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I am still pretty optimistic about 2e, but the discourse here has beaten me down a bit. There is definitely a lot of hyperbole and a fair amount of people speaking for everyone or flippantly. It isn't just the negative people, but the state of debate here is pretty disheartening.

You should expect discussion to be more focussed on flaws than successes, sure. And of course, forums are for diehard partisans, not the average consumer. I just think the tone people take has been very tiring, and could be a lot more productive.

There are some people making some fantastic posts about why certain aspects of the rules should change though. I am enthused by that, and I have trust in the devs to look towards those posts for direction.


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My take-aways are:
1. I really wish they had actually killed Vancian magic: I hate that system, and don't really want to play any class that uses it. This would have been a massive positive for me. I cannot overstate how much I dislike playing a vancian caster.

2. I think they have a different picture of what healing should be like than I do. I'd like to see a lot more flexability in the 'who' and 'how' healing, especially out of combat, than they seem to.

3. I don't think an item boosting resonance sounds good to me. I could be wrong, but it seems just as artificial feeling and I am still unsure it is addressing the right issue. Resonance as an item slot replacement is nice.


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I think that sorcerers deserve a place thematically. I really wish they would just axe Vancian casting though. I am sure it has its fans, but I haven't met them. I have two groups and no one in either will play any of the vancian classes any more. The group that started with 5e is confused by their existance in general.

It makes less sense to them lore-wise, and the "analysis paralysis" another poster refered to is real.

Vancian magic is one of the things I was most hopeful about them killing off for 2e. I prefer just about every varient system I've used.


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I have less experience than most here, as getting together with my group is rare these days, but:

Likes:
1. 3 action economy - I agree with basically everyone on this.
2. Class feats - Being able to choose my progression is great, it makes archetypes work nicely and I am excited for the options it opens to developers.
3. Tighter math - I actually enjoy the evening out of the numbers quite a bit, though I understand why this is contentious. Proficiency system and +/- 10 system is rolled into this.

Dislikes:
1. Too many class locked feats - Especially combat styles. I feel like this is a big mistake, and an easy one to fix. I simply think they have gone a bit too far here, and they are cutting off too many options for players.
2. Magic weapon dice - As others have said, it seems too much like my weapon is the star here. I know pathfinder has and follows a tradition of strong magic items, but I prefer to feel like my character is the source of my strength more than his sword.
3. Healing - I think this is really more of a core problem than resonance, though I agree resonance has major issues. I didn't like the pile of wands of cure light wounds, but I also don't think v2 has a good system. Lots of interesting suggestions on the forum here. I like making the heal skill good, and/or having useful healing rituals.