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I don't suppose anyone thinks it's likely (or even possible) that Paizo may end up doing a discounted price (if not a free copy) of a second printing of this CRB for those who bought the 2e book right at the start?

I'm honestly just shocked at the massive amount of typos and misstated things across the CRB. That plus some lingering feelings of Bait&Switch(*) regarding the playtest has left with with kind of a bitter taste in my mouth.

*I feel like the Playtest was sold as being a Beta; a mostly finished product that they wanted some input on. In reality, considering the amount of things that were changed, some later some right away, the playtest was much more like an Alpha/Early-Access version.

Where I'm sitting right now is that I dropped the $40 on the playtest in support of 2e, and now have that book which isn't useful in any fashion. I've now dropped another $60 on the 2e CRB which has arrived really as an unfinished product full of mistakes. And I'm gonna have to shell out more for an eventual second printing that just might be the final, finished, proper project.

I really liked 1e, and I'm really quite excited to get into 2e. I expect that it is going to become the new law of the land at my table going forward. I just can't help like feel like I've been burned pretty hard for being an early adopter here, when I really should have just waited.

Anyone else feel similarly? Not really sure what I expect of posting this, maybe just looking for some camaraderie in this.


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Nah, if you're going for flavor...

Army gathers on the designated field of battle, all in formation, shining spears and shields and all that.

A lone wizard strides out across from them.

He gestures to the left, then the right. The entire army is encircled by a continuous wall of fire, trapping them inside (along with the lone mage).

The wizard smiles at the terror in their eyes as they make a single attempt to kill him. Arrows bounce off, lances splinter against his bare flesh.

He rises up into the air and hovers over the masses as thick green smoke passes through the flame wall, slowly collapsing into the middle, ensuring that no one makes it out alive, and they all have a few precious moments to consider where they went wrong.

<How it works>

500? No. I'd have to math out the area to be affected, but I imagine 30-40 10th level wizards could do it.

Wizard Roster:

Head mage, buffed fully with nothing but protection spells and fly. (Protection from Arrows, Stoneskin, Greater Mage Armor, Shield, Barkskin Potion)

Everyone else. Greater Invisibility, Fly, Wall of Fire, Cloudkill.

The mages coordinate ahead of time, waiting for the Head Mage's signals, then they let loose with the appropriate spells.

If this is about making a statement... make one, and do it right.


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Sorry, all. I'm getting ready to play my first Magus, and I've been digging through the boards here, but unable to find a good, straight answer.

Chill touch, or any other spell with an ongoing Touch ability.

I cast it, use Spellstrike to deliver the first attack, granted as part of the casting. That's fine.

In the following rounds, when I hit you with my sword, does that also activate Chill Touch?

Can I use Spell Combat to continue to deliver Chill Touches? Not actually casting anything, but taking the -2 penalty, touching you with my off hand, then hitting with the sword?

If I cast another Touch spell, the remaining uses of Chill Touch go away, correct?

Should I just skip Chill Touch because of the funky mechanics involved?


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My Search Fu has been defeated and shamed me in front of my friends. We were having a discussion not unlike the Casters vs Fighters of old and I was called upon to back up some of my claims about Barbarians knocking the casters out of the field.

Then, of course, I couldn't find a build to back up my claims. Link or repost, please?


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Ooh! I have no idea how it would level out, but I read your post and immediately went this way:

Magus/Sorc (Dragon) (maybe X-blood with Abyssal)
Magus/Dragon Disciple

Be a Str based magus, then rock the high STR, natural armor, whatnot.


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More dots!