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*Thelith wrote:
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Simple request. These are the relevant parts of the PF 1e Duergar stat block for my query: DUERGAR
AC 17 Melee warhammer +3 (1d8+1/x3)
Str 12, Dex 9, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 4 Could someone please modify the above so as to show the effect that an Enlarge Person spell would have, just to help me understand how it works. Thanks in advance. ![]()
I have a combat set up. A fighter and a thief versus 3 xvarts. Your supposed to declare your actions before you roll initiative, so we do. We roll initiative, players roll 9, xvarts roll 7. Fighter has a longsword so his speed factor adds 5, thief is using a short bow so adds 7, xvarts have short swords so add 3.
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OK thanks for the replies. I like to look at alternate ways to do stuff, and wondered if ability scores/modifiers could be simplified to one score. Was thinking that modifiers could be listed in halves. i.e. +1.0 (instead of 12) or +1.5 (instead of 13) and just round it down when using it for a check. ![]()
Are the ability scores themselves actually used for anything in the game? Other than to tell you what your modifiers and bonus spells are. For example, if you didn't write your ability scores on your character sheet and just wrote your ability modifier down, would that make a difference to the game. Odd question but just a thought I had last night. ![]()
Could someone please tell me if I got these prices right? Sorry about the formatting, wasn't sure how to put tables in :D Weapon..........................................Craft DC……Raw Material Cost…Market Price
Scimitar, Masterwork…………………………15……………105 gp………………315 gp
Scimitar, Adamantine……………………………15……………1005 gp……………3015 gp
Club, Darkwood……………………………………12……………10 gp…………………30 gp Club, Masterwork Darkwood…………………12……………110 gp……………330 gp
Scimitar, Cold Iron…………………………………15………………10 gp…………………30 gp Scimitar, Masterwork Cold Iron……………15……………110 gp………………330 gp
Scimitar, Mithral……………………………………15………………672 gp………………2015 gp Scimitar, Alchemical Silver………………………15………………35 gp…………………105 gp Scimitar, Masterwork Alchemical Silver…15………………135 gp………………405 gp
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Calex wrote: I haven't actually seen it, but I thought I heard someplace that Hackmaster had one in it too. It's the same as the AD&D one :D yellowdingo wrote: Roll 1d6. Number of exits from the hexagon. Love the simplicity. Terquem wrote:
Thanks for that, looks interesting. ![]()
Can anyone suggest any random dungeon generators they know of to me. I'm specifically looking for ones which use dice and you generate them as you go. I don't want a computer one that you generate before-hand like Donjon etc. I have the one from Warhammer Quest, the one from Advanced Heroquest and the one from the 1st Ed. DMG. Can anyone think of any others? ![]()
I think the Hobgoblin should be CR 1 because its using the elite array. I know they're different rulesets (kind of) but... from DMG3.5 Hobgoblin (level 1 warrior) abilities:
from PF Hobgoblin (level 1 fighter)abilities:
Difference:
Which is suspiciously close to the +4,+4,+2,+2,0,-2 it says you should add to ability scores when adding class levels on pg 297 of the Bestiary followed by Step 3, add 1 to CR for adding to a 'key' area of the monsters role. ![]()
Chess Pwn wrote: So post what four PCs you had and what the hobgoblins were like, unless you didn't change them, and what zombie stat block were the zombies. I'm guessing in this info is where you'll find out why one did better. The PCs were Valeros, Kyra, Merisiel, and Ezren from the Beginner Box. OK, I understand why the Hobgoblin is CR 1/2, NPC-1. But the fact is, stat-wise, a Hobgoblin is just as tough (if not tougher) to beat up than a Gnoll. Does anyone see what I mean? Is the CR mechanic broken? ![]()
Chess Pwn wrote: So post what four PCs you had and what the hobgoblins were like, unless you didn't change them, and what zombie stat block were the zombies. I'm guessing in this info is where you'll find out why one did better. The PCs were Valeros, Kyra, Merisiel, and Ezren from the Beginner Box. OK, I understand why the Hobgoblin is CR 1/2, NPC-1. But the fact is, stat-wise, a Hobgoblin is just as tough (if not tougher) to beat up than a Gnoll. Does any see what I mean? Is the CR mechanic broken? ![]()
Brf wrote:
. But if you compare it with a Gnoll, which is supposed to be tougher (CR 1), the only thing the Gnoll is better at is dealing damage. That can't be right surely. ![]()
Also, another question along the same lines... A group of 4 hobgoblins = 4 x 200 XP = 800 xp = CR 3 encounter But Tables 12-3 (pg 398, core rules) says that 4 monsters = CR+4 1/2 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 = CR4 encounter Which one is correct? Based on the slaughter-fest of my mock combat I would say CR4 is correct. ![]()
On page 297 of the Bestiary it gives rules for adding class levels to monsters. 'Step 3: Determining CR' says that adding a class level generally adds 1 to the creatures CR. I've just been comparing monsters between this book and the 3.5 MM and see that a hobgoblin has a CR 1/2 in both books but is massively more powerful in PF - higher ability scores and more HP. It looks like they've taken the MM stats, added the ability score modifiers from Step 2 (page 297 Bestiary) and given the hobgoblin a class level in fighter. Shouldn't Hobgoblin be a CR 1 creature in this book? (1/2 + 1 class level) I just ran a mock combat between 4 PCs and 4 Hobgoblins, where the PCs were slaughtered. And, as a comparison of another CR 1/2 creature, ran the same characters through a combat with 4 zombies, which they won although one PC fell. Just wondering would it be a good idea to add 1 CR level to each monster with class levels in the Bestiary? ![]()
Can anyone suggest any books/websites/pdf (anything) that gives ideas for stuff that can happen when in an urban environment. I'm not just talking about being set upon by bandits/thieves etc., I want both positive and negative events, things that would happen in everyday life if your player lived in that village/town/city etc, some just for flavor and some that might have an impact on the character. ![]()
I like the idea of condensing the Disable Device check result to either, "you unlock the door", or "the lock breaks/jams, the door is now stuck and needs breaking down". It saves a load of time and gets the same result. Unless time is an issue, like the examples above, in which case the original method is fine. ![]()
This is a simple way to generate a random characters ability scores using dice and tables, see what you think: Step 1: Roll a d4, d8, d12, and d20 Gender (d4 result) 1-2 = Male
Race (d8 result) 1 = Dwarf
Class (d12 result) 1 = Barbarian: STR - CON - DEX - WIS - INT - CHA
Write the ability scores down, in the order presented in the table above, on a piece of paper for your generated class. Example wrote:
Ability Importance (d20 result) 1-7 = 1,2,3
Step 2: Write the numbers generated by the d20 result next to the abilities in the order they're written. Roll the d20 again, and do the same for the next 3 abilities Example wrote:
Step 3: Roll a d40 and consult this table: 1 = 18 / 13 / 11. Cost: 21; Remaining: -6
The scores generated go in the order decided by your first d20 roll. With the "Standard Fantasy" option you have 15 points to spend, the following example's result would cost 19 points, meaning you have a remaining budget of -4 points. Example wrote:
Step 4: Consult the next table and roll an appropriate die to generate the final 3 ability scores in the same way as Step 3. Remaining Budget: 0 (d6) 1 = 13 / 9 / 8. Cost: 0; Remaining: 0
Remaining Budget: -1 (d5) 1 = 13 / 8 / 8. Cost: -1; Remaining: 0
Remaining Budget: -2 (d4) 1 = 12 / 8 / 8. Cost: -2; Remaining: 0
Remaining Budget: -3 (d3) 1 = 11 / 8 / 8. Cost: -3; Remaining: 0
Remaining Budget: -4 (d2) 1 = 10 / 8 / 8. Cost: -4; Remaining: 0
Remaining Budget: -5 9 / 8 / 8. Cost: -5; Remaining: 0 Remaining Budget: -6 8 / 8 / 8. Cost: -6; Remaining: 0 Example wrote:
You need to add racial adjustments and develop the character from here. Hopefully useful for quickly creating characters. ![]()
SunsetPsychosis wrote:
I like this idea. I think I will use the same rules for disabling traps but a failure jams the lock, giving the door the "stuck" quality. ![]()
If a PC can keep re-trying a Disable Device check to pick a lock. What's the point of having locked doors? In my view there has to be a risk and reward to each obstacle:
I can see the point of stuck doors - they may provoke a wandering monster of some sort - and trapped doors, but not locked doors. It seems that all they do is slow the game down. If you have a rogue with a decent bonus, pretty much all doors will be opened with enough checks. I was thinking of giving XP rewards for picking locks but that just seems like free XP if they can keep re-rolling. Any advice? ![]()
Just need a bit of advice please. A group of 5 PCs all 1st level, come across an "Epic encounter". This could be:
Obviously, more monsters means more chances for them to kill the PCs. What is a good maximum number of monsters to use for one encounter? ![]()
Sissyl wrote: WBL is Wealth By Level, the guidelines for the suggested amount of money a character should have at a certain level that debuted in 3.0. Ah right, thanks. I suppose, in a way, if you use the rule of 1 gp = 1 xp, as is suggested and don't stray too far from that (in terms of giving out treasure), you might be able to get away with it that way. ![]()
Digitalelf wrote: Another such article on "Old school Gaming", by the same people that made the 0e retro-clone "Swords & Wizardry" can be found (on PDF for free) HERE... Excellent! Downloaded and ready to read! I like reading about the old stuff. ***kmal2t wrote: Speaking of 2e MM nothing was better than how awful the drawings were and the infamous "Invisible Stalker" ...just a picture of a blank page. It was so overwhelmingly lame it could make even the grumpiest gamer laugh. Ha ha! Noticed that the other day, did a double-take! ![]()
DrGames wrote:
Thanks, I read your article, it explained some things for me :D ![]()
see wrote: Dungeon Master's Guide, Table 55. Page 99 if you have the original 2e DMG, dunno what page if you have the black border. Treat the "creature level" as more-or-less equivalent to a CR. Remember that judgment calls may be required. Thanks, how did I miss that! ***Sissyl wrote: Finally, since there were no WBL guidelines, the total amount of treasure doled out varied wildly. What's WBL mean? ***Haladir wrote: And the wandering monster tables, especially for wilderness adventuring, would often turn up a monster that COMPLETELY outlcassed the PCs. Running away in that situation would be the only way to survive the encounter. I like that, though. For me, just because characters aren't powerful enough, it doesn't mean powerful creatures should be "wiped from the earth". I think it makes it feel more real, more dangerous, and more rewarding when you get back "home" in one piece. ***I've been reading the Dungeon Master's Guide from 1e aswell, and it's actually been answering some of the niggling little questions that arose from reading the 2E rules. As "all-over-the-place" as the rules are in 1E, it actually explains stuff more clearly/thoroughly in my view. ![]()
Stefan Hill wrote:
I think I'm just going to stick to the core books for a while. One of the reasons I chose to go with 2E is because I want to play the game completely from the imagination. Every instance of the game I've played so far has involved major visual cues: 3E, 4E, and some of the computer games. 3rd was my first ruleset and, reading the 2E books, I sometimes forget that they're written from the point-of-view of playing from the imagination. It's hard to turn that off when it's all I've ever known. So just trying to start out as simple as possible and see how it pans out. ![]()
Bill Dunn wrote: I'm getting the impression that learning just from reading a text may not be your optimal learning style, but that you do better engaging in communication to work through the concepts. If that's true, keep the questions coming, we're happy to help. Thanks for that :) Some rules can be interpreted in different ways, I just like to see what everyone else is doing and figured it best to ask experienced players who will more likely have the best answers/advice :D*** Kthulhu wrote: Sorry if I came off as rude or grumpy. No probs, you didn't :) ***I asked the errata question as I spotted a few typos in some of the Monster entries (such as Undead Beholder XP Value of 13,0000!). Just wondered if there was anything major that needed changing. Anyone know if there is a list of monsters by HD or XP Value? If not, I'm going to type them out in a spreadsheet. ![]()
Dread wrote:
I like those ideas, thanks for them. On a different note - any idea where I can find any errata for the MM? ![]()
Joshua Goudreau wrote:
Thanks, that's a good idea. Kobolds are 1/2 HD by-the-way ;) ![]()
Glad you both like it, maybe you can give me some advice on how to create an encounter that's not too overwhelming and not too easy. Did a mock-combat lastnight between a fighter, wizard, cleric, and thief vs. 8 kobolds. The mage took one out with a magic-missile, the cleric clubbed one to death, the fighter scythed one down with his sword. Then the Mage was taken out by a well placed javelin, the thief went down, the cleric was next, but managed to cast cure light wounds on the weakened fighter just before he went down, leaving the fighter (4 hp left) with 5 kobolds to deal with. Needless to say - Game Over. I was thinking about using the XP values of monsters to build encounters, similar to what Pathfinder does, but not sure of what XP ranges the difficulty of an encounter would fall within. ![]()
Stefan Hill wrote:
Yes, for me 1e is too confusing - rules all over the place. The amount of skills puts me off of 3e. 2e is a nice balance with optional extras. 4e is too mini-focused and monsters have way too many HPs. Nice red-head ;) ![]()
Stefan Hill wrote:
:D I understand what he's saying I just like to make sure I'm doing things vaguely right. ![]()
I will quote a section from the Kobold stat block to help with my question: Monstrous Manual (Kobold entry) wrote: DAMAGE/ATTACK: 1-4 or 1-6 (by weapon) AND Monstrous Manual (Kobold entry) wrote:
This leaves me with three options: a) Do I have to choose a weapon from their combat entry that does either 1d4 or 1d6 damage?
Hoped I've worded this question alright. I want to determine which weapon each monster is using (if any) so that players can loot their weapons if they want to. Does anyone do this or is it a waste of time? ![]()
Thanks for the answers people :D Alzrius wrote:
Do you mean using other sourcebooks? I'm just using the core classes for now. ![]()
gourry187 wrote: I include the weight of coin ... 50 coins = 1 pound Thanks, wasn't sure whether it would be a hassle keeping track with the PCs constantly picking coins up throughout an adventure. LazarX wrote: And this has what to do with the topic? Shallowsoul probably has three threads on your question by now, why don't you go check them out? Sorry Mr. Policeman. Since the question and answer to the "topic" are at the very top of the thread, didn't think it would be an issue. Besides, the answer had been given by the time you posted that so, no point really. Chemlak wrote:
Thanks for the tip.
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