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Kinda disappointing that slayers didn't get more love. I picked up the book mostly because it's a relatively new class with few options compared to classes that have existed longer. This product description advertised slayers archetypes along with all of the other classes that got several new options. Slayers only received one archetype.

From product description:
New archetypes for alchemists, bards, druids, hunters, inquisitors, investigators, mesmerists, rangers, rogues, slayers, spiritualists, and more!

The book does have lots of cool rp powers and and new ideas in it. I'm sure it will see use.

Slayers need love too :(

Thank you all for the responses. I haven't had a chance to check in on the thread since the posting. You have all given me alot to think about and I appreciate the various points of view.

It sounds like the best thing to do is have frank discussion with the GM and with the other players. If things remain the same I'll likely use retraining rules to shift build choices in favor getting additional re-rolls rather than static bonuses. I still enjoy the group and enjoy playing with them most of the time.

As stated in the OP I'm not sure how many other players are bothered by this practice so it is possible that I am not the only player who doesn't like this practice.

I'd like to point out a few things that varied during the thread that may not have been clear at first.

-The DC's are not raised all the time just when the GM wants it to be a slim chance This may result in only one scene per level (usually crucial story points involving things of custom design like BBEG, custom room environment; and has been applied to: Disable Device, Caster level Check, or Hardness Break DC etc)

-The GM is not Floating DCs for every player independently, the DC's are raised to the Best mod+15.

-This practice is not a secret. However It was not disclosed before the game began. It was implemented during the course of the campaign. I suspect, as a response to players specializing in specific tasks and achieving numbers clearly above the normal range. However the GM made no attempt to keep it secret from the players after they figured it out and asked the GM directly.

-I still don't support this position as it ignores all character build choices. Choices that were made by the player to benefit them.

Thanks again for for your responses, there are several perspectives on closely related topics I had not considered.

There is a goblin feat that lets you use sneak attack on unattended objects. However, that does not "prove" that you can or cannot sneak attack an object. Until someone finds a clear definitive statement somewhere it is not RAW that you cannot sneak attack an object being held.

Goblin Vandal
Prerequisite: Goblin, sneak attack class feature.

Benefit: You treat unattended objects as if they were vulnerable to your sneak attack, but you only deal half as much damage as you would against an actual creature.

For instance, if you rolled 12 extra damage from the sneak attack you would deal an extra 6 damage to the object. This only applies when attacking unattended objects.

thejeff wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

So you think the women being cat called should be forced to speak up against it, even though they fear that may escalate things?

More specifically, I believe Richard was suggesting bystanders speak up against it, not the woman. Or not just the woman at least. "f you stand by and do nothing", "the target of their behavior can benefit from that fact that they are not the only one who is aware and they are not alone. "

I know he was. But that also implies that women are weaker than men. It is every bit as sexist as the people he's arguing against.

I found the Troll.

We already addressed your red herrings and I'm not going entertain your argument that helping a victim in a bad situation is sexist. If you want permission to harass women you are not going to get it from me. If you have anything constructive to say that adds to the conversation rather than derails it please do so. Up to this point you've only contributed one-liners that serve to detract. Don't be surprised if I ignore your future comments.