Alex Smith 908 wrote:
Hey Alex where did you find your information on the contrasting views of child abandonment Greek vs Egyptian ? Interesting stuff.
Cole Deschain wrote:
Hmm. But isn't that illustrative of an prejudice that if you look good you cannot be all bad.
I really dig the cover and want to like it after Skulls and Shackles was such fun. But many of the vessel seem like themes already a little over done. I really wish instead of Grey Corsairs, Hell Knights and Asmodeus worshipers we could have gotten creative vessels from some of the less touched regions of the inner sea.
Not angry but a little disappoint. Paizo I am sure does a good job covering the interests of its costumer base. But I was really hoping for something different its more typical fantasy adventure path. I feel that there is still so much of the world left that has not been covered without revisiting similar themes.
I would too or even selective reverse of some growth over time.
What I find most disturbing is that fleshgrinder sees everything as externalities in his pursuit of utopian godhood. You do realize you are just one species of animal which is waging the most destructive genocidal war ever on every other species of life on its home word?
I never said that they didn’t have respected individuals, what I did say is that no one individual or class of individuals had the ability to force non consequential decisions on someone. Can you really claim to understand them in two seconds of google fu that it took to find something that seemed to support your hypothesis. Unfortunate this is exactly the reason I was reluctant to comment.For example you never attempted to know them well enough to realized that headman don’t exist in semai society that it was just a convenient term of reference, that such houses are communal property and that the headman they are referring to is a temporary mediator chosen because of mutual respect the individuals have in him. And indeed the very basis of this mutual trust is that the individual is known for not seeking authority which is the quickest way to loose respect in semai and be ignored. Also note the outcome is a verb warning with no consequence because no one has that authority.
I provided these examples to hope that you were genuinely interested in exploring the possibility of societies without authority and what could be learned from the example they offer.
I am not glib and am timid much like the semai so I will leave this discussion to other people.
Well as DD said essentially any band society had no leader with more then consensual authority. So there were at least hundreds at one time. For example most subartic and artic natives of my country. A couple peoples whom immediately spring to mind would be the semai, and paliyans.
Very off topic. While I differ on many opinions of DD he is right that there are societies that have no government in in the context which Scott Betts and Ciretose refer to. An Individual or class of individuals using force to cause compliance.
Abraham spalding wrote:
I hope if is just a simply over sight or maybe you don't consider it recent, but 11.1% of the total population of north korea killed in the korean war, 3 million dead north vietnamese and the undetermined number (over 1 million) of dead iraqis of 2 wars, sanctions and radioactive waste are not a small or acceptable number.While I know for many of you it is your country and you might be inclined to view it with a forgiving eye, but I cannot hold nations to such low standards. And that it is human nation is not an answer. There have been many anthropological studies showing that while small in numbers that there are many societies that would not imagine inflicting that scale of violence on even an aggressor.
I would suggest watching: Taxi to the dark side. It is very enlightening viewing on who is collected, the value of the individuals collected and how they are handled.
Also it my impression that psionic advocates aren't beholden to power points. But what they don't want is to be just another type of sorcerer. I know myself if it was done as variety of at will spell like abilities of a weaker nature then the equivalent spell caster could I would fine. Or into a well made ki point caster who’s powers weren't tried to slots but gained as the character advanced levels for example.
Psionics is as medieval and fantasy as swords or dragons. But why it doesn't seem so is the historical oddity of Europe being under the control of a monotheistic religion which didn't allow for alternative belief systems. Essentially psionics are how people who have monist elements to there belief systems explain the occurrence of controllable supernatural happenstances.
I would suggest that the easiness or difficulty of any given encounter has a lot to do with DMs and their playing style. Some brutally adhere to the rules and die rolls. Some DMs are tactically wizards who have maximized every detail of an encounter.
It is best not think in terms of alignment but of the interactions in our own daily lives or people we know who have close relationships with people of different morals. The key is for the characters to entwine their histories.
Second edition has a very warm spot in my heart. Not only was it the first gaming system which I gamed under but it suited my style of DMing as well. Being able to work just for a bare bones outline and flesh it out as the pcs delved in.
The Democratic Party in the United States today is, at its most radical, a centrist party as far as the rest of the world's concerned. So please, do not tell me that leftist extremists are corrupting the political dialogue in our country today. That is simply impossible, because there is no American left worth speaking about.
That mirrors my feelings as a non American listening to the political discourse coming from the states. The political landscape there seem so incredibly narrow, and focused at the right side of the spectrum. Actually leftists views being akin to hearsay in the contemporary political arena.
What disappoints me isn't Damiel's race but that he is the cliche; Oh he is CN and therefore must be insane. His Back story seems to be tailored to his alignment rather then vice versa.
Oh well still three more iconics on their way :)
I am heavily tempted not to interject because I am never going to alter any ones long held convictions. Yahoo futility!
Part of the reason why alignment is such a messy topic to discuss is that it is dimension extend far beyond the game. Good and evil are something we all experience and observe and have a concept related as to how we live our lives. Most people tend to believe themselves good. Instead of reflection on our behaviours and connecting with the perspective of the individuals they have harmed (whether the 60 carnival goers, the hijacked plane passengers, the inhabitants of Hiroshima etc) the create an elaborate web work of rationalizations to cut those they have harmed or call the enemy from the rest of humanity where it becomes justifiable to do "necessary" evils as several of the comments have pointed out.
What people making such judgements don't realize is that is the same sort of logic which the BBG/terrorist/conquerors themselves us.
For example if it was Imperial japan dropping an atomic bomb on Los Angeles, New York or else where to avoid a costly land invasion would not Xpltvdeleted angurment not hold water for them as well? Or for that matter terriorist blowing themselves up along with passers by to kill their military opponent, as there opponent placed themselves admidst throng.