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...and I'm being shipped the soft cover version.

Paizo, if you're going to do this in the future, you need a better way for subscribers to select it.

Seconded. I'm very annoyed by this. It isnt the first time something like this has happened, and Paizo needs to do better by their subscribers.

Awakened Animal as a playable race?

Wellp. Time to live out my fantasy as Sif from the souls games -- just not as debilitatingly depressing.

This is great.

Love the way the books introduce new rules and mechanics.

...Maybe it's right that, about 17 to 18 years into Pathifnder's life, this happened. It's kind of like a child becoming an adult and moving out of their parent's house to strike out into the world on their own...

IN THIS ECONOMY?!

I kid. I just kind of chuckled to myself at this, but it is genuinely a satisfying response to the questions of "Why and why now?".

Thanks for everything that you and the team at Paizo are doing, James. The folks I play with were pretty stoked to hear about the Cavern Elves getting their own cultural name of Ayindilar and myself and another buddy I play with were all-in on the Hryngar and their whole societal structure built on manipulation and ulterior motives.

I will say that I'm sad for the folks who held Drow near and dear to their hearts, including it would seem, you yourself. But changing decades-old ideas doesn't happen in a day. Hopefully folks will come around, but if not, that's okay too. Change isn't easy, and is rarely accepted by all with open arms. But change is also often-times necessary, and I trust in the leadership of Paizo to steer the ship clear of icebergs, so to speak.

This PaizoCon was easily my favorite so far, so thank you all again for everything. Now give me a Stonelord champion archetype with all of this Dwarf content! (I'll accept Stalwart Defender as a stopgap while you all figure out the logistics of translating Stonelord from 1e to 2e :P)

The more I look at these reveals, the more I start hoping for a Golarian-based version of the old (3e) Draconomicon. Not sure if the market would support it, but I think it would a great way to showcase some of the diferences and changes that Paizo is bringing to PF2e.

I am so on board for this! I still have my Draconomicon from back then and love referencing it for ideas!

Oh gosh these are gorgeous, I can't wait to see them in color.

IDk but I imagine a quest where the party had to steal from or parlay with an illusion dragon to get a mythical mirror. Perhaps one that is especially helpful against fighting a mythical medusa, or perhaps the mirror is a portal to a plane or mirror dimension and need to go there to save a friend.

Or talk about a really cool way to introduce a Thaumaturge's Mirror implement for a player.

MiqoRems wrote:

The thing is, while I agree that people looking at a product specifically because they're a Paizo fan are more likely to want a CRPG than an ARPG- and you also have to take into consideration then midrange or casual fans that would buy *either* or *both* if both existed... on top of which, ARPGs are an ENORMOUSLY wider market outside the roleplayer base. Even if you take the assumption of "Paizo fans that will buy a CRPG" > "Paizo fans that will buy an ARPG" to be definitively true (which I'm not convinced is the case), "Paizo fans that will buy a CRPG + Non-fans that will buy a CRPG" is almost certainly lower than "Fans that will buy an ARPG + non-fans that will buy an ARPG".

Of course, debating over that is fairly pointless; we'll have empirical evidence of what sort of interest there is once the Kickstarter goes live!

As I said I don't think it will have zero appeal, but an ARPG is a much harder sell, and to far fewer people than all the folks here who love Pathfinder as an I.P and RPG's in general and who would have gone nuts for another CRPG.

Some may even argue an ARPG is an RPG as its in the name, but as I said in my first post ARPG's are a dumbing down on all levels of what is a beautiful game to begin with you lose the complexity and joy for the sake of FX. It's tantamount to an RPG being given the Michael Bay effect lol Sure it will look impressive and be all showy, but underneath the Fx its still amounts to a simplification of an awesome I.p.

And then you have the issue of (and again like I said) what will set this ARPG apart from the others of an already saturated market, with some LONg established favorites already. there have been lots of ARPG's and they have almost all vanished into obscurity outside of Diablo and PoE.

The video didn't really show anything to set it aside other than the fact it is using the Pahtfinder I.p and that doesn't matter to most computer game fans unless they also happen to be Pathfinder fans and most of those are going...

As an avid ARPG player with thousands of hours into the genre (6000 in PoE alone) we as a community are always on the lookout for a new flavor to whet our appetites with.

I have those kinds of hours in other ARPGs and I am very excited to get my hands on this PF offering.

I also don't think it's going to offer a similar experience to Diablo/PoE/LE/TQ/GD/L-M-N-O-P. I feel as though this game is going to re-tap the market that left a void when games like Gauntlet left a void.

I'd also like to point out that selling Pathfinder to pathfinder fans isn't a hard sell. People who post online are not the majority, they are often, if not always in the minority -- vocal though they are; and this is even more contextually relevant here on the Paizo forums, which are admittedly obscure and arcane when compared to something more accessible, like Reddit (which still only houses a minority of the voices in the community).

Paizo tapping this unexpected genre is a great boon, because it will sell to many people outside the typical scope of the game's reach.

There are a lot of people who did not/do not know that Pathfinder is a TTRPG system, but they played the Owlcat games, and now they at least have the brand recognition.

This offering will cast a net in a different part of the 'ocean' of players, and bring new people into the brand who wouldn't have given a cRPG a second glance.

There is a lot of "main character-ing" going on here, to "verb the noun", and I think a lot of people forget that they don't speak for the community, in spite of what they perceive. A fair amount of us posting online are excited, and I am positive that a great amount of people not keeping up on the news will be just as excited when they finally see a preorder go up or any kind of marketing begin.

Voice your dissent -- that's fine, but definitely gotta stop acting like you are the voice of the people.

McMoogle wrote:

Day 1 backer on this. I am super hype for it!

Let's gooo! This is how Diablo got its start. A megadungeon that you slowly delve the depths of.

Gonna be an awesome time as a couch co op experience.

I'm a bit taken aback by the not-zero amount of people here who are part of this community built around a social gaming experience that are not happy about it being a co-op game.

Blows my mind.

I've learned the official Paizo website is a very poor reflection of the Paizo community as a whole. You'll find a lot more modern and fresh views on other social sites tbh. On the topic of the game, this looks rad as hell, but sad Merisiel doesn't appear to be here considering she's in the art for the AP. Poor Kyra is gonna be lonely lol.

Haha I thought the same thing about Merisiel! I was like how are you gonna have Kyra and not let them defend one another!

Still I think it will be a great time. My buddy will definitely play Harsk, and my g/f will likely play as Kyra. I saw Amiri's Spin to Win and I was all in on her.

Well, looks like I'm not getting any work done from 12-2 on that Friday. >.>

Day 1 backer on this. I am super hype for it!

Let's gooo! This is how Diablo got its start. A megadungeon that you slowly delve the depths of.

Gonna be an awesome time as a couch co op experience.

I'm a bit taken aback by the not-zero amount of people here who are part of this community built around a social gaming experience that are not happy about it being a co-op game.

Blows my mind.

Personally, d4s are one of my favorite dice to roll because of their definitive, sharp "click" when they land. They feel different! That's what a magic missile feels like!

You have to make sure they tumble in the air, usually by quickly moving your hand before release to give them that spin.

I'm starting to feel like I'm the only person who uses a dice cup to tumble my dice before emptying it into the dice tray...

Ohhh, yes. I had complete tracking, including post office tracking details. (again, unlike January shipment when it never got into the PO system)

Ny packages never get further than this. Its really annoying. Every paizo order every time never gets tracking info.

I hate Mail Innovations :/

EDIT:

I think the text has to be divided more clearly. Instead of saying all the activation shenanigans at the top, perhaps they should be with the relevant Ability. Something like this:

Cloak of Elvenkind:
(Flavor Text)
- While invested you may cast Ghost Sound cantrip as if it was prepared.
- [A] Operate: Put or remove the hood. You gain a bonus to Stealth when its put.
- [A] Activate: Spend 1 resonance point to gain the benefit of Invisibility for 4 minutes or until you remove the hood, whichever comes first.

THIS

SO MUCH THIS

Magic Items are going to be a PITA to figure out if they are not explicitly formatted this way. I had no frigging idea what required investing, what required RP to gain benefits, etc.

This is poorly formatted as is, and it should really be looked at.