Joana |
can't download at work, anyone give a quick recap of the innards?
Coming Together: advice on how the PCs start the adventure
Character Tips: suggested classes, archetypes, bloodlines, mysteries, familiars, animal companions, favored enemies and terrains, origins, races, religions, skills, feats, and traitsCampaign Traits: Artifact Hunter, Dragonfoe, Dwarf-Trained, Giant-Blooded, Giantslayer Scion, Orphaned by Giants, Roll With It, Student of Giantkind, Truneau Native, Vexing Defender
Truneau Gazetteer: history, daily life, map, major NPCs
Environmental Considerations: modifiers for hill and mountain terrain and rules for travel through them
Faelyn |
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I think every martial will be Giant-Blooded given some many people's fascination with oversized weapons. Couple that trait with Titan Fighter and you can wield over-sized polearm with only -3 to hit.
I really enjoyed this Guide, it took all the information from Towns of the Inner Seas presented on Trunau and put it into the Guide. This allows folks to use the guide to make a character from Tranau without having to access a bunch of other sources.
Adam Daigle Developer |
Set |
Campaign Traits: Artifact Hunter, Dragonfoe, Dwarf-Trained, Giant-Blooded, Giantslayer Scion, Orphaned by Giants, Roll With It, Student of Giantkind, Truneau Native, Vexing Defender
There are some sexy traits here, particularly for melee characters (less so for spellcasters). For a crit-meister, Orphaned by Giants could be fun.
magnuskn |
Oh, already.
It might be that I am going with a bit low expectations into this AP. Not because I think the writing will be poor, but because I think that it will be a tad too easy for players. AP's with a designated enemy almost always are, since the players can prepare so easily for them. Bane weapons exist and make a big difference.
Adam Daigle Developer |
I'm told that Mikaze was a writer for the Belkzen book, and that he was contributing a good-aligned orc tribe. Is it possible to play as members of that tribe in Giantslayer?
If the GM and players were down for that I could see it working with a few small changes, but the AP isn't written assuming the PCs are orcs.
Alex G St-Amand |
Oh, already.
It might be that I am going with a bit low expectations into this AP. Not because I think the writing will be poor, but because I think that it will be a tad too easy for players. AP's with a designated enemy almost always are, since the players can prepare so easily for them. Bane weapons exist and make a big difference.
APs are made with the assumptions of: 4 PCs built with 15 PB each, players won't meta, PCs don't buy what they want, but what is available, etc...
Icaste Fyrbawl |
But bane weapons are for martials, and everybody knows that The Only True Way Of Playing Pathfinder By Remotely Intelligent Beings is with a party of Cleric/Druid/Wizard/Arcanist... ;-P
I'm pretty sure I'd sell a body part to play in that party. I'm so tired of being the only one willing to play a career in my group. Hopefully I can get some martial joy out of running this campaign and the lack of caster will show itself.
magnuskn |
magnuskn wrote:APs are made with the assumptions of: 4 PCs built with 15 PB each, players won't meta, PCs don't buy what they want, but what is available, etc...Oh, already.
It might be that I am going with a bit low expectations into this AP. Not because I think the writing will be poor, but because I think that it will be a tad too easy for players. AP's with a designated enemy almost always are, since the players can prepare so easily for them. Bane weapons exist and make a big difference.
Crafting is an official part of the rules and Golarion (Golemworks, etc). Player characters are normally exceptional people, some with exceptional intelligence and wisdom. You really want to tell me that it would be "meta" of them to get giant-bane weapons when it becomes clear that they are constantly facing that kind of enemy?
Alex G St-Amand |
Alex G St-Amand wrote:Crafting is an official part of the rules and Golarion (Golemworks, etc). Player characters are normally exceptional people, some with exceptional intelligence and wisdom. You really want to tell me that it would be "meta" of them to get giant-bane weapons when it becomes clear that they are constantly facing that kind of enemy?magnuskn wrote:APs are made with the assumptions of: 4 PCs built with 15 PB each, players won't meta, PCs don't buy what they want, but what is available, etc...Oh, already.
It might be that I am going with a bit low expectations into this AP. Not because I think the writing will be poor, but because I think that it will be a tad too easy for players. AP's with a designated enemy almost always are, since the players can prepare so easily for them. Bane weapons exist and make a big difference.
Crafting takes time. Yes, PCs are exceptional, but they still have limits.
Writers can't think of everything players can come up with (even if they did, pages/words count would prevent them for writting counters to all of them).
Also, APs' assumptions don't take MIN-MAXing into consideration, nor are they made with house rules in mind.
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |
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Which buildings are considered downhill from 15?
That elf on 14 has REALLY long legs
Are Halgra's children (both in number and race aside from two with half-orc fathers) intentionally undefined for PC use or are they in the AP?
Almost all of them North (I.E. higher on the page) of the place. Why do you think so many townsfolk put up a fuss about it?
It's a half-elf (You can tell from the eyes), and yes, yes, they do.
To my knowledge, the only one of Halgra's children to ever be named is Oloch, the Iconic Warpriest. I know none of them are named in Towns of the Inner Sea & it doesn't look as though any more mention is made of them in the Player's Guide than in the Trunau article in TotIS. Of course, you pretty much have to take the Trunau Native Campaign Triait, but if you were thinking of playing one of her brood, you were probably going that route anyhow. The more I think of it, the more I like the idea of an 'all Halgra's spawn' party...
Now how do I make that happen?..
edit: Also, Damnit Paizo! here you go making another hot 1/2 Orc woman & then you go & have her be in a happy, committed relationship! Now I gotta go mack on that brawler from the back cover of Bastards of Golarion again...
Mikaze |
edit: Also, Damnit Paizo! here you go making another hot 1/2 Orc woman & then you go & have her be in a happy, committed relationship! Now I gotta go mack on that brawler from the back cover of Bastards of Golarion again...
There is still the possibility of the poly option! (currently reading Tanya Huff's The Fire's Stone, so OT3's are on the mind)
Definitely empathize though. Sara Morninghawk pretty much ticks a lot of boxes I like, and not only is she married but the PC I have planned for this AP is already in a committed relationship. And also gay. C'est la vie. :)
(like the other awesome half-orc NPC you're likely referring to, I actually do like her marriage and would hate to change that. Although unlike that other one, I probably would be open to portraying Sara and Agrit as potentially poly for interested/frustrated players. Paying it forward and glancing over at Azaz Arafe and Idorii here.)
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal |
Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:edit: Also, Damnit Paizo! here you go making another hot 1/2 Orc woman & then you go & have her be in a happy, committed relationship! Now I gotta go mack on that brawler from the back cover of Bastards of Golarion again...There is still the possibility of the poly option! (currently reading Tanya Huff's The Fire's Stone, so OT3's are on the mind
Fun fact, I almost made a friend of mine snorfle her beer last Tuesday at Irish dance class. Another mutual friend of ours explained to yet a third friend that she (the second friend) practiced Polyamory, at which the first friend commented "She likes a girl named Polly." Which immediately prompted me to reply, "& a girl named Marie."
<thread derail off>Bellona |
edit: Also, Damnit Paizo! here you go making another hot 1/2 Orc woman & then you go & have her be in a happy, committed relationship! Now I gotta go mack on that brawler from the back cover of Bastards of Golarion again...
There is still the possibility of the poly option! (currently reading Tanya Huff's The Fire's Stone, so OT3's are on the mind)
Definitely empathize though. Sara Morninghawk pretty much ticks a lot of boxes I like, and not only is she married but the PC I have planned for this AP is already in a committed relationship. And also gay. C'est la vie. :)
(like the other awesome half-orc NPC you're likely referring to, I actually do like her marriage and would hate to change that. Although unlike that other one, I probably would be open to portraying Sara and Agrit as potentially poly for interested/frustrated players.
Paying it forward and glancing over at Azaz Arafe and Idorii here.)
Actually, I believe that the one on the back cover of Bastards of Golarion (who is also on p. 10 of that product) so far is both nameless and "backstory-less", so she could easily not be married. :)