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Hey!

running this tomorrow. I know my cleric is going to have this spell, Hide from undead, going for the full 5o min on all the group (4 people and the wolf for a ranger). I am guessing that this makes them invisible to all the haunts. So they would go through the mansion and not see the haunts and they wouldn't trigger because the haunts can't see them. However, in the spell says it ends if they touch an undead creature. Is the whole house considered undead because of Vorel's spirit? Or if they touch a trigger, like piano or something would that cause the spell to end?

Thanks!


So my party is heading to Foxglove Manor. I have changed the premise that Aldern has been the killer because a player read ahead and knows that aldern is the skinshaw man. SO, seeing that Nualia escaped, AND she went to Magnimar, talked to Xanesha (sp), who sent her back to the Manor with a suped up Faceless stalker where Aldern was collecting the fungus. I had the Faceless stalker turn into one of the PC's (who Nualia had captured and was going to sacrifice but escaped) be the "skinshaw man" doing all the murders in town. Made for some great RP seeing the look on their faces that their friend was killing people (who couldn't make those sessions) when they cast a talking dead spell and a tracking spell.

My rational is that the stalker is carrying on the sihedran ritual with a knife covered in the ghoul fungus and that is spreading the disease, AND she is also collecting people to sacrifice to help complete her turning into a demon. My question is, how do I have her in the basement of the Manor? I was also going to try to have Foxglove not kill his wife and that he has been trapped down there just collecting the fungus. So that they can see he was good and just fell on hard times. BUT its getting hard to rewrite a few of the haunts... I was thinking about making Iesha another of Vorel's wifes or mistress or something... OR maybe Nualia killed her?
but it seems that if Aldern survives, its too easy for him to just tell the PC's everything they need to know... so maybe he might succumb to the fever at the last minute...

Also maybe have a goulish army in waiting that Nualia was going to use to attack sandpoint? I was going to remake the laboratory to a large room that had been redone into a Lamashtu shrine as well. should I make Nualia a half fiend now? or is that such a long process that it wouldn't have happened in a month? I wanted the pcs to battle the stalker looking like them (we are new to pathfinder and they don't know that stalkers even exist). I want Nualia to escape the battle at the end too... Really I am having a hard time making it into a story, and not just oh at the end Nualia is there...

Any suggestions about any of it would be appreciated!


So I'm running RotRL and my PCs are out fighting the Ghouls in the Cornfields... This is also my first few months in Pathfinder (Rolemaster guy for about 20 years before) so spells are different etc... My cleric pulls out this spell... I briefly read it, well Ghouls are evil so yes it should work. I even gave them a 2nd saving throw for both Ghoul Fever and Paralyze. I'm now re-reading it and am thinking I totally missed the re-roll (should be only for mind control) My question is

1) Is Ghoul Fever and paralyze "effects" for the purposes of this spell and

2) Is paralyze considered "mind control" I'm leaning towards no, but wanted some consensus before I tell my PCs...

I ran a too powerful 6 Ghouls and 5 Ghoul cutthroats and a variant 1 Ghoul Corpulent.... They barely made it out, but basically they got a lot of 2nd saving throws that saved them from the paralyze then coupe de grace death... Still learning how to balance the game for my pcs...(too easy vs too hard...)

Thanks!