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PossibleCabbage wrote:

I don't understand your complaint.

Including *only* the pronouns lets me know what to call you, which involves no subjective view of themselves, and is the thing about someone's identity that will come up from other people perspective much more than anything else.

Like the reason we have names on character sheets is so we have something for other people to call you, so why not pronouns for the exact same reason? A character's inner life is something that we generally explore (if at all) through play not through how we fill in fields, and "what is your name/what are your pronouns" is pretty much a surface level part of identity.

So, no it's not. Pronouns are actually objective language tools used to describe people based on sex or number. To say it has to do with they're inner life means it has to do with subjective perception, not objective observation. However, relating back to the game; way too niche for a playtest


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
CrystalSeas wrote:
I'd also like to see the "Gender" designation removed from the character sheet.

Better option than "Gender" on a character sheet? Pronouns.

Because what societal role someone is expected to fill, or what's in your pants matter much less than "how people should refer to you", since that one is going to come up a whole lot.

Since "how do you pee" won't come up, and you can wear your hair or dress any way you can summon with your imagination, but people are going to want to slip a "she" or "him" in there from time to time since referring to people with names and titles exclusively becomes awkward.

Your concern seems way too niche for a fantasy game with an already niche fan-base let alone a playtest Of a new system. The, why include it at all, portion is probably because someone felt under represented, so Paizo being a bunch of decent people tried to be as inclusive as possible.

Besides if we're being honest about the setting of this game, where you can die at a moment's notice, a character's societal role is much more important than a character's subjective view of themselves. The statement made about gender, was more than likely an inclusive one to let fans know it's cool rather than a 'we're going to dedicate resources to make this a mechanical function of the game'.


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CrystalSeas wrote:
ApexCarnie wrote:
There is a working mechanic for gender so I have to disagree with all of you.

Page? Quotation?

Or are you just pointing out that this feat exists?

Chapter 8 page 281. Gray Maiden a prestige class specifically for women.


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There is a working mechanic for gender so I have to disagree with all of you. Not to mention just because you challenge gender tropes doesn't mean people see you as you see yourself, so the close match has validity.