| cakeisgood |
Iv been reading through the pathfinder wiki for some guidance on the issue, as well as general supplemental books but one question always remains.
How do the aforementioned beings compare, "power"-wise?
According to the wiki language, Asmodeus claims full divinity, which is elsewhere described as only obtained by beings such as Azathoth, an outer god. Old ones (Cthulu, Hastur), are described as more "demigod", close in power to an archdevil/archdemon.
I understand when it comes to this level, regular concepts and gameplay would be out the window, but its valid when it comes to a games flavor if it is large scale, or even if players seek divinity.
I'll try to make it easier to answer with a few unlikely, although possible scenarios which will more clearly define a structure:
1) Urgathoa, a deity, but according to lore a former mortal whom resides in abaddon, and a horseman, lets say Charon (Horseman of Death), ruling over said plane get into a tussle. Who has the edge? It wouldnt be the first time a deity went to war against the horsemen (Lamashtu).
2)Lamashtu, a former demon lord who achieved godhood, vs Asmodeus, still defined as an Archdevil (although like i said, claims full divinity).
3)Iomedae, a very popular deity, but achieved it through the starstone, and was only a herald for a while, seems to only imply strength. I really feel like she could be shut down fairly easily by an older deity.
The lines are grey, and grey in different places based on what plane.
An empyreal lord is a minor deity of the good realms, defined as a CR of 20+
Elemental lords are "not quite divine", but do not include a rough CR
Infernal Dukes are defined as not true deities but likely could hold their own
Demon Lords and Horsemen are both defined with a CR 30+
Lore would suggest in many cases a deity is not capable of easily overpowering and planar ruler, and on a political and social level, would be regarded as equals in some cases.