The Raven Black |
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The most recent 1star reviews are most definitely nerdrage at its worst. Just check the posters' profile and see for yourself. Regrettably these fake reviews also pretty insulting to other reviewers BTW lower this product's rating. I did not imagine people stooping so low. I think these "reviews" should actually be discounted in the rating, or even taken down if the former is not possible.
Not only do they unfairly lower a product's rating and thereby its potential sales, they also devalue the work of honest reviewers on all products.
I propose that a flag system should be available for reviews similar to the one for posts
Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
The most recent 1star reviews are most definitely nerdrage at its worst. Just check the posters' profile and see for yourself. Regrettably these fake reviews also pretty insulting to other reviewers BTW lower this product's rating. I did not imagine people stooping so low. I think these "reviews" should actually be discounted in the rating, or even taken down if the former is not possible.
Not only do they unfairly lower a product's rating and thereby its potential sales, they also devalue the work of honest reviewers on all products.
I propose that a flag system should be available for reviews similar to the one for posts
We don't currently have an ETA for when a flagging system for reviews will be available. In the meantime, please report these to community@paizo.com for us to look over.
Porridge |
I don't have any stance on the merits/demerits of this product.
But regarding reviews, Chris Lambertz has said that getting a flagging system for reviews is on the website "to do" list. In the meantime, if you find that a review violates the Community Guidelines, you can report it by sending an email to:
community@paizo.com
So if you think one of the posted reviews violates these guidelines, I'd recommend sending an email with the relevant information regarding the review. I'm a strong proponent of reporting community guideline violations, so to make it extra easy for you, here's a copy of the form letter I use to notify Paizo of inappropriate reviews:
"Dear moderators,
Following Chris Lambertz's suggestion regarding inappropriate reviews:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1f9?Ability-to-flag-reviews#2
I'm emailing you to note that the review by {PERSON X}, of {PRODUCT Y}, seems to violate the community guidelines.
Here is the offending part of the review:
{QUOTE}
Here is a link to the review:
{LINK}
Regards,
{YOURNAME}"
Hope that helps!
__________
EDIT: Ninja'd by Chris Lambertz himself!
Chris Lambertz Community & Digital Content Director |
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For folks asking about the removed reviews, we assume that our customers review products based on their own personal experiences with a given product. In this case, there were very serious doubts about the legitimacy and intention behind the series of reviews that were removed, which we will not divulge publicly out of respect for customer privacy.
Malwing |
Review is up, you can find it and more over on my blog.
After seeing the responses in the thread I'm curious as to what the negative reviews said. I had some criticisms but they did not contribute to a lower review score because;
1. Being similar but better than a Rogue is not hard.
2. One ability needing some research if not possible clarification is not exactly grounds to damn a whole class or nothing Paizo has printed would be worth dealing with.
3. Not being a clever new system of casting or magic resolution is somewhat of a strength for the product.
4. The rest of the abilities being rather limited makes up for the wizard/Sorcerer list being strong, but I admit that it certainly could have been fine having the Magus list.
Wolfgang Baur Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Press; RPG Superstar Judge |
Insain Dragoon |
Long story short for the negative reviews
Too many skills
Too good spells
Too much damage
Rogue Invalidated
Magus Invalidated
I wont go into commentary on intent, those are just what I remember as content.
My review was either a 4 or 5 and I stated importantant information in a disclaimer up top, like that I hadn't used a Trickster in game at the time of review.
Insain Dragoon |
On the Trickster though, what's everyone's opinion on the Acrobat Forte? It seems like I'm the only one who singled it out as the least effective choice for Forte since most of its benefits can be attained through a Mithril Chain shirt and the AC bonus comes in too late in the game to be effective vs appropriate CR.
Oceanshieldwolf |
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Probably the best review that I've seen, The Raven Black (including the removed ones), especially on the design decisions re: Fortes vs. archetypes and the relative merits of each Forte. I found the commentary on Prestige-ing into Arcane Tickster interesting also - it had not occurred to me that that could even be an option. Kudos!
Marc Radle |
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Thank you for the review Raven Black! Extremely well-reasoned and considered indeed! Very happy to see you liked the class
You bring up some interesting points that are certainly worth considering. In fact, I'm about to start playing in a new campaign (Hell's Rebels) - I think I might make a few tweaks to the class and then playtest them in this new campaign to see how they work out ...
Stay tuned!
Marc Radle |
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Hey everyone! An updated New Paths 8: The Trickster has just been distributed to all the normal channels.
Main updates include:
- Skill Ranks per Level reduced to 4 + Int modifier
- Added a sidebar called "Trickster Spells and Balance" which offers a lower-power variant to the standard trickster spellcasting class feature
- Added a new forte (Shadow)
- Beefed up the Acrobat forte (added more magic abilities and synergies)
- Added an archetype: Dual-Forte Trickster
Iceman1077 |
Really like the new update, especially the shadow forte (needs the ability to move stealthily at full speed though). I would love to see a sniping forte.
As for the Improved Forte ability of the Dual-Forte Trickster, I really wish those abilities had been included as part of the original Fortes. That way the new ability that helps set the Trickster apart would scale thru the entire class, and not end halfway thru the class.
Marc Radle |
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Reposted from a different thread, but relevant here as well :)
Ok, here's my take on the Revised Trickster. I even edited my original review with the following text.
The Trickster (Revised)
Ok, at first glance I didn't care for it that much (but I was on painkillers for a bad knee at the moment). I've had a chance to read it over again and I like pretty much everything they've done, with the exception of cutting back Skill Points to 4 per level. I love Skills and having my players use them, so I'll probably house rule it that they still get 6. The new Shadow Forte is a good addition, and the Dual Forte Archetype is a nice addition.
Changing the magic schools to exclude Evocation and Necromancy is something I'm on the fence about. I personally think the Trickster should be able to choose which two schools he excludes himself, but it's a minor quibble and one I'm sure won't be shared by everyone who uses the revised version.
Overall I like the revisions, and it may be the one I offer any players who might like to give the class a try. And like I said, I like skilly characters, so I may keep the 6 per level option from the original version. Good job Marc and Kobold Press!
Hey there DungeonmasterCal, thanks for the comments on the revised Trickster - glad you liked it! :)
Personally, I'm with you regarding the skill points, but I decided that enough people felt 4 skill points per level was more appropriate that I decided to acquiesce, knowing that houseruling back up to 6 skill points per level is super simple if so desired.
Really glad you liked the new Shadow Forte and Dual Forte Archetype! I'm really happy with how both turned out!
Regarding the sidebar detailing the exclusion of the Evocation and Necromancy schools from the Trickster's spell list, keep in mind that's a variant only. The core class still gets access to all the schools, I just wanted to respect and acknowledge those folks who were uncomfortable with the Trickster having the full wizard spell list, so I offered this lower-power variant.
Again, really glad you like the revisions!
Endzeitgeist |
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Revised my review in all the usual places. Feel like a prick for it, but there you go. As a person, I like it less now than before, with the dual forte archetype being imho utterly broken. :/ Didn't penalize it further due to the GREAT revision of the Acrobatics forte and the fact that the update is free. So sorry I couldn't upgrade this to +seal status...I really hoped I could. :(
Wolfgang Baur Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Press; RPG Superstar Judge |
Marc Radle |
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Hey everyone!
A number of folks felt that the archetype should really have been two separate archetypes, and after much consideration, I decided I agreed. So, we have released one final revision to the Trickster today that does exactly that!
Changes:
- Archetype was split in to two separate (and mutually exclusive) archetypes: Dual-Forte Trickster and Forte Master Trickster
- Shadow forte made a bit more interesting, flavorful and unique - shadow trickster can now animate and flank with his own shadow!
Hope everyone like it!
Oh, be on the lookout for a NEW New Paths class very soon ... it's sure to be divinely awesome ... :)
Wolfgang Baur Kobold Press |
Marc Radle |
Oh, be on the lookout for a NEW New Paths class very soon ... it's sure to be divinely awesome ... :)
Well, that be divinely awesome class I hinted at ... it's out sooner than I anticipated!
I'd like to present the just released New Paths 9: The Priest from Kobold Press!
Features things like:
- Access to more domains and the ability to cast more than one domain spell
- Full divine (cleric/oracle) spell casting using a unique casting mechanic
- More domains and can cast either 1 or 2 bonus domain spells per
- Divine Gift class ability which allows the priest to perform various divine acts at a moments notice
- Improved Channeling
- Sacred Bond
- New feats (including Powerful Channel)
- A new archetype: Chosen of Nature
- ... and more
Please check it out! :)