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Personally would like to see something akin to the Path of War classes, though how the various Manoeuvres would work in the bounds of the 3 Action economy is a question.

Thematically a Warder isn't that far off Champion, though won't be able to keep the +AC aura or the AoO relating abilities it has. Harbinger is also an interesting one, playing off of using Curse abilities to hamper foes. Warlord isn't that far from Swashbuckler in spirit, so could be archetype maybe.

Otherwise, could see the Manoeuvre list becoming streamlined by taking advantage of the Heightened framework given by spells. Sticking point might be the Stances as 2E would want those kept in Feats, but perhaps chance for some more Focus Point Stances like the Monk has?


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aobst128 wrote:
We need a kobold iconic at some point. Have they done an iconic with an uncommon ancestry yet?

Tengu Oracle

Kobold Catgirl wrote:

No edge. At all.

Also, I have made this comparison so often I feel silly about it, but it's the best example of "big head small eyes cute" I have. Mouse Guard's approach would be really nice for kobolds.

With regards Cactus Leshy, true enough. Suppose more spiky than edged, at least.

As for the Mouse Guard angle, can see where coming from. Especially if expand out to some of the more odd dragons for Exemplars.


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Kobold Catgirl wrote:

Leshies literally have no edge. They're little soft round flower babies.

Even the Cactus Leshies?

Kobold Catgirl wrote:
Personally, I would prefer kobolds get a slight art update to make them a little cuter before they become a PC race. I mean, they're cute now, but I think they'd be cuter if they had rounder bodies and huge pupils. Maybe a little fluff/feathers on a heritage.

Perhaps Kobolds with Coatl as their Draconic Exemplar for the feather angle? Otherwise guess some of the Planar or Imperial dragons might work perhaps.

As for the rounder with big eyes, bit like some of the middle ones?. Old doodles, sorry for quality, but guessing general idea.


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Deriven Firelion wrote:

You mean you're not an amazingly artistic person? That was the primary association of being left-handed when I was growing up. If you were left-handed, you were more likely to be creative and an artist.

Other than that, no one much cared. That was back in the 1970s.

I'm aware of the word sinistral and the word sinister being associated with being left-handed. But it has nothing to do with the drow and their creation.

School during the 90s and 2000s in UK, mostly managed to avoid the main baggage. Teachers mostly kept it to grumbling over occasional smudging which getting a more suited pen helped fix. Pain getting a decent pair of scissors though. Fencers also get grouchy if you're left handed, but true of anyone who's facing an uncommon situation in sport I'd figure.

Whilst I do draw or what not, I'm...leery of saying more than that considering skill levels. Personally suspect it's more a result of having a creative parent than handedness and associated brain hemisphere.

As for the rest, more of a general interest thing than necessarily saying "this is why x".


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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


In some circles, the innate ambidexterity of drow was a coded message about the inherent 'shiftiness' of the race.

'Ya can't even trust them to use the right hand.'

Before anyone jumps on me, this bugged me more than the skin pigmentation, as up until very recently left-handed people were treated like they were untrustworthy and unreliable.

Still happens in some places.

Not even 100 years for America at that.

In turn, whilst we do have tropes such as "A Sinister Clue" for when a character's immorality or potential deviousness is supposedly hinted by their being left handed, it's...kind of interesting how little it comes up as an aspect of various fictional settings, despite all the other things transplanted from the real world on some level. Would it break people's suspension of disbelief, I wonder, or would portraying such practices negatively impact sales in places that still have such attitudes?

Apologies to natter, any event. Being lefty myself, always been somewhat interesting navigating the silly associations that come with it.


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Grankless wrote:
Intercessor sounds nice but I'm not sure of the context.

Quick Google states that an intercessor is "Someone who intervenes on behalf of another, especially by prayer".

Admittedly I should have included that in the first place, apologies.

Other idea may be Arbiter, though that's more "general judgement" than necessarily divine. Zealot is somewhat unlikely to work as that tends to be viewed as a negative quality or descriptor. Using one of the angel hierarchies probably too specific (eg Powers, Thrones, Virtues etc) and narrow.


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Not sure if it'd entirely fit, or be too specific, but could Intercessor work as possible alternative?