James Sutter Contributor |
The news that something is in the works on the lashunta is definitely going to stir up psionics fans. :)
Good point! Lest I risk unduly disappointing folks, let me state right now that the reference to the lashunta showing up somewhere soon is NOT a reference to a scheduled psionics product. Seriously. I know we've got ideas about what we want to do regarding psionics, but it's not something we're ready to tackle just yet. In the meantime, I've heard great things about some of the third-party folks doing Pathfinder-compatible psionics work...
Scott Andrews |
Mikaze wrote:Good point! Lest I risk unduly disappointing folks, let me state right now that the reference to the lashunta showing up somewhere soon is NOT a reference to a scheduled psionics product. Seriously. I know we've got ideas about what we want to do regarding psionics, but it's not something we're ready to tackle just yet. In the meantime, I've heard great things about some of the third-party folks doing Pathfinder-compatible psionics work...
The news that something is in the works on the lashunta is definitely going to stir up psionics fans. :)
Can you tell us anything about the upcoming product?
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
James Sutter Contributor |
James Sutter wrote:Can you tell us anything about the upcoming product?Mikaze wrote:Good point! Lest I risk unduly disappointing folks, let me state right now that the reference to the lashunta showing up somewhere soon is NOT a reference to a scheduled psionics product. Seriously. I know we've got ideas about what we want to do regarding psionics, but it's not something we're ready to tackle just yet. In the meantime, I've heard great things about some of the third-party folks doing Pathfinder-compatible psionics work...
The news that something is in the works on the lashunta is definitely going to stir up psionics fans. :)
Not until it's solicited, unfortunately. And I don't want people to get too worked up about it yet--while stats for the lashunta are coming, it's as part of something mostly unrelated to the solar system. For the time being, Distant Worlds is by far the most outer-space-friendly book we've got, so please spread the word. If you want to see more, let us know. :)
Scott Andrews |
Scott Andrews wrote:Not until it's solicited, unfortunately. And I don't want people to get too worked up about it yet--while stats for the lashunta are coming, it's as part of something mostly unrelated to the solar system. For the time being, Distant Worlds is by far the most outer-space-friendly book we've got, so please spread the word. If you want to see more, let us know. :)James Sutter wrote:Can you tell us anything about the upcoming product?Mikaze wrote:Good point! Lest I risk unduly disappointing folks, let me state right now that the reference to the lashunta showing up somewhere soon is NOT a reference to a scheduled psionics product. Seriously. I know we've got ideas about what we want to do regarding psionics, but it's not something we're ready to tackle just yet. In the meantime, I've heard great things about some of the third-party folks doing Pathfinder-compatible psionics work...
The news that something is in the works on the lashunta is definitely going to stir up psionics fans. :)
I would Love to see alot more. Be it modules, APs, or player companions, anything expanding this area of the game would be much appreciated.
Mikaze |
still waitan on shipment
gettin the shakes
It turns out it was sitting by my door when I posted.
Looks hot. Gonna be reading this thoroughly, but at a glance:
Space Merisiel is awesomely retro.
Want that foreground alien in the lower left corner of pg. 4's art as a cohort, animal companion, or familiar badly.
The lashunta's headgear is appropriately crazy and Frazetta/Vallejo-y.
The Augmented look really cool.
Sarcesians and Desna probably go together really well on aesthetics alone.
Brethedans look like they're going to be a lot of fun. Really have to try not to voice them like hanar.
Generic Villain |
I have a few questions - some rule-related, some not.
-Regarding the spell "planetary adaptation," does casting it protect you against every hostile environment on the Material Plane? Or do you need to choose a specific planet (Verces, Aucturn, the void, etc.) to protect againt?
-The starsoul bloodline for sorcerers grants an ability at 15th level called "breaching the gulf" that sends a target into outer space. Though it doesn't expressely say so, is it safe to assume that the target of this ability can't talk, use spells with verbal components, etc.?
-There's suggestions about how spells from the teleport and scrying subschool are unable to work between different planets as if they were different planes. What about similar long-range spells like sending, dream, demand, nightmare, etc.? Should those spells be similarly impeded?
-As far as I can tell, Aucturn has some kind of field around it that makes it appear different every time its observed. Am I right about this?
-Speaking of Aucturn, how is it that humans live there, what with the poisonous atmosphere and the warping effects? Are those living in the Citadel of the Black protected from these ultimately deadly effects?
Thanks for any help!
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Devoured this PDF. Completely unrelated to this book, Eox (and a former Dire Gambler's Club guy trapped there due to an unlucky Void draw from the Deck of Many Things) came up in my Saturday game the day before the download was available. Now I have a bit more information to tease them with if they follow up on that hook. Bone Sages look bad.
Dragonkin are cool, as are the other aliens. The entire book is just so full of awesome, I can't really focus on one part. I feel sorry for those people who were unable to utilize the awesome simply due to a lack of Lashunta stats.
This is stellar work.
Generic Villain |
Two more minor issues: first, in the "Aliens" chapter, cerebric fungi are noted as being common on Catrovel and Nchak. However, in their two past appearances in PF products (first in a PFS Scenario, and later in an Adventure Path), they are said to come from Aucturn. Was this just an oversight or a retcon?
Also, plasma oozes live on the sun, yet have no protection against fire whatsoever. I'm guessing they were meant to have the fire subtype (and this will hopefully be fixed in later printings), but as written in the Bestiary III, they'd be vaporized in seconds.
Mikaze |
Bouncing around the book.
Absolutely in love with Verces now. Awesome planet to play around with.
Love the biome setup. Really makes for some wonderful alien skies to describe. I think I'm going to add a moon or two just to get a little on Darkside. May be able to play with some arctic-flavored Pitch Black-ish scenarios that way too.
Love the Vercites. Love their caste system. This culture looks like its going to be a lot of fun. They way they view other races along caste lines is going to make for some neat interactions with offworld PCs. Heck, just the cosmopolitan nature of their civilization is a wonderful change of pace. Imagining their cities as a bit of a hybrid between Coruscant and Citadel Station, as far as aesthetics, but surrounded by actual green. Great big pastoral fields with silvery steel roads and rails running over or through them, joining all these towering cities together in a ring-spanning network. Replacing "pastoral fields" with "seas", "tundra", and "jungles" where appropriate...
Love the meshing of all types of magic with technology. Just the simple phrase "divination scans" really gets the imagination moving. I really like that this civilization didn't go along the expected "magic/tradition vs technology/advancement" route but rather went with a fusion. This is going to be a very fun culture to explore. Love the range between them having a rocking space program and sprawling metallic cities and simple Golarion-tech-level farms.
Thinking the hoarbats could be reskinned cloakers with a bleeding Con-drain attack. Can't help but visualize them as having hollow "teeth" lining the underside of their bodies and wings. The bloodbrothers are horrifying by the way.
So far it seems if one wanted to do a straight-up planet vs. planet campaign, Verces/Diaspora vs Eox would be the most natural fit.
As far as I'm concerned, the Aethership captain art sets the fashion baseline for most Vercites in the Ring. I bet they have hoverbikes. Totally putting hoverbikes on my Verces.
Man, I just really love this planet.
This book is really reminding me of the original campaign setting book in a lot of ways. These worlds are brand new, and there's so much space to play with, and there aren't many limits on what absolutely does not exist according to canon. Really enjoy getting that feel from setting books like this.
James Sutter Contributor |
In answer to folks' questions:
*The Planetary Adaptation spell indeed requires you to choose a given planet (or "void" if you just want it to apply to open space).
*Regardless of how you got there, if you don't have the appropriate precautions in place, you can't speak or breath in hard vacuum. That means no verbal components.
*Which spells are capable of bridging the gap between planets is left up to GMs, as that choice has a big impact on the sort of games you can play. That said, our recommendation is that only really high-level magic can affect things on different worlds.
*Aucturn indeed appears different to different observers depending on who's looking at it--it seems to be an extremely powerful illusion effect.
*Aucturn is *not* a nice place to live, and the humans who manage to live there do so through personal magical power, unpleasant mutations, or the patronage of other powerful figures or dark gods.
*The book with stats for the Lashunta should be out late this year, I believe. And yes, I hope to reflect the differences in gender mechanically, as that's a big part of what makes them interesting.
*Cerebric fungi are on Aucturn as well, though they're also found on the planets listed. For many of the creatures found on multiple planets, it can often be difficult to tell where something originally evolved, but I agree that the cerebric fungus seems likely to be an Aucturn Original that traveled to other worlds. Regardless, scholars from Golarion are likely to believe that a given organism is native to wherever they happen to encounter it, thus creating such confusion.
*Plasma oozes were indeed intended to be immune to fire. The author has since been hired by Paizo, and therefore we are free to utilize corporal punishment, and the Yardstick of Reform will be employed heavily (with perhaps a visit from the Whip of Do Better Next Time). By which I mean that yes, we'll be fixing that in the B3 reprint.
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Shem wrote:James is it the solar system hardcover??? :)Sadly, there is no solar system hardcover currently in the works. :) But if we can sell a lot of Distant Worlds, you never know...
I think this is my single biggest problem with Paizo right now, in a nutshell - the "toe in the water" approach to weirdness and anything outside traditional pseudo-Medieval European fantasy. Give us the madness! We wants it! Numeria AP! Mythic level rules! Gazetteers for Geb and Nex, and the Mana Wastes and Alkenstar. Dragon Empires hardback. Embrace the weird already!
James Sutter Contributor |
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James Sutter wrote:I think this is my single biggest problem with Paizo right now, in a nutshell - the "toe in the water" approach to weirdness and anything outside traditional pseudo-Medieval European fantasy. Give us the madness! We wants it! Numeria AP! Mythic level rules! Gazetteers for Geb and Nex, and the Mana Wastes and Alkenstar. Dragon Empires hardback. Embrace the weird already!Shem wrote:James is it the solar system hardcover??? :)Sadly, there is no solar system hardcover currently in the works. :) But if we can sell a lot of Distant Worlds, you never know...
Don't worry, there's some extensive weirdness coming down the line. :)
But in seriousness, the "toe in the water" approach is really important to our business model. This company has had some great success over the last few years, but it's not like we're out of the woods. If we hitched a big chunk of our business--like a hardcover, or an AP--to a topic and nobody bought it, we'd be hurting. Bad. Dipping a toe lets us gauge interest and make sure we focus our energy on things that our community actually wants (and which, subsequently, people will buy). And it also lets us experiment with a much broader range of weirdness than many people would think sensible... such as a solar system book for a fantasy world!
Mikaze |
Wow, the Ilee are something else. Tempted to implement Eidolon building rules for them. Really like the nod to reskinning in the Aliens section.
I'm a little confused about something on Verces: The nations as described in the text seem like they would be rings, all of them bordering each other. But the shape of Kashak on the map doesnt match up with that description. Am I interpreting the text incorrectly, or is Kashak as drawn on the map an anomoly?
The details on what's done with those Ascetics of Nar raises a lot of possibilities and questions too. Should probably just make a thread for that planet. :)
edit-Hot damn the Wailing Stone is spooky.
James Sutter Contributor |
I'm a little confused about something on Verces: The nations as described in the text seem like they would be rings, all of them bordering each other. But the shape of Kashak on the map doesnt match up with that description. Am I interpreting the text incorrectly, or is Kashak as drawn on the map an anomoly?
Many nations on Verces indeed run all the way from one side of the Ring to the other, forming rough rectangles, but not all of them--as with most national borders that evolve naturally, they also tend to twist around and follow natural features. Due to various political issues, Kashak's hasn't been able to hold the area closer to the eastern border of the Ring. (Honestly, that's probably one of the reasons they're more disgruntled and prone to conflict than other Ring nations.)
So in short: Nations on Verces *tend* to form rectangular striations in the ring, but it's not terribly uncommon for a given section of ring to have several small countries within it (especially if they were once a larger nation that broke into several pieces).
Starglyte |
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James Sutter wrote:I think this is my single biggest problem with Paizo right now, in a nutshell - the "toe in the water" approach to weirdness and anything outside traditional pseudo-Medieval European fantasy. Give us the madness! We wants it! Numeria AP! Mythic level rules! Gazetteers for Geb and Nex, and the Mana Wastes and Alkenstar. Dragon Empires hardback. Embrace the weird already!Shem wrote:James is it the solar system hardcover??? :)Sadly, there is no solar system hardcover currently in the works. :) But if we can sell a lot of Distant Worlds, you never know...
Hear Hear! I use 4E for my pseudo-Medieval fantasy fix. Bring on the Numeria!
Mikaze |
Mikaze wrote:
I'm a little confused about something on Verces: The nations as described in the text seem like they would be rings, all of them bordering each other. But the shape of Kashak on the map doesnt match up with that description. Am I interpreting the text incorrectly, or is Kashak as drawn on the map an anomoly?Many nations on Verces indeed run all the way from one side of the Ring to the other, forming rough rectangles, but not all of them--as with most national borders that evolve naturally, they also tend to twist around and follow natural features. Due to various political issues, Kashak's hasn't been able to hold the area closer to the eastern border of the Ring. (Honestly, that's probably one of the reasons they're more disgruntled and prone to conflict than other Ring nations.)
So in short: Nations on Verces *tend* to form rectangular striations in the ring, but it's not terribly uncommon for a given section of ring to have several small countries within it (especially if they were once a larger nation that broke into several pieces).
Ah, I was misreading the description of how their borders are laid out. :) I was actually thinking of each nation as being rings along rings, all forming the actual Ring. Should have caught on what with the rectangle-shape mention, but I think I was looking at the thing sideways in my head.
Thanks!
Mikaze |
Scott Andrews wrote:I would buy that in a minute!Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Seconded.James Sutter wrote:Don't worry, there's some extensive weirdness coming down the line. :)I now want an Ultimate Weirdness hardcover.
Only if it has a Forever Queen cheesecake cover.
oh I'd buy it anyway
Kvantum |
Scott Andrews wrote:I would buy that in a minute!Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Seconded.James Sutter wrote:Don't worry, there's some extensive weirdness coming down the line. :)I now want an Ultimate Weirdness hardcover.
Like what the Gamemastery Guide was supposed to be, but with a focus on crunch rather than just 2 page treatments on the various topics.
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Shem |
Shem wrote:James is it the solar system hardcover??? :)Sadly, there is no solar system hardcover currently in the works. :) But if we can sell a lot of Distant Worlds, you never know...
I am betting it is the Bestiary 4....
I just finished the rest of Distant Worlds. I am not sure how big a fan I am of the gas giants but everything else, for me, including the moons of those giants was excellent. Clearly in my mind the best campaign supplement I have read (I have not read them all mind you).
I am considering buying a couple more to give away as gifts just to boost sales. Then again, I don't want my players to read any of this. I am running two different adventure paths right now, and I am considering taking them off planets once the paths are over. I have wanted to play a Barsoom style campaign for a long time and you did a good job of making that possible for us. All the other ideas out there are outstanding.
Every time I read about another planet I was again blown away. I love all the ideas you used and can't wait for more information on the solar system.
You should really do another book this size on the Dark Tapestry. And of course the coveted solar system hardcover book (I know but I am going ot keep mentioning it until ya'll get so tired of hearing it you just do the book to shut me up)...
Awesome job...
Blastoguy |
Brainiac58 wrote:Count me in as well ;)Scott Andrews wrote:I would buy that in a minute!Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Seconded.James Sutter wrote:Don't worry, there's some extensive weirdness coming down the line. :)I now want an Ultimate Weirdness hardcover.
Any my axe!
Seriously though, more weird stuff; there's enough western fantasy content on the shelves to last a life time. My kingdom for dragon empires and solar system hardcovers; I'd pay full tag for Distant Worlds: The Green Planet, Distant Worlds: The Red Planet, and Distant Worlds: Beyond the Line. Ideally with two to three new xeno player races in each.
Now I still haven't got my copy of this tome in my hands yet, and I have a question that has been eating at me... WHERE IS SOVRYIAN LOCATED? (inb4 Castrovel)
Lord Gadigan |
Someone tell me where Sovyrian is... please?
Does Aballon, Castrovel, Akiton, or Verces have any moons?
Aballon and Verces I can confirm as 'no', at least as far as info in this book goes. I haven't fully read the Castrovel and Akiton sections yet, but haven't noticed a moon for either yet.
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This is one of the reasons I subscribe. I have had it for several days. Read the entire thing and have a PDF. Another reason I subscribe is I do not have to worry about missing anything as it comes out. Much like the Tome of Horrors Complete that so many people did not hear about until the first preorders were on the street, I do not want to miss anything. I want my Paizo gaming goodness (PGG) when it comes out without having to search the products to make sure I am completely informed and sometimes something just shows up that I did not realize was being released.
Winterthorn |
Shem, I have considered subscribing, but there's a catch: I'm in Canada and that means extra costs as well as worry about the various shippers mangling/damaging my books and soft cover paperbacks over the border. My FLGS gets PF books at competitive prices such that I usually pay in Canadian dollars the same Americans pay in the US. (The currencies are often at par lately so I'm happy.) The only real drawback is I don't have a PDF copy of any of the PF books.
Edit: I also gain a 10% "loyal customer discount" at my FLGS.