Kobold Quarterly 10 PDF

Now available in PDF; we should have print copies by Friday.

Heh. Two days later and I'm still stoked about having made the cover.

Oh. And this issue does have Elf Lust in it (page 86).

I subscribe. PDF and print. Its another excellent issue.

Is there a way to get a subscription here, so the stuff is shipped with PF subscription shipments?

And concerning this issue: How much 4e content?

There is what seems like a bit more 4e content in this one but Wolfgang added extra pages. There are at two PF specific articles.

Is there a way to get a subscription here, so the stuff is shipped with PF subscription shipments?

It's been discussed with Paizo. Right now, no way to make that happen. Maybe after PF RPG ships, they'll be able to consider it again.

And concerning this issue: How much 4e content?

The Skill Challenges feature article, the reinvented Halflings PC by John Wick and Scott Gable, the Warlock article, and lots of general utility material like the PCs without Backgrounds, the Halberd, and Secrets of the Gelantinous Cube.

And the clockwork hounds/hunters will get a 4E writeup shortly as well.

So, more than last issue, but then, there's more of everything.

And not to amend Wolfgang, there's a good amount of 3.5 material.. An interview with Jason Bulmahn on PF RPG (with the finished Shadow Dance Prestige Class), and a Golarion approved article on Protean Magic (with magic items and such as well as spells).

Correct me if I'm wrong, KaeYoss will be concerned about how much 4E material there.. not how little of it there is.

So I'm accenting the positive in the context that KaeYoss is likely to be asking.

So I'm accenting the positive in the context that KaeYoss is likely to be asking.

Yes. At least half of what Wolfgang mentioned is not necessarily 4e specific. The halberds for instance is all historical fluff. I wrote the cube article with 3.5 in mind. Etc.

And hey.. I forgot to mention that I did enjoy that Gelatinous Cube article, Wicht. Todd's Protean article grabbed my attention, but yours was great too. Just took me a little longer to get to it.

And hey.. I forgot to mention that I did enjoy that Gelatinous Cube article, Wicht. Todd's Protean article grabbed my attention, but yours was great too. Just took me a little longer to get to it.

Thanks.

I forgive you for reading the front portion of the magazine first. ;)

Personally I tend to start closer to the back 'cuz I always flip to the comics first.

Sure, looked at the other way, there's only 2 articles that are 4E-only (because several I listed are either dual-stat or systemless).

All of it is directly useful for gamers who aren't system zealots; I've gotten a surprising number of notes from gamers who aren't using D&D as their main system at all. Which is oddly gratifying.

Wohoo!

Super-sized issue! Can't wait!

(Well actually I can, cause I'm one of those nuts who for something like this prefers to read their print copy. . .)

Wohoo!

Super-sized issue! Can't wait!

(Well actually I can, cause I'm one of those nuts who for something like this prefers to read their print copy. . .)

Downloading the pdf while I´m typing this... (agonizing slow, btw - I guess its due to much traffic) Still, a print copy would be much nicer. I guess I´ll have to find a way to make this work somehow.

Stefan

Sure, looked at the other way, there's only 2 articles that are 4E-only (because several I listed are either dual-stat or systemless).

All of it is directly useful for gamers who aren't system zealots; I've gotten a surprising number of notes from gamers who aren't using D&D as their main system at all. Which is oddly gratifying.

Well, I kinda am a Zealot. But let me explain:

And hey.. I forgot to mention that I did enjoy that Gelatinous Cube article, Wicht. Todd's Protean article grabbed my attention, but yours was great too. Just took me a little longer to get to it.

Hm... I already have Dungeon Denizens Revisited. Can this be considered a follow-up, supplemental article, or is it incompatible?

I think I lean towards getting this one (as a PDF - my printer has been bored lately, anyway). I'm curious about the Shadowdancer, and there's Proteans. Gotta support my chaotic brethren in their relentless struggle against order!

Alright, I admit it: It's the elven lust part that sold me on this. ;-)

So, regarding all that: If you subtract the stuff that talks about 4e rules mechanics, stuff that works best with 4e's PoL and setting, and that, how many pages am I losing from this?

Five. The 4 page Skilll Challenges article and the 1 page of 4e stats for the Haffuns. The Warlock article would mainly appeal to 4e gamers, but there's no actual specifically 4e stats in it, or much of any stats at all for that matter. Just a pure fluff piece, other than a couple of brief references to skills by their 4e names, and talking about pacts. (I saw a couple of fan-made systems on the WotC boards for different types/allegiances/pacts of warlocks long before 4e, for what it's worth.)

The warlock article sounds like it is tied too much to what they made out of the warlock in 4e. I'll have to read it, though.

I don't like the warlock class, anyway. I prefer the sorcerer, which should kill the warlock and take its stuff.

The Haffuns are awesome.

They're replacing Halflings in my version of Golarion.

I'd love to see something like this expanded as a substitute for the fluff-free, drab halflings currently inhabiting Golarion. Paizo should get on to those writers for 'Halflings of Golarion'.

Perhaps the mysterious background is too similar to the Gnomes... but it's a crying shame that it is too late to get these into the core PFRPG.

I'm also definitely adding a Hill Giant encounter inspired by the ecology to my current campaign.

More broadly, and despite the added 4e, this is the best KQ so far - Protean fluff and crunch, Shadowdancer PrC, Haffuns, ace Hill Giant ecology (love those feats) and the regular features are all going great guns (interview with Grubb, Monte, Ask a Kobold...)

KQ has made my day and changed my game. Brilliant!

Watcher wrote:

And hey.. I forgot to mention that I did enjoy that Gelatinous Cube article, Wicht. Todd's Protean article grabbed my attention, but yours was great too. Just took me a little longer to get to it.

Hm... I already have Dungeon Denizens Revisited. Can this be considered a follow-up, supplemental article, or is it incompatible?

Only one or two things in the Dungeon Denizens Revisited is contradicted by anything in my article - mainly the issue of whether or not Cubes can live underwater. But in fairness, I wrote my article before the other came out and I tried to make sure that everything I wrote agreed with what had been written before, even to the point of digging up a copy of Ed Greenwood's original Ecology on the Gelatinous Cube.

My article though is on the care and feeding of Gelatinous Cubes. It provides rules for feeding them and raising them. You know, in case you wanted one for a pet. It also subsequently provides some alternate cube encounter ideas.

Way to go Wicht. I'll have to see if my new FLGS carries Kobold Quarterly.

...It also subsequently provides some alternate cube encounter ideas.

Such as the brilliant idea of the Gelatinous Sphere. I LOVE it.

Way to go Wicht. I'll have to see if my new FLGS carries Kobold Quarterly.

Ah, the joy of establishing new buying habits in a new place. Good luck with that.

Wicht wrote:

...It also subsequently provides some alternate cube encounter ideas.

Such as the brilliant idea of the Gelatinous Sphere. I LOVE it.

Thank you very much. I'm glad it has been so well recieved.

For those of you who favour Arabian settings (and with the Legacy of Fire adventure path going strong I know you're around here somewhere) there's an Arabian Inn with a dark secret in the caves below as the Map of Fantasy in this edition. Lots of great descriptive text and plot hoks built into it too.

Yeah, and that glorious Arabian Caravanserai is set in Katapesh, and was reviewed for use as official Pathfinder content.

Just saying.

Yeah, and that glorious Arabian Caravanserai is set in Katapesh, and was reviewed for use as official Pathfinder content.

Just saying.

A standardized icon or something to denote "official Pathfinder Chronicles material" would be great for this sort of thing in the future. Once the rules are out, I could see confusion arising about articles written about the setting and those using the system. And I hope there will be lots of articles of both!

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Yeah, and that glorious Arabian Caravanserai is set in Katapesh, and was reviewed for use as official Pathfinder content.

Just saying.

A standardized icon or something to denote "official Pathfinder Chronicles material" would be great for this sort of thing in the future. Once the rules are out, I could see confusion arising about articles written about the setting and those using the system. And I hope there will be lots of articles of both!

Yoda's got a good idea here. I'd love to see a Logo or something that signified whether something had been approved as offical Pathfinder/Golarion content.

Do, we the fans, NEED to have something 'approved'? Maybe not. But fans do like it. They like that reassurance that come with it.

Anyway, I second the motion that Yoda has put forward.

yoda8myhead wrote:

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Yeah, and that glorious Arabian Caravanserai is set in Katapesh, and was reviewed for use as official Pathfinder content.

Just saying.

A standardized icon or something to denote "official Pathfinder Chronicles material" would be great for this sort of thing in the future. Once the rules are out, I could see confusion arising about articles written about the setting and those using the system. And I hope there will be lots of articles of both!

Yoda's got a good idea here. I'd love to see a Logo or something that signified whether something had been approved as offical Pathfinder/Golarion content.

Do, we the fans, NEED to have something 'approved'? Maybe not. But fans do like it. They like that reassurance that come with it.

Anyway, I second the motion that Yoda has put forward.

If Wolfgang is running a Paizo-approved Pathfinder Chronicles article—which is the *only* way he or any other professional publisher can directly reference our setting—he can use the regular Pathfinder Chronicles logo.

If he's doing something original, produced under the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License, he'd use the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility logo.

And if he's doing a Paizo-approved item tying into our official Pathfinder RPG products or content, he can use the official Pathfinder RPG logo.

That should pretty much cover all of the circumstances...

If Wolfgang is running a Paizo-approved Pathfinder Chronicles article—which is the *only* way he or any other professional publisher can directly reference our setting—he can use the regular Pathfinder Chronicles logo.

Do it Wolfgang!

Thanks Vic!

Er, I was foolish not to ask for the Pathfinder Chronicles logo, since it was reviewed and approved.

Rest assured I will not make this mistake a second time!

Er, I was foolish not to ask for the Pathfinder Chronicles logo, since it was reviewed and approved.

Rest assured I will not make this mistake a second time!

~shakes my head and makes a "tisk"ing sound~ Wolfgang, Wolfgang, Wolfgang! We expected better out of you! ~I then find that my KQ subscription has now been deleted and all my older mags taken from me~ I am sorry Wolfgang! I am sorry!

~GRINS~

Yes, Yoda, I was a little surprised it did not get the "P" icon. I guess this was because it was a flavor article, and basically system neutral.

EDIT: And I see it was too long since I refreshed this tab...

My article though is on the care and feeding of Gelatinous Cubes. It provides rules for feeding them and raising them. You know, in case you wanted one for a pet.

Can't you just throw him a dwarf once a week?

Wicht wrote:

My article though is on the care and feeding of Gelatinous Cubes. It provides rules for feeding them and raising them. You know, in case you wanted one for a pet.

Can't you just throw him a dwarf once a week?

Some things even Cubes won't eat.

And don't throw it a Korobukoro (Spelling, OA Dwarf) It will just be hungry a half hour later.

Actually, THREE Pathfinder-specific articles:

1) The preview with the final text of the Shadowdancer class
2) The Sand Dragon Inn in Katapesh, an approved locale with complete map and hooks
3) Jason Buhlman's design notes and commentary on the RPG.

EDIT: FOUR! Four main weapons!
4) Pathfinder proteans to complement the Great Beyond book. Not sure how I overlooked the proteans, snakey chaos-mongers that they are.

Actually, THREE Pathfinder-specific articles:

1) The preview with the final text of the Shadowdancer class
2) The Sand Dragon Inn in Katapesh, an approved locale with complete map and hooks
3) Jason Buhlman's design notes and commentary on the RPG.

And the Proteans? 1 and 3 are the same, I think.

Wow, shipping KQ10, Dwarves of the Ironcrags, AND Halls of the Mountain King all in the same week seems to have made me a little punchy.

Let's notch that back down to three from four, shall we?

This afternoon, I talked a new store owner into ordering KQ. Just wanted you to know, WB, so you won't think I'm all complaints. Although, maybe I should have waited and told you when you weren't so punchy... ;)

Okay, I think some clarification needs to be made...

I was reading the Kobold 10 pdf, and it mentions that the PF Game Mastery Guide is going to be released in October '09. Yet on this website, it says the release date is February '10.

I am more inclined to believe this site.

There is what seems like a bit more 4e content in this one but Wolfgang added extra pages. There are at two PF specific articles.

The 4e content, especially the amount, is a dealbreaker for many of us, regardless of the increase in page count.

Feh, the smattering of 4.x content doesn't bug me.

I've not read much of it, waiting for a) my dead tree copy or b) My Paizo PDFs for the month to DL so I can burn a new DVD for work.

I'm hardcore 3.5/PRPG gamer but KQ is too good to pass because of some 4e content.

The 4E content doesn't bother me in the least. KQ is a great resource!

*continues checking the mail a few times a day to see if my dead tree copy has arrived*

Saying that the 4e content in Kobold Quarterly is a deal-breaker equates, in my mind, to saying that the articles are a deal-breaker in Playboy. I'm about as anti-4e as they come, but I'm not going to deny myself great 3.x and Pathfinder Chronicles content simply because there is support for another system. That's the very definition of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Wolfgang, as long as you maintain the same high standards of quality and keep the Pathfinder material coming, I will keep buying. And I hope KQ gains as large an audience and subscriber base as possible, of both 3.x and 4e players alike.

Three months ago there was almost an identical conversation about 3e vs. 4e content. The bottom line was - articles will be published based on who submits articles. I took up the challenge and submitted an article query. Others who want to support 3e material (or at least edition neutral material) should do the same.

Doing so will be more productive then refusing to buy at all because there might be an article with rules that are different than the rules you prefer to use. Even the 4e articles might contain content that can inspire you in your game and thats the whole point of the magazine anyway for us, isn't it. I have no interest in 4e rules at this point, but I still read the 4e articles. Of course I read the shampoo bottles in the bath too, so maybe its just me. :P

Three months ago there was almost an identical conversation about 3e vs. 4e content. The bottom line was - articles will be published based on who submits articles. I took up the challenge and submitted an article query. Others who want to support 3e material (or at least edition neutral material) should do the same.

Doing so will be more productive then refusing to buy at all because there might be an article with rules that are different than the rules you prefer to use. Even the 4e articles might contain content that can inspire you in your game and thats the whole point of the magazine anyway for us, isn't it. I have no interest in 4e rules at this point, but I still read the 4e articles. Of course I read the shampoo bottles in the bath too, so maybe its just me. :P

+1, now I just need to try again...

Saying that the 4e content in Kobold Quarterly is a deal-breaker equates, in my mind, to saying that the articles are a deal-breaker in Playboy. I'm about as anti-4e as they come, but I'm not going to deny myself great 3.x and Pathfinder Chronicles content simply because there is support for another system. That's the very definition of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Actually the fake, airbrushed and poorly photoshopped women was the deal breaker for me and Playboy :P

Okay, I think some clarification needs to be made...

I was reading the Kobold 10 pdf, and it mentions that the PF Game Mastery Guide is going to be released in October '09. Yet on this website, it says the release date is February '10.

I am more inclined to believe this site.

We originally we going to try to have the GameMastery Guide out for Christmas, but realized that we were smoking crack and that would be insane and would probably lead to total burn-out of the staff, so we moved it back to February 2010. I assume that the article for KQ10 was written before it was switched.

-Lisa