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If anything, half-orcs and dwarves are over represented in my groups. Dark vision is so important.

Not bad changes, always ready to try something new.

Fey foundling was the 1st feat for my Warpriest. It helped him survive to level 16. Take it for sure. s%20of%20Zatal.pdf

I wonder if anyone ever converted "Fires of Zatal"? It was Aztecy.

I missed that. Thanks for the heads up.

In our new campaign we will likely get the Mutant Template. Wings are an option.

I'm sure one exists, but I can't find it.

Enjoy and don't forget an accent. Perhaps Irish or Australian?

Sam Malone
That sharp plastic packaging around remote controls
Ben Grimm's Aunt Petunia
Charlemagne (three minutes before he died)
Undead Velcro

Firebug wrote:

Flying Blade Swashbuckler with a dagger for me. Lots of static damage and can easily switch to melee if needed.

Or dip it (for disrupting counter) and fill the rest with vigilante and pretend you are Guy Fawkes or V for Vendetta. [/QUI

Made a flying blade for Runelords. That halfling was deadly. He held a doorway against three Rune Giants....and won. Too bad the Dominated fighter cut him down from behind.

Sanctified Slayer. Dwarf or half-Orc. Fate's Favored trait for certain. Travel domain and a rapier for the crits.
Focus on a melee sword/board build. Once Bane kicks just murder everything.
Also, great skills outside combat.

NoTongue wrote:

Warcat is the best animal companion. Banned in pathfinder society for that reason. If that's not allowed then the tiger is always a strong fallback.

I would recommend Sacred Huntsmaster archetype over Hunter, trades out Judgements for animal companion and hunter aspects, very strong archetype. The buff spells from Inquisitor are better for you the player.

For feats there is a teamwork feat that when you cast a buff on yourself it will affect both you and your animal companion. Take fates favored as a trait and have your animal companion take extra traits so they can have it as well. Divine favor on both you and your animal companion will be very nasty.

Outflank is an amazing teamwork feat, recommend these as your first 2 bonus teamwork feats.

Want to get Barding for your animal companion, with an Inquisitor you can later cast magic vestment on it. [/QUOT

Wow. Exactly what I did. Good advice

Can anyone tell me some creatures I can throw at my party. Awesome blow would be great to knock them around.

I think I have to change it to one Seugathi. Even the dwarves would be screwed as it is a Su power not SL. I don't need them to hate me.

As DM I will soon see my group of six players(each Level 8) enter a room with three Seugathi that they will not be able to see until they are all well within the 30 foot Aura of Madness.

Aura of Madness (Su)

Any sane being within 30 feet of a conscious seugathi must make a DC 20 Will save each round or become confused for 1 round. A creature that fails 5 saves in a row becomes permanently insane, as per the insanity spell. A seugathi can suppress or activate this aura as a free action. This is a mind-affecting effect. The save DC is Charisma-based.

Confusion Command (Su)

As an immediate action, a seugathi can issue a telepathic command to a confused creature within 30 feet. This allows the seugathi to pick a result from the confusion behavior table, rather than the confused creature rolling randomly for its actions that round.

So, if I read this correctly each player will have to make THREE Will saves at DC 20 to have any chance of escaping or attacking. If one of the Seugathi throws out Mind Fog (DC 19) it is essentially over.

This is well within an average CR for 6 players. Has anyone had this fight before and, if so, were there any survivors?

RyanH wrote:

Thanks everyone. Given that we had only one hour, I went with Ambush in Absalom. We played it today right after school.

** spoiler omitted **

After finishing the adventure (and enjoying the funny twist at the end), they exclaimed how much they loved it and wanted to start an RPG club, or continue playing on their own. I let them know the Pathfinder Beginner Box was available in the library, and left my two pocket editions for the library to have.

A good day!

Excellent! I am glad everyone had a good time. Good job giving the pocket edition for others to use.

If a WP swift casts Invisibility Purge, will the spell have the same effect on invisible foes? Can this spell even qualify for swift cast with Fervour?


Since they are not true melee weapons I assume Chakrams don't work with a Blinkback belt. Also, the spell greater magic weapon wouldn't allow you to enchant 50 of them as you would with other projectiles and shuriken.
Seems line they fall into a sad grey area. Or am I wrong on one of these rules?


Do WP have the BAB for weapon specialization at 6th?

I second Hollow's Last Hope. First one I ever ran as DM.

70. BoogerBear: While possessing all the attributes of the common bugbear, this rare sub-species has protent allergies. It is highly allergic to its favorite prey (humans) and suffers a -2 to attack due to severe sneezing if within 10 feet of one. If it injests human flesh it must make a DC 16 Fortitude save or die.

So if they fail the intial save the incubation period begins. So when the disease activates do they get another save before any damage starts (especially important if Con damage

Get some chakrams. 1 gp each, decent range, 1d8 damage. In a pinch can be used in melee. Remember it takes two hands to load a sling.

It likely averages out once per month on Saturday evenings. Roughly 5 hour session. I am currently running Emerald Spire for 4-6 players.

As stated earlier, getting face-to-face players with schedules that synchronize is hard. One guy Skypes in; it's like Futurama with his head in a jar at one side of the table!

All our kids are about the same age. In five years the oldest of each set will be of babysitting ages; easier to play then.

As an artistically challenged DM I would prefer to draw large maps our before the session and slowly reveal them as the group explores. I've read other threads on how to some do it, but sliding cards out of the way is tricky; sometimes it reveals more than needed, even for a second.
Is there some trick I not aware of? Thanks!

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And yet another one can gibber if it wants. Pretty deadly for CR 5.

Hi, newbie DM question. The mouther has under special attacks:

Special Attacks: blood drain, engulf (6d4 damage plus 2 Con damage, AC 13, hp 4), gibbering, ground manipulation, spittle (+6 ranged touch)

If all six mouths are engaged doing the 6d4 damage to an engulfed creature, can the mouther still use its spittle attack? I would say no, but others have argued that the creature can forgo one bite on the engulfed prey (thus only 5d4 and con damage) and use a freed mouth to spittle attack. It is a fairly amorphous blob after all.


Does weapon finesse apply to 2h monk weapons? Is there written proof one way or the other? Thanks!

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HeHateMe wrote:
One thing to remember is the ACG classes are hybrids, so there is quite a bit of variation. The Arcanist is powerful because Sorcerer and Wizard are both powerful classes. Bloodrager is a mixed bag of benefits and drawbacks, while Swashbucklers and Brawlers are weak cause the classes they're based on are weak. But I agree that the CRB classes are much worse in terms of balance, you have the Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerer and Paladin, all horrendously OP, and then you have Fighters, Monks and Rogues, just weak as hell.

I just played my first Swashbuckler (flying blade) last week in the last module of ROTR. He was so overpowered I volunteered to quit playing him. Disrupting Counter with Combat Reflexes will kill any foe in melee...ask the bloody pile of dead Rune Giants.

Great, great, great ability. Overpowered perhaps.

We are on the last book of RotR and have had three TPKs....the last was five days ago. Keep at it as it gets epic soon. May I suggest an Inquisitor or Warpriest? They are decent on the front as fast healing or swift action self-buffs will save your butts

Nice, thanks.

In Wild Shape do you lose thr benefits of all rings, headgear, cloaks, amulets, etc. I know there is a wild armour property to keep it working, but what of other worn items. This is in Huge Elemental mode.


For a party of five, would it be fast or medium? Thanks!

I say Warpriest. Swift action buffs/full attacks are Amazing. My dwarf has reached level 16 and I kinda feel he is unkillable at CR fights that are not beyond my teammates.
My DM hates him.

Inquisitor, bloodrager, wizard, cleric, and maybe a bard for fun and traps.

I am planning for the group I am currently running to continue using their characters after The Emerald Spire. I am told it goes to about Level 12?

Does anyone have any suggestions for a module suitable for 5 experienced players? Wizard, cleric, barbarian, rogue, oracle.

Any non-mythic stuff with the WorldWound would be my preference.


Berti Blackfoot wrote:

I can't believe this thread is still appearing near the top, because every time I see it I start singing in my head

"oooh, what a feeling,
when we're grappling on the ceiling"

and it won't stop!


So the ability reads:

Battle Companion (major): At 10th level, you can summon a battle companion. This ability functions as summon monster IV with a duration of 1 minute, but for only a good outsider or an animal with the celestial creature simple template.

This ability can summon only one creature, regardless of the list used. For every 2 levels beyond 10th, the level of the summon monster spell increases by 1 (to a maximum of summon monster IX at 20th level).

I took it to read that even if a warpriest summons monsters of a lower level they cannont summon, say, 1d3 of the monsters. This seems obvious.

However, one could also interpret it as reading that you can only have a single monster on the battlefield at a time. Otherwise a warpriest, with nothing better to do, could spam the battlefield with numerous creatures (one per round, every round).

So, is it the first or both answers? Thanks!

I was considering running Wrath, but it seems to emphasis that mythic tiers are essential.

I am not really interested in mythic and was wondering if it was possible to run the campaign without it....and, if so, what chances the PCs would have to survive.


Castilonium wrote:
Both. The Draugr has "or."

Thanks so much!

Is that in the Core? Somewhere in additional rules?

We had quite a debate at our last session. We were fighting a lich with DR10/bludgeoning and magic. I thought it meant a weapon had to have BOTH qualities to overcome the DR.

Others were certain that a weapon need only have ONE of the two categories to overcome the DR.

I tried to find an example of a monster with the word "or" in between two damage types, but I could not.

Who is right? The word "and implies both criteria are required. Could someone show me the word "or" in some beast's description? It would be greatly appreciated.

"You killed the younglings!!"

"I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough....actually, it's not all that bad."

"I'm a glass cannon of emotion!!!!!!"

"Usually one must go to a Shrine of Lamashtu to meet a woman of your stature."

"We're on a mission from a god."

"That's what I like about elves; I keep getting older, they stay the same age."

"This sword goes to eleven"

"Smite Evil: 60% of the time it works every time."

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Jack Burton would approve of this thread:

"Honey, I never ride faster than I can see. Besides that, it's all in the reflex save."

"Give me your best shot. I can take it."

"Sit tight, hold the fort, keep the home fires burning. And if we're not back by the president."

"Everybody relax, I'm here."

"What the hell does that mean? [Insert phrase here]. I don't even know what the hell that means?"

"Have I paid my dues? [Look the bad guy right in the eye]. Yes sir, the cheque is in the mail."

Say your enemy has a sword. Work it into the phrase:

"Be careful! A sword is not a toy....unless its a toy sword."

"I'm going to turn you inside out like a sock!!!!"

"Crime doesn't merely rents your soul!"

"It still counts as evil even if you feel really bad about doing it."

"I find it unethical to keep your dog/squire/grandparents in your bag of holding, even if it is a Type III."

"So....I use the cleric like a salt shaker to get the healing out?"

Considering it costs 60gp for a single adamantine arrow. With adamantine blanch you can have ten adamantine arrows for 100gp.

The rule seems ok.

Very interesting, as I am also playing a 13th level Dwarven Warpriest with scimitar and heavy shield. We have a human psion, a human Paladin, a half-elf rogue, and an elven wizard.

AC of 35 (before sacred armor) and with Steel Soul/Glory of Old he is tough as hell. I also avoided Power Attack so I consistently hit for decent damage. He very slowly kills everything in the's like the hallway fight from Oldboy.

I can't recall most of his feats but he did take Fey Foundling at 1st, Toughness, Deepsight, Dodge, Weapon Focus/Greater Weapon Focus, Weapon Specialization and Greater Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, Quicken Blessing.....not all in that order.

A fun class and it amazes the table when you are able to Fervor a Heal on yourself and then do a full attack.

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Currently I am finishing up Runelords and am wondering if Paizo was going to bind any more Adventure Paths into a slick hardcover format? If so, what would be the next one?


If not a half-orc, you can get a Headband of Fortune's Favor.

Dragonbane Diviation Sticks are a nice save booster as well.

There is a Dire collar which will Enlarge Person (Animal) on him for 1,000 gp.

Also one that costs alot more, the Dire Collar Greater. Animal Growth is what it does but it costs 14,000 gp.

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