote:
Yeah, the shipping estimate is still the same, they're just going to tighten the gap between order spawning and shipment starting. They're doing their best with the global shipping nonsense to make sure everything gets out on time, and they're still waiting on one of the ~minor~ releases of the month to make sure they can try to get that out on time too.

Thank you for clarifying. Yes.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Were books being shipped and pdfs released today for subscribers or is that all going to take place on or about August 25th? I'm a new subscriber and not sure how that works.


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mattdusty wrote:
Were books being shipped and pdfs released today for subscribers or is that all going to take place on or about August 25th? I'm a new subscriber and not sure how that works.

Normally books ship out 1-2 weeks before Street Date, with subscribers receiving their PDF when their book ships. With all of the shipping problems in the world right now, time tables are a bit screwy. We should hear from them today on what the plans are, but the last time table we received was:

•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: Thursday, August 12th Friday, August 13th [Note; this has not started yet. Hopefully will start today]

•Begin Shipping Estimate: Monday, August 16th
•End Shipping Estimate: Wednesday, August 25th
[Note; Subscribers would get their PDF somewhere in this window]

•Street Date for Paizo Products: Wednesday, August 25th

You can follow the updates in the customer service section of the forums. Specifically Here

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