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Secrets of Magic Playtest
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Subforums:
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Summoner Class
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A run down on Summoner features
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by Gortle
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Gortle
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Magus Class
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"Esoteric" Synthesis, aka "Arcane Monk"
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by Ly'ualdre
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Ly'ualdre,
Clinton Love,
Ligraph
and
5
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Clinton Love
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General Discussion
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"Wave" Spell Progression
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by Midnightoker
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Midnightoker,
Martialmasters,
WatersLethe
and
11
others
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34
posts
(Closed)
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by Lonesomechunk
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Magus Class
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(Another) Striking Spell idea and my case for it
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by richienvh
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richienvh,
Puna'chong,
Kalaam
and
3
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Puna'chong
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Summoner Class
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0 Sum Eidolon customization
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
22
others
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119
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Magus Class
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1-Action "Spell Combat"
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by Puna'chong
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Puna'chong,
Kalaam,
Kyrone
and
2
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Puna'chong
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Summoner Class
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4 Summoners vs PFS 1-25 Grim Symphony [Spoilers]
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by Falgaia
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Falgaia,
Deriven Firelion,
Rysky
and
4
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Rysky
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Magus Class
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9th Level Caster Spell Slot Paradigm Proposal
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by WatersLethe
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Ressy,
Lightdroplet,
oholoko
and
WatersLethe
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Ressy
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Magus Class
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19th level double spellstrike is a reasonably balanced semi-capstone
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by QuidEst
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QuidEst,
Callin13,
Claxon
and
Kalaam
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by QuidEst
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Summoner Class
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Aasimar Dwarf Angel Summoner: Let's see how it plays
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion
and
Dubious Scholar
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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Magus Class
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Acid Walker
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by Bast L.
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Bast L.
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Bast L.
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Summoner Class
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Act Together Change and Focus on Summons
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
EberronHoward,
Midnightoker
and
3
others
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15
posts
(Closed)
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by EberronHoward
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Summoner Class
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Act Together vs Move in Tandem doubt
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by richienvh
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richienvh,
First World Bard
and
KrispyXIV
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by richienvh
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General Discussion
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Actual play - level 7
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by Vallarthis
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Vallarthis,
Midnightoker,
Deriven Firelion
and
Castilliano
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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General Discussion
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Actual Play Report: Level 5
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by Misroi
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Tokageko,
Shisumo,
Martialmasters
and
6
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Ferious Thune
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Magus Class
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Addressing criticisms with changes to subclasses.
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by manbearscientist
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manbearscientist,
Clinton Love,
Martialmasters
and
2
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Summoner Class
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Advice on Level 8 phantom summoner
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by GM OfAnything
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GM OfAnything,
Falgaia
and
Deriven Firelion
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by RexAliquid
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Magus Class
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Alternate approach to Magus
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by Ressy
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Ressy
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Ressy
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Summoner Class
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Alternate Eidolon
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by inshal chenet
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Verzen,
inshal chenet,
Temperans
and
Deriven Firelion
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Magus Class
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Alternative Spell Combat and Synthesis ideas
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by Doorslammer
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Doorslammer
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Doorslammer
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Magus Class
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Alternatives to Striking Spell
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by siegfriedliner
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Zero the Nothing,
Martialmasters,
Frames Janco
and
2
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Summoner Class
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Amazingly its balanced
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by siegfriedliner
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Apellosine,
Charlesfire,
MaxAstro
and
3
others
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Apellosine
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Magus Class
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An Argument against interdepedent d20 rolls and Player Satisfaction
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by vagrant-poet
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Vidmaster7,
Ressy
and
vagrant-poet
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Vidmaster7
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Summoner Class
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An idea to add some more customization for the eidolon at level one without the mess of evolution points and a way to balance certaint options,, Sub-templets.
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by Pronate11
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KrispyXIV,
Pronate11,
Rysky
and
15
others
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72
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Summoner Class
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An idea to bridge the gap.
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV
and
OrochiFuror
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Magus Class
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An unorthodox request to the devs
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by Capn Cupcake
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Kalaam,
Capn Cupcake,
CrypticSplicer
and
4
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by CrypticSplicer
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Summoner Class
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Angel Summoner, 5th level playtest
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by Shisumo
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Shisumo
and
KrispyXIV
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Shisumo
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Summoner Class
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Animal Companion versus Eidolon Lvl 20
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
oholoko
and
24
others
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106
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Summoner Class
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Animal companions vs Eidolon
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Midnightoker,
Verzen
and
13
others
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73
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Summoner Class
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Any interest in a stay-at-home Summoner?
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by WatersLethe
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CrimsonKnight,
David knott 242,
WatersLethe
and
10
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by David knott 242
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Summoner Class
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Any time you gain a Summoner class feat, you can also pick an evolution feat
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by Ravingdork
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Ravingdork,
TheGentlemanDM,
KrispyXIV
and
2
others
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by TheGentlemanDM
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Summoner Class
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Anyone else find the Act Together "actions must differ" limitation unnecessary?
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by Ravingdork
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Deadmanwalking
and
Ravingdork
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Deadmanwalking
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Summoner Class
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Apex Companion Item
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by Sagiam
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OrochiFuror,
KrispyXIV
and
Sagiam
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Magus Class
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APG Eldritch Archer v Magus Shooting Star
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by Moppy
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Reticent,
shroudb,
Cordell Kintner
and
Moppy
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Reticent
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Magus Class
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Bake shifting staff of divination into the base class as a feat or a focus spell?
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by Oakblade
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Kalaam,
Themetricsystem,
WatersLethe
and
7
others
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13
posts
(Closed)
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by Kalaam
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Magus Class
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Base expectation from spell strike
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by Martialmasters
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BlessedHeretic,
Ressy,
BretI
and
2
others
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by BlessedHeretic
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Summoner Class
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Battle medicine (and other Immune for X abilities) and Eidolons
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by shroudb
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Darksol the Painbringer,
shroudb,
Deriven Firelion
and
7
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Lightdroplet
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General Discussion
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Best Adventure Path For Testing?
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by Darth Grall
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Darksol the Painbringer
and
Darth Grall
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Darksol the Painbringer
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Magus Class
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best builds youve managed for current magus
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by Martialmasters
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Martialmasters,
Exocist,
citricking
and
3
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Exocist
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Magus Class
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Bigger on the Inside
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by Corneleus Idaho
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Corneleus Idaho
and
graystone
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Corneleus Idaho
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Magus Class
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Black bladed?
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by Verzen
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Cyrad,
Charon Onozuka,
Perpdepog
and
3
others
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Cyrad
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Summoner Class
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Bouncing Back from Zero
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
David knott 242
and
10
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by Vallarthis
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Magus Class
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Brief analysis and considerations
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by HumbleGamer
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HumbleGamer
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1
post
(Closed)
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by HumbleGamer
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Magus Class
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Can Magus cast lower level spells with a Staff?
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by Sfyn
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Enrif
and
Sfyn
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Enrif
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Summoner Class
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Can we talk about the Sigil?
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by Reticent
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Reticent,
Voss,
Moppy
and
5
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by David knott 242
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Magus Class
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Capture Spell is Amazing
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by MaxAstro
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Kalaam,
HumbleGamer,
MaxAstro
and
9
others
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34
posts
(Closed)
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by HumbleGamer
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Magus Class
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Capture Spell+Spell Immunity; Possible abuse; how does it work?
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by Emused
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Emused
and
shroudb
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Emused
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Magus Class
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Cascading Ray Clarification
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by Perpdepog
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beowulf99,
Falgaia
and
Perpdepog
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by beowulf99
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Magus Class
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Change to Striking Spell to Help Action Economy
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by kripdenn
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kripdenn
and
Ressy
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by kripdenn
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Magus Class
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Changing grip costs an action. I don't see how you can use Sustaining Steel.
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by Moppy
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Moppy,
Castilliano,
Djinn71
and
MEATSHED
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Moppy
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Summoner Class
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Cirieo Thassaddin, Summoner
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by Mathmuse
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Mathmuse,
Charlesfire
and
Sedoriku
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Mathmuse
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General Discussion
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Class Upgrades / Archetypes / Feat Chains?
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by TheGoofyGE3K
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Temperans,
BACE,
Sporkedup
and
22
others
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36
posts
(Closed)
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by Perpdepog
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Magus Class
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Combat Font
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by Kaboogy
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Kaboogy,
Puna'chong,
Ressy
and
Arachnofiend
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by Kaboogy
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Summoner Class
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Combo with Devise a Stratagem
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by SuperBidi
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SuperBidi,
shroudb,
Xenocrat
and
3
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Xenocrat
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Magus Class
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Comet Strike
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by ArcaneDuelist
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ArcaneDuelist
and
Inquisitive Tiefling
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by ArcaneDuelist
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Summoner Class
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Compare the Summoners Attack Bonus
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by Gortle
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KrispyXIV,
lemeres,
Falgaia
and
3
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Magus Class
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Comparing Magus Striking Spell Damage to a Flurry Ranger
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by kripdenn
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Martialmasters,
Lelomenia,
kripdenn
and
18
others
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71
posts
(Closed)
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by kripdenn
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Magus Class
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Comparing martial MC Magus to caster MC magus
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by Unicore
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Unicore
and
Martialmasters
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by Unicore
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Magus Class
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Complete Striking Spell damage comparison
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by Kaboogy
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Kaboogy,
Ressy,
Martialmasters
and
12
others
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34
posts
(Closed)
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by Kaboogy
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Magus Class
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Completely different Magus approach
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by Ressy
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Ressy,
WatersLethe,
drakinar 451
and
Lightdroplet
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by WatersLethe
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Summoner Class
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conservative thoughts on the summoner playtest
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by Martialmasters
—
Martialmasters
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Magus Class
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Cool stuff we can do with the playtest Magus
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by breithauptclan
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breithauptclan,
Exocist,
Ligraph
and
11
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Unicore
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Summoner Class
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Could you evaluate my Elf Dragon Summoner level 5 build?
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by Courage Mind
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Courage Mind
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Courage Mind
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Magus Class
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Crits, Action Economy Boost, and Synthesis sub-classes. A suggestion.
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by Ressy
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Ressy,
Lightdroplet,
drakinar 451
and
2
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Lightdroplet
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Summoner Class
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Customization Options at Level 1 - Numbering 3
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by KrispyXIV
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
cavernshark
and
7
others
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26
posts
(Closed)
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by TheGentlemanDM
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Summoner Class
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dedications and archetype
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by Verzen
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Falgaia,
KrispyXIV
and
Verzen
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Magus Class
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Developer ideas to the Magus
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by Martialmasters
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Martialmasters,
Samurai,
Ed Reppert
and
9
others
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27
posts
(Closed)
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by Unicore
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Magus Class
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A different magus approach
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by Staffan Johansson
—
Staffan Johansson,
Ligraph
and
richienvh
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Ligraph
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Summoner Class
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Diversity in Eidolons
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by Mathmuse
—
Mathmuse,
Midnightoker
and
Salamileg
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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General Discussion
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Do archetypes feel required? And if so, is that a problem?
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by Shisumo
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Martialmasters,
richienvh,
Unicore
and
12
others
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23
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Magus Class
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Does a 2-Action "Spellstrike" Work?
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by Puna'chong
—
Puna'chong,
Martialmasters,
Angel Hunter D
and
2
others
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9
posts
(Closed)
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by Puna'chong
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Magus Class
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Does Striking Spell work with cantrips?
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by Deriven Firelion
—
Ferious Thune,
AnimatedPaper,
Unicore
and
16
others
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75
posts
(Closed)
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by WWHsmackdown
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Summoner Class
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Does Summoner Retain 1st Level Spells?
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by ToddVulpine
—
ToddVulpine,
Dubious Scholar,
Squiggit
and
singingzombies
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9
posts
(Closed)
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by singingzombies
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Summoner Class
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Does the eidolon ever roll initiative?
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by ArbitraryAppellation
—
KrispyXIV
and
ArbitraryAppellation
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Summoner Class
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Does the summoner forget their lower spells when they level up?
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by Moppy
—
Moppy
and
singingzombies
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Moppy
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Summoner Class
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Dragon breath weapon
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by Verzen
—
Dαedαlus,
Falgaia,
Verzen
and
5
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Summoner Class
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Dragon Eidolons are a mistake
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by siegfriedliner
—
Falgaia,
siegfriedliner,
WatersLethe
and
16
others
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27
posts
(Closed)
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by MaxAstro
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Summoner Class
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Dual Studies / Eidolon Proficiency Confusion
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by singingzombies
—
Mark Seifter
and
singingzombies
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Mark Seifter
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Summoner Class
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Dumb casting question
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by Moulson
—
graystone,
KrispyXIV,
Katrixia
and
6
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon Archetypes - "Skill Packs"
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by KrispyXIV
—
KrispyXIV,
Midnightoker,
Martialmasters
and
Sagiam
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon Attack of Opportunity
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by ArbitraryAppellation
—
Deriven Firelion,
Loreguard,
KrispyXIV
and
2
others
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon Combat Feats
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by siegfriedliner
—
Deriven Firelion,
HumbleGamer,
Mark Seifter
and
7
others
|
17
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Summoner Class
|
Eidolon Con Dump Stat
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by siegfriedliner
—
graystone
and
siegfriedliner
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Summoner Class
|
Eidolon rider
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by Samir Sardinha
—
Samir Sardinha
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Samir Sardinha
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Summoner Class
|
Eidolon Stats
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by Dubious Scholar
—
Dubious Scholar,
Charlesfire,
graystone
and
2
others
|
7
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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Summoner Class
|
Eidolon Stats Should Do More
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by DM_aka_Dudemeister
—
TheGentlemanDM,
Dubious Scholar,
Falgaia
and
3
others
|
8
posts
(Closed)
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by TheGentlemanDM
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Summoner Class
|
Eidolon Summoner Ability Modified Some
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by Deriven Firelion
—
Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
9
others
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45
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon using command an animal
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by Raveve
—
Raveve
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Raveve
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon Weapons
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by siegfriedliner
—
KrispyXIV,
HumbleGamer,
Pronate11
and
6
others
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon's should benefit from Apex items and get better stats in general.
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by Raveve
—
KrispyXIV,
Dubious Scholar,
siegfriedliner
and
5
others
|
14
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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Summoner Class
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Eidolons and Traditions
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by Brinebeast
—
Brinebeast
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Brinebeast
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Summoner Class
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Eidolon’s main stat tied to the Summoner’s Charisma?
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by Rysky
—
KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
7
others
|
20
posts
(Closed)
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by Squiggit
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Magus Class
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Eldritch Archer and Striking Spell
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by siegfriedliner
—
Xethik,
CrypticSplicer,
citricking
and
3
others
|
10
posts
(Closed)
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by Xethik
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Magus Class
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Eldritch Scion / Spontaneous Magus?
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by Yigg
—
Yigg,
citricking,
biphenyl
and
3
others
|
8
posts
(Closed)
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by citricking
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Magus Class
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Eldritch Shot added to Expected damage tool for comparisons
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by citricking
—
citricking
|
1
post
(Closed)
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by citricking
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General Discussion
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Eldritch Shot added to Expected damage tool for comparisons
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by citricking
—
citricking
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1
post
(Closed)
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by citricking
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Summoner Class
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Encorporate Specializations.
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by Verzen
—
Verzen
and
Katrixia
|
3
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
|
|
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Magus Class
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Energise Strikes Stacking
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by siegfriedliner
—
siegfriedliner,
Kalaam
and
beowulf99
|
4
posts
(Closed)
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by Kalaam
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Magus Class
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A few considerations
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by HumbleGamer
—
HumbleGamer
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1
post
(Closed)
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by HumbleGamer
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Summoner Class
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A very boring and simple fix for Summoners and summoning that works for new players.
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by QuidEst
—
QuidEst,
Alchemic_Genius,
Gortle
and
5
others
|
10
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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