Lisa Stevens CEO |
Lisa Stevens wrote:According to my local game store, it was pushed back to December.I believe that this product is scheduled to arrive in the middle of next week.
-Lisa
With Thanksgiving in there, it will probably be early December before it is available in game stores, that is true. It usually takes around 2 weeks from when it arrives in our warehouse to get through the supply chain.
-Lisa
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
DitheringFool |
B_Wiklund wrote:There is Intellect Devourer information, but it is sparse and evocative rather than deeply informative.I seem to recall a paizo blog from quite awhile back talking about this supplement and material re intellect devourers. Is this the book that has info on the walking brains?
says the blob of eyes and mouths...
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
While I was grumbling to see the Neothid and Intellect Devourer stripped of their psionic stats, I was happy that you included psionic stats for the Seugathi. Shatter Mind Blank is nice for them, and I still see Seugathi Soul Knives.
I also love the Pech/Derro connection. Is it too late to replace Kobold with Derro in the Gnomes' enemy bonus? also, when will we see Pathfinder Spriggans?
Now I've got to track down Pelucider books.
Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
cappadocius |
Matthew Morris wrote:when will we see Pathfinder Spriggans?It seems like there was some mention of spriggans in the PFCS maybe under gnomes. I do recall that many are found in the Mwangi Expanse, and that section may have information on them as well.
I think Matt wants some crunch. Some usage in an scenario or AP. He wants a bad-ass throwdown between Lini and Throatwobbler Mangrove, 4th-level Spriggan Barbarian.
@stroVal |
Gosh, I hate to say this but I just don't like the name "the Darklands." I mean, I 'll live with it or tweak it for myself, but it's the first Pathfinder name that just doesn't sit well with me.
Maybe just "the Dark" or "the Darkhollows" or "the Darkrealms" or (taking a cue from Bastion Press) "the Black," but the word 'lands' suggests above ground to me.
Like I said, I'll can deal with it, but is anyone else feeling the same way?
Valid Point. I agree..It's not bad; it just doesn't fit
Mauricio Quintana RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
so, is this supplement like others in the line, crunch-light and fluff-heavy? I have really enjoyed "classic monsters revisited" and "guide to Korvosa" (running CotCT right now), and I fully intend to run Second Darkness, but since I've converted all my games to 4e (ducks preemptively), my interest on this supplement depends on how much of the material can be readily imported.
So, could anyone who already has the supplement answer this one for me? roughly, what's the ratio of fluff-to-crunch in "Into the Darklands"?
Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
so, is this supplement like others in the line, crunch-light and fluff-heavy? I have really enjoyed "classic monsters revisited" and "guide to Korvosa" (running CotCT right now), and I fully intend to run Second Darkness, but since I've converted all my games to 4e (ducks preemptively), my interest on this supplement depends on how much of the material can be readily imported.
So, could anyone who already has the supplement answer this one for me? roughly, what's the ratio of fluff-to-crunch in "Into the Darklands"?
I'd guess about an 80/20 ratio to fluff versus crunch, and it may be even higher on the fluff side, iirc. It's a lot like the campaign setting book (on a smaller scale) in that its primariry dealing with descriptions of the places and cultures/races with crunch mainly limited to sidebars (how to adjudicate Darklands hazards, etc.). I would think you could incorporate it into a 4e game fairly easily with little to no work other than the half dozen or so new monsters that are introduced.
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
I think this book actually contains a higher level of crunch than other Chronicles products. Not to say it's not still really full of flavor as well. I feel like Into the Darklands is the most dense book to date when it comes to crunch actually. It's hidden in every little nook and cranny of the text. But I agree with Mr. Vaughan that it's flavor-centric enough that you could use it in any edition.
Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
Do you have any plans for a second part of Into the Darklands or a similar manual expanding the Darklands in any future? I love much of your job in Pathfinder Setting but the result of the Darklands amazed me and I need more of them.Please excuse my poor english.
I'm not aware of any right now, but I sure hope so. :-)
nightflier |
I haven't yet had an opportunity to read through the Into the Darklands - I'm still waiting shipment from Canada - but Underdark/Darklands have enormous role playing potential. I mean, who needs surface anyway? Therefore, there is a need of a product dedicated to the various races of Darklands. Just my opinion...
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Haldir |
I was going to order at Target.com (which of course goes through amazon for their book orders (boooo)). Anyways, they said the book wouldn't come out till Jan 09?? Anyone know what's up with that?
I'll probably end up ordering it through Paizo anyways, but I thought that it was odd that came up that way (Pathfinder-Endless Night, was ok, ships out the 10th this month).
thanks
RM
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
I was going to order at Target.com (which of course goes through amazon for their book orders (boooo)). Anyways, they said the book wouldn't come out till Jan 09?? Anyone know what's up with that?
In my experience, the relationship between when we tell Amazon a product will come out, when they tell their customers a product will come out, and when their customers actually begin to receive said products is potentially the basis for an entirely new and complex branch of mathematics. I believe that when one determines the simplest equation to describe these relationships, one will have found the secrets of the universe.
Steve Geddes |
OK this must be addressed somewhere but I'm clueless so I'll just ask here....I've just discovered Paizo and pathfinder in particular (awesome on so many levels - best world ever in my opinion speaking as an obsessive worldbook/supplement collector since the late 70s). This book is typically high standard, almost everything I wanted...
What happened to mind flayers?
I have a sinking feeling I know the answer, but someone please put me out of my misery. My absolute favorite mastervillain/terrifying/horror monster...nowhere in sight *sniff*
Shisumo |
OK this must be addressed somewhere but I'm clueless so I'll just ask here....I've just discovered Paizo and pathfinder in particular (awesome on so many levels - best world ever in my opinion speaking as an obsessive worldbook/supplement collector since the late 70s). This book is typically high standard, almost everything I wanted...
What happened to mind flayers?
I have a sinking feeling I know the answer, but someone please put me out of my misery. My absolute favorite mastervillain/terrifying/horror monster...nowhere in sight *sniff*
Closed content. WotC's sandbox only.
Sayler Van Merlin |
I am very interested in this book. I regrettably had to steer clear of earlier works in this line because of the "typo storm" that hit when Paizo was working too hard to catch up their deadlines. I can't stand typos-they just distract me too much. Can anyone tell me if this book went to print after the great typo storm of '08? :)
James Jacobs Creative Director |
While I was grumbling to see the Neothid and Intellect Devourer stripped of their psionic stats, I was happy that you included psionic stats for the Seugathi. Shatter Mind Blank is nice for them, and I still see Seugathi Soul Knives.
I also love the Pech/Derro connection. Is it too late to replace Kobold with Derro in the Gnomes' enemy bonus? also, when will we see Pathfinder Spriggans?
Now I've got to track down Pelucider books.
Well... there's still psionic versions of the intellect deveourer and neothelid online in the psionic SRD, and they work perfectly fine in place of the versions we gave in Darklands. So if you use the psionic version of the seugathi, you should definately use the psionic versions of the other two; I included the non-psionic versions for all the folks who don't want to use psionics in their games, not to trick fans of psionics into using "lesser versions." ;-)
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Do you have any plans for a second part of Into the Darklands or a similar manual expanding the Darklands in any future? I love much of your job in Pathfinder Setting but the result of the Darklands amazed me and I need more of them.Please excuse my poor english.
Pathfinder 18 has a bit more about the Land of Black Blood. Beyond that... I certainly hope that we'll be able to do more stuff with the Darklands in the future some time!
James Jacobs Creative Director |
I am very interested in this book. I regrettably had to steer clear of earlier works in this line because of the "typo storm" that hit when Paizo was working too hard to catch up their deadlines. I can't stand typos-they just distract me too much. Can anyone tell me if this book went to print after the great typo storm of '08? :)
It went to print after the typo storm (an event we call "Gen Con" at the office). Whether or not there are too many typos in there for your taste is something you'll have to decide on your own, though.
Sayler Van Merlin |
Sayler Van Merlin wrote:I am very interested in this book. I regrettably had to steer clear of earlier works in this line because of the "typo storm" that hit when Paizo was working too hard to catch up their deadlines. I can't stand typos-they just distract me too much. Can anyone tell me if this book went to print after the great typo storm of '08? :)It went to print after the typo storm (an event we call "Gen Con" at the office). Whether or not there are too many typos in there for your taste is something you'll have to decide on your own, though.
thank you for your prompt and courteous response
I hope I wasn't too harsh in my query...
Tharen the Damned |
Steve Geddes wrote:Closed content. WotC's sandbox only.OK this must be addressed somewhere but I'm clueless so I'll just ask here....I've just discovered Paizo and pathfinder in particular (awesome on so many levels - best world ever in my opinion speaking as an obsessive worldbook/supplement collector since the late 70s). This book is typically high standard, almost everything I wanted...
What happened to mind flayers?
I have a sinking feeling I know the answer, but someone please put me out of my misery. My absolute favorite mastervillain/terrifying/horror monster...nowhere in sight *sniff*
The name is closed contend, but the concept is not. Ari Marmell (ala Mouseferatu at ENWORLD) has created the Phrenic Scourge. An OGL Mind Flayer version. Far more creepy and chtuluesque IMHO.
There are 2 versions of it.
1)The magic-using version by Lion's Den Press.
2 The psionic-using version by Dreamscarred Press.
I see the Mindflayers/Scourges as creatures from beyond the great tapestry. Servants of the Great Old Ones like the Neolithids.
Boerngrim |
Shisumo wrote:Steve Geddes wrote:Closed content. WotC's sandbox only.OK this must be addressed somewhere but I'm clueless so I'll just ask here....I've just discovered Paizo and pathfinder in particular (awesome on so many levels - best world ever in my opinion speaking as an obsessive worldbook/supplement collector since the late 70s). This book is typically high standard, almost everything I wanted...
What happened to mind flayers?
I have a sinking feeling I know the answer, but someone please put me out of my misery. My absolute favorite mastervillain/terrifying/horror monster...nowhere in sight *sniff*
The name is closed contend, but the concept is not. Ari Marmell (ala Mouseferatu at ENWORLD) has created the Phrenic Scourge. An OGL Mind Flayer version. Far more creepy and chtuluesque IMHO.
There are 2 versions of it.
1)The magic-using version by Lion's Den Press.
2 The psionic-using version by Dreamscarred Press.
I see the Mindflayers/Scourges as creatures from beyond the great tapestry. Servants of the Great Old Ones like the Neolithids.
That Ari! He's OK in my book!
Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
Absinth |
Again, let me say what an awesome book this is! It's just great, but waaaaayyyy too short. I can't wait to see a sequel... There's some stuff I'd like to see; like an equipment section. I guess there would be enough leftz out that would justify a second book. So, ppl, please buy this great and useful book, so Paizo can't back out of releasing a second one. Well, at least it worked with CMR...
Greg A. Vaughan Frog God Games |
Again, let me say what an awesome book this is! It's just great, but waaaaayyyy too short. I can't wait to see a sequel... There's some stuff I'd like to see; like an equipment section. I guess there would be enough leftz out that would justify a second book. So, ppl, please buy this great and useful book, so Paizo can't back out of releasing a second one. Well, at least it worked with CMR...
Say on, by all means. There was indeed an equipment appendix that didn't make the cut. More Darklands! Huzzah!
Gamer Girrl RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 |
Just wondering here...
Where are stats for the gugs and the dire corbies? Both beasties get mentioned in the Guide, but I don't remember seeing their stats anywhere.
That said, love the book. Great work!
Dire Corbies I'd have to look for, but Gugs are from Crimson Throne, Skeletons of Scarwell :)
EDIT: And the Dire Corby is from Tome of Horrors Revised :)
Eric Hinkle |
Eric Hinkle wrote:Just wondering here...
Where are stats for the gugs and the dire corbies? Both beasties get mentioned in the Guide, but I don't remember seeing their stats anywhere.
That said, love the book. Great work!
Dire Corbies I'd have to look for, but Gugs are from Crimson Throne, Skeletons of Scarwell :)
EDIT: And the Dire Corby is from Tome of Horrors Revised :)
Thanks for the help. One more reason to finish my Crimson Throne collection before the drow/Darkans one...
Sean K Reynolds Contributor |
Just wondering here...
Where are stats for the gugs and the dire corbies? Both beasties get mentioned in the Guide, but I don't remember seeing their stats anywhere.
That said, love the book. Great work!
Check the monster index on page 64, it tells you where to find stats of all the weird monsters mentioned in the book.