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Thanks,we have always played using the "threatened area" instead "square" XD this make some tactics and feats MORE usefull XD

Hi,i wanted to ask some clarifications about AoP,movements etc

Example:
if a fighter with a sword charge something with,lets say, 3 square of reach

he provoke AoP for leaving that 2 threatened squares? or only normal movements count?

For free hands recharge bow/crossbow:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abil ities/endless-ammunition

Or you could get evolved summons a bunch of times. Also real cheese.

druid 15° >.< evolved summons apply only at summon monster

that too,but normally,that "force of will" bleeding,and bleed immunity how work from rules?i just cant use it?

How would you have Oracle 20 with any Holy Vindicator levels?

20 oracle,5 paladin,3 holy vindicator.

fast question/clarification,as a life oracle 20 (becomes immune to bleed),with some levels at holy vindicator,i cant use the stigmata power?

Stigmata:
A vindicator willingly gives his blood in service to his faith, and is marked by scarified wounds appropriate to his deity. At 2nd level, he may stop or start the flow of blood by force of will as a standard action; at 6th level it becomes a move action, and at 10th level it becomes a swift action. Activating stigmata causes bleed damage equal to half the vindicator’s class level, and this bleed damage is not halted by curative magic. While the stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator gains a sacred bonus (if he channels positive energy) or profane bonus (if he channels negative energy) equal to half his class level. Each time he activates his stigmata, the vindicator decides if the bonus applies to attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, Armor Class, caster level checks, or saving throws; to change what the bonus applies to, the vindicator must deactivate and reactivate his stigmata. While his stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator ignores blood drain and bleed damage from any other source and can use bleed or stabilize at will as a standard action.

RAW I'm not sure if the +4 STR/CON from augment is a fixed numerical bonus to an aspect of the spell because it modifies the creature(s) summoned by the spell and not the spell itself, but at the cost of 5 feats and 1 skill point per level I would probably allow it

6 feat,dont forget spell focus xD

Title say everything,i have found this feat reading this forum,and before start another long discussion with master and player,i want to ask:

if i apply Extend Spell to my druid with Summon nature ally 8,with augmenting summon (+4 str/cos) and have Spell perfection http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/spell-perfection

my summoned creature (single for the 8,1d3 for 7th,1d4+1 for 6th) would get +8 str/cos?

Hello,we have a little discussion here about Shield Master feat.

Shield Master (Combat)
Your mastery of the shield allows you to fight with it without hindrance.

Benefit: You do not suffer any penalties on attack rolls made with a shield while you are wielding another weapon. Add your shield’s enhancement bonus to attack and damage rolls made with the shield as if it were a weapon enhancement bonus.

The discussion start from the Faq:

Q: Does Shield Mastery remove the penalties for all attacks if you are using a non-shield weapon and a shield and two-weapon fighting? Or does it only remove the penalties for the shield attack?

A: Shield Mastery only removes the penalty for Two Weapon Fighting on the Shield Bash itself, it does not remove it for a non-Shield weapon in your other hand.

So for the question (we are from italy,and maybe was just a mistraduction or something like this):

Does Shield Master remove ALL the penalietes from the SHIELD BASH attack (TWF,Power Attack,etc etc,and keep them for the non-bash attacks), or just the penalietes from TWF from the BASH?

The sacrifice of feats is not worth it.

yea,but with the 2 weapons,armor,belt,etc etc, 880k isnt enought for everything,and what i can get instead of those 3 feats?

Why are you taking craft feats?

How are you meeting the prerequisites for them without a caster level?

need alot of items for the build,and i have this one for craft as a fighter

Exotic Weapon Proficiency(Falcata)?

yep

edited the build with it

What is the "competence falcata" feat?

the feat for use weapon you normally cant use without malus,forgot how is called in english XD

Trying to improve this build

Race not really know,maybe tiefling
full buckler duelist fighter

STR 34
DEX 20
CON 24
INT 20
WIS 14 (maybe highter if i have some money after the shopping)
cha 15

Feats not in order of aquisition
improved initiative
power attack
Exotic Weapon Proficiency(Falcata)
weapon focus falcata
weap focus buckler
penetrating strike
merciless strike
craft feat
armor craft
wondrus craft

fighter feat:
improved bullrush
spiked destroyer
greater penetrating strike
combat reflex
weapon specialization falcata
two-weapon fight
improved two-wepn fight
improved shield bash
shield slam
shield master
bashing finish

falcata +5 with impact,keen (maybe defending)
buckler+5 with clangorus,dueling

Falcata to hit: 40/35/30/25 17-20x4 2d6+45
Buckler: 47/47/42/42/37/37/32/32 20x2 1d4+38

free bullrush with shield attack,if no wall just move trough,and 12 damage each time,and armor spike damage on the first attack,high damage falcata critical,with a free action for another shield bash

how exactly work a defending weapon? i'm fighting with a falcata and a buckler with the bukler duelist archetype.

if i put defending on the falcata,,i can move the +5 as enchantment bonus on the shield,and with the bashing feats,make the shield +10 for that round?

i have already read that arcane strike may work with tiefling,but i ask for a discussion with a friend,he is not totally sure about it,and i link him this post XD

Does Arcane Strike prerequisite work wih Tiefling,or any other race that have only a spell-like ability ,and a character level 20 (like a 20 levels of Fighter) count as full caster level for the +5 damage?

any idea on something to change or optimize?

hello again :3 i have thinked this new funny build of a falcata+buckler fighter with some extra

25 point buy, tiefling demon-spawn (+2str/cha -int)

STR 34
DEX 20
COS 24
INT 20
WIS 16
CHA 10

Feats: (not in order)
improved initiative
power atatck
competence falcata
weapon focus falcata
weapon focus buckler
penetrating strike
quick draw
craft feat
craft feat
craft feat

Fighter feats: (not in order)
***something for a free feat,maybe deadly aim****
arcane strike
greater penetrating strike
combat reflex
weapon specialization falcata
2 weapon fight
improved 2 weap fight
improved shield bash
shield slam
shield master
banishing finish

to hit:
40/35/30/25 with falcata, 17-20 x4 critical, 2d6+45
47/47/42/42/37/37/32/32 with buckler, critical 20 x2, 1d4+37

if i have done the right math.

plus a +1 anchoring battleaxe for the first attack when in open space (the bad thing abound shield slam with no walls XD)

looks good and fun. enjoy, oh do you know if the GM plans on using mythic rules if so you could actual drop the 2nd improved eldrich heritage? the mythic version eldrich heritage give you all the blood line powers with one feat super sweet.

dont think they know the mythic rules for now,i try to make them know,and maybe use for future games :3

another new build XD

10 2-H fighter/10 trap-guide ranger

STR 32
DEX 20
CON 20
INT 20
WIS 24
CHA 15

improved initiative
competence falcata
weapon focus falcata
deadly aim
skill focus stealth
Master Craftsman
craft wondrus item
craft weapon/armor
eldrich eritage shadow
eldrich eritage for the shadow lvl 9 ability

for fighter:
point blank shot
combat reflex
weapon specialization falcata
rapid shot
arcane strike
weapon focus longbow composite

ranger:
power attack
furios focus
improved sunder

attacks:

falcata
40/34*/29/24/19 critical 17-20x3 *with speed
damage: 3d6+56 / 9d6+168 critical

bow
26/26/21/16/11
damage: 1d8+34

i think to have done all the calculation in the right way

I normaly do not kill my kids in the game as they are 8(d) 9(d) 10(s) 13(s) but the oldest and youngest did something so stuppid that even when I told them that they should not be starting this fight that they did and as a result they both died.

I am honest I am not sure how powerfull a eidolon is so that is why I am asking and yes she is the youngest but she is the best of the 4 and even the one most likly to become a power gamer both in this and in vidoe games.

eidolon is like the druid with an animal companion (the evoker) XD

lol^^XD

My exact reply after a night making her character ><

As I said,she started to play one and half year ago,the lol 25fighter was made from her alone,and we had take a break from campaign for now for some casual for fun games,but she changed for a rogue now,she have read all the bard and wanted to change the class XD plus we missing the barbarian,so I switched to a full armored dps

"things" XD

without alot of focus,i got like +40 on intimidate,but after changed deadly stroke and later shatter defense,i have removed it. well,maybe i dump a bit of wis to pull up cha. and yea,maybe something for a ranged attack (already have an adaptive bow with seeking and endless ammunition from the first build) and that +5 damage on every weapon sound very good :P

eldrich heritage shadow requires at least 15 CHA.

thanks,missed it,have made some changes in the late night xD

ok,removed shatter defense tree too,forgot now i have a full bab with better stats.
i can get greater cleave from ranger combat style without learn cleave?

don't waste your time on dazzing display or shatter defense they are not worth the feat and take 2 to 3 rounds to pull off. your not getting sneak attack so no need in doing those two at all. on the original build I would have did more fighter levels and did mobile fighter 11 levels or more then the rest Scout. eventual you can get sneak attack almost all the time. but even then sneak attack is not worth it. I noticed it when I play tested a Slayer. with a very similar build using a nodci. deep down Deadly stroke line really sucks. it take to long to pull off and by the time you do it, the fight is either over, and 1 point of con does absolutely nothing, you have to do 2 points for it to even do anything. Vital strike is better, and full attack is better then vital strike

blackbloodtroll is on the money.

i'm not focusing on dazzing display,i just combo shatter defense with the bonus dreadful carnage from ranger when we have to fight multiple enemies,having a very high intimidate,and for the 3 free feats slot,i was thinking on the 2 cleave and lunge (with the large from pauldrons) for some good extermination :3

ok,the bard girl have changed to rogue,and i have removed deadly stroke tree,but keeped the shatter defense one,and now i have 3 free slot,plus maybe a combo with guide ranger archetype

So,the new build looks like this:

STR 32
DEX 20
CON 20
INT 24
WIS 24
CHA 8

equip more or less the same

feats:

improved initiative
competence falcata
weapon focus falcata
dazzing display
skill focus stealth
Master Craftsman
craft wondrus item
craft weapon/armor
eldrich eritage shadow
eldrich eritage for the shadow lvl 9 ability

for fighter:
shatter defense
combat reflex
weapon specialization falcata
improved trip
felling smash
vital strike

ranger:
power attack
furios focus
dreadful carnage

attacks:

42/34*/29/24/19 critical 17-20x3 *with speed
damage: 3d6+51 / 6d6+51+trip with vital strike / 9d6+153 critical

if i use Juggernaut’s pauldron +2 damage and 1d6 more

if i'm correct

is better a vital strike tree instead deadly stroke,for start/single hit moment?

hmm or maybe is better to change deadly stroke tree in something better

like a free or swift intimidate (maybe area xD) check before dreadful carnage take effect

and,anything that can make deadly stroke more useful? over stunning assault,stunning critical and shatter defense? work as a standard move against a flat-footed or stunned enemy

Spells are nice, but some prefer spelless. It is a matter of taste.

Now, when I did this, I basically took information from this, and this thread, and combined the two.

It might not be your style, but it worked great for me.

What particular things are you looking to do?

What do you want to be good at?

i have to find trap, be sneaky,and i'm the main dps,as the other melee one is a barbarian that master another adventure for us,and we play this one when he cant come for now,the other are a gunslinger,bard,cleric and sorcerer. maybe we have a paladin (gm girlfriend,but i dont know what character she exactly use,and she is at the start)

Kevincondor wrote:

what about 10/10, and fighter twohand archetype,with ranger 2H feats tree?

Works, but loses out on skills.

Personally, I'd also argue Urban Ranger over Trapper. Spells are nice to have, especially Instant Enemy. If doing that, more Ranger and less Fighter is good.

too bad urban cant fit in,we are death,in hell if i remember right (the game idea started some months ago xD)

That's decent combo.

Oni-Spawn Tiefling is good for this.

and for the stat,are good like this(maybe the same dex-str after the onispawn,for the lose of armor training)

what about 10/10, and fighter twohand archetype,with ranger 2H feats tree?

Slayer is from Advanced Class Guide.

It is in playtest, and can be downloaded for free here.

dont know if master let me do it,we are only with core,advanced,the 2 ultimate and the iswg manual,but the fighter/guide-trapper ranger looks good on the paper :O

Trapper Ranger can disable magical traps.

No loss of BAB either.

btw what is the slayer? never seen it

oh yea,the high point/levels too (hide,intimidate,acrobatics,magic items,and some trick like this)

Dump Rogue levels.

Replace with Trapper Ranger, or Slayer levels.

slayer?

any advice on this for make it a bit better maybe?

Kevincondor wrote:

didnt say anything about being male or female xD

Kevincondor wrote:

hello ^^ can i ask for a fast help on how to make a lvl 20 bard easy to play for a girl that play with us,and is pretty newby to the game?

(emphasis mine) You did say but I suppose you didn't mean anything other than to be descriptive, still not really relevant though. Sorry if I got all SJW on you.

np ^^,well,english is not my main language,and maybe it sounded in another way when i writed it xD

Kevincondor wrote:

i know the fighter is just a thing with a big weapon that just make attack and damage rolls XD for the abilities,knoweledge etc,she have no problem in that,and since i never builded a bard,i just wanted to ask a normal buffer/debuffer support bard for the combat,like some feats,stat buy etc.

and when we start to play,i try to do the splat job with a rogue XD (i have posted the build in another post xD)

So she is aware how skill checks work, how Bardic Performance works, and how Spontaneous Spellcasters operate?

Then it's not a completely lost cause.

yea she know some easy mechanics of the game,maybe isnt at our levels,that read everything from everywhere,and come from 3.5 (someone from 3.0 too),but she can play a character,if you make her one,and tell more or less what he do,what abilities have,etc etc (this for high levels)

in this 1,5 year we have played some other oneshot,or short adventures in the range of 5-15,sometimes with a pg made from us,sometimes from herself (i remember a dancing shadow of 14 made like 80% from her,and using it pretty good too).

and,finally thankyou,thats more or less what i needed,just a simple guideline on how to make this damn support bard XD

How old are you? No offense, just curious:)

28,and i work as kitchen helper like most of the days

I'm more confused now then I was when I first responded to this.

we just finished a long campaign,and now we play short or oneshot games with some random "for fun" charachter. the 25 from 30 one was for another adventure,for this one we need to make a character lvl20 for her,and she want to do a bard,and i never done one,so just need some stat or feat suggestion for dont lose alot of time because of my work,and for dont make a shitty character,but just a useful buf/debuff character for our group

If you don't need level 20, then seriously, play lower. You can't learn how to properly play any character at a high level. Even the fighter you mentioned was likely not played like a 'proper' level 25/30 fighter would have been. Just sounds far to video-gamey to jump right to those insane levels.

Of course, it is my opinion no one would ever adventure to the point of level 20, as they'd be lording over others to do the adventuring for them at that point.

I don't think you'll get much advice on 'building a level 20' anything, because most here would agree that you never 'build a level 20' anything. You grow it from lower levels over time, and it's experiences shape how it forms.

i know that,we just finished a 1-15 campaign after like 3 years (she play with us for one and half year),and thats why we just want a little fun break,doing some 3-5 sessiong games with strange builds or test character.

so i just try to make a random bard with what i find around T_T
is just for fill a role,isnt anything to keep for future things,or play hard

didnt say anything about being male or female xD btw the game is because we want to try some new character at high level,we dont play hardcore,and the masters are player friendly,we just play for fun some random games,so isnt really important for her being lvl 1 or level 20,if she need,we do a bit of meta and tell her some option or how some abilities work

Exactly what Darksol says. It seems you want her to play a bard because it increases your ability to do damage. if she's played a fighter to 25/30... why do you need a whole level 20 bard built?

this is another game,and she wanted a bard,plus she have to learn how to play better,thats all,and as i said,i never built a bard,so i dont want to make a mess,or go into strange character build,as i normally do >.<