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![Gorgon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gorgon.jpg)
Now you've piqued my interest sir!
If the details on Kyra's cloak are truly as impressive as the paint masters at Gencon suggested?
Then it will be Wile E Coyote jaw-drop-to-the-ground time in RPG land.
Eledriel, I get your concern about cost, but if the paint quality is truly as good as the paint masters promised? By comparing Pathfinfer Battles minis to WotC's D&D Miniatures (any set, any time, any figure) you are not comparing the same product; it is like apples and oranges.
The sculpts may well have been as good in the Dragon Queen/ War Drums era of 3.5 plastic minis (the rares were pretty damn good in those D&D sets, imo), but the paint jobs are not even remotely comparable. It's like trading water for whiskey. Whiskey flat out costs more $$.
Even some of the best WotC paint jobs (Elminster was the high water mark in all of the D&D minis sets for humanoid figs, imo) don't compare to what we saw at Gencon.
IF the paint jobs are as good as promised, that is.
*crosses fingers*
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Hobbun |
![Kusari-Gama Monk](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Faction-monk.jpg)
Oh, the Lich looks great!
Although I am not sure on the Medusa. Where I like the body and white gown and hair, the face seems too serene. Her mouth is small and compressed. Kind of like “Ho-hum”. Also, not sure if it’s the lighting when the digital of the mini was taken, but it’s hard to see the detail on the snake.
I may be reading too much into it with her mouth, but the Medusa just doesn’t seem ‘scary’ at all.
But huge thumbs up on the Lich!
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![Attic Whisperer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/42-attic_whisperer_final_h.jpg)
I like the look of these two, but perhaps the medusa's eyes/face should stand out more. The lich looks neat! No complaints there. Can't wait to get my boney little fingers on these new toys!
I know it’s a question you may not want to answer (or may have answered elsewhere) but when roughly can we expect these to start shipping?
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![Ishani Dhatri](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A7-Priest-of-Abadar.jpg)
I like the look of these two, but perhaps the medusa's eyes/face should stand out more. The lich looks neat! No complaints there. Can't wait to get my boney little fingers on these new toys!
I know it’s a question you may not want to answer (or may have answered elsewhere) but when roughly can we expect these to start shipping?
The only answer can really give is they don't know.
It'll be shortly after they arrive in the warehouse, which is supposed to be in Mid December, but that depends on when they leave the factory in China, if there are problems with th boat acroos, when they get the docs to allow for delivery, if anything goes wrong with that, and in this case, wether everyting goes to Wizkids first then over to Paizo, which is another potential delay.
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![Vic Wertz](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/vic_abadar_avatar.jpg)
Steel_Wind wrote:Now you've piqued my interest sir!
If the details on Kyra's cloak are truly as impressive as the paint masters at Gencon suggested?
This is one instance where I think the production run is even better than the paint masters. The back of Kyra's cloak is absolutely incredible.
When we got the paint masters before Gen Con, I thought Kyra's cloak featured some of the best details I'd ever seen on a prepainted mini... but yes, WizKids really has improved on that since Gen Con. We'll post some new photos soon.
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![Gorgon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gorgon.jpg)
When we got the paint masters before Gen Con, I thought Kyra's cloak featured some of the best details I'd ever seen on a prepainted mini... but yes, WizKids really has improved on that since Gen Con. We'll post some new photos soon.
I am trying to retain a healthy level of skepticism about all of this.
That said, my excitement/optimism level concerning the production run paint job is now beginning to nose into the orange/red threat band in my "wallet emptying alarm meter".
:D
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![Cabbagehead](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/A13cabbage_head_final.jpg)
Wow. When I heard they would be painted very good, I thought more alon the lines if having the paint where it belongs, and not having the silver of the armor on the face (or something like that), like it has been with the WotC minis...
But after seeing those two...wow! I never would've thought it would be THAT good! I really hope its not only those two for promotion reasons, but that the whole production line looks this way.
Awesome stuff for pre-painted minis!!!
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deinol |
![Akata](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/b2_c_moon_monster_final.jpg)
The Medusa miniature looks very impressive (although I do wish they'd use the name gorgon rather than medusa if she's supposed to be a memeber of a race rather than a unique monster :) ).
That shipped sailed back in 1st Edition. And confirmed already in Pathfinder when they printed Gorgon (bull-thing) and Medusa in the Bestiary along traditional RPG lines.
But call her what you want in your games, I'm just looking forward to getting the mini.
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Damon Griffin |
![Griffon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gryphon.jpg)
It's very possible I've missed seeing some information somewhere, but as far as I can tell the offer on the table is: spend $275 in the next three weeks for a [hopefully] complete set of figures that haven't been listed anywhere, much less pictured (with few exceptions), in order to get a shot at spending an as-yet-undisclosed amount of money to buy another figure no one has seen?
I really have a hard time seeing that as a good deal. I get the need to do random packs, but generally you have an idea of what might be in those packs, so you can gauge whether it's worth the risk the cost of the pack represents. You look at a checklist of 40 creatures, decide you can use most of them, you buy the pack because the odds are in your favor.
I'll be buying these figures a few at a time after I've seen a list, and may have to get some in aftermarket.
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![Kobold](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Deschamps-Kobold-scared.jpg)
It's very possible I've missed seeing some information somewhere, but as far as I can tell the offer on the table is: spend $275 in the next three weeks for a [hopefully] complete set of figures that haven't been listed anywhere, much less pictured (with few exceptions), in order to get a shot at spending an as-yet-undisclosed amount of money to buy another figure no one has seen?
I really have a hard time seeing that as a good deal. I get the need to do random packs, but generally you have an idea of what might be in those packs, so you can gauge whether it's worth the risk the cost of the pack represents. You look at a checklist of 40 creatures, decide you can use most of them, you buy the pack because the odds are in your favor.
I'll be buying these figures a few at a time after I've seen a list, and may have to get some in aftermarket.
I doubt this will make a difference but you'd only pay $233 because of your AP subscription.
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![Gorgon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gorgon.jpg)
I do wish they'd use the name gorgon rather than medusa if she's supposed to be a member of a race rather than a unique monster :)
Oh, hell, yes.
Khalkotauroi unite!
Reclaim your heritage!
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![Gorgon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gorgon.jpg)
In response to the many comments, here and elsewhere re painting quality;
For those who say the colours are a little flat, these are digital images for the sculpting process, and I trust Wizkids to do a decent job.
Having said that; I wouldn't mind if more figure companies concentrated on a few good base colours, painted very neatly, as I can give them an ink wash myself, repaint a pouch or sash here and there, and do it differently on each one, so as to distinguish them.
For me, 'consistently neat and clear' beats 'slathering multiple coats all over the details' from trying too hard. YMMV.
However, if Wizkids can manage 'consistently neat, and clear, and detailed' then they have managed something that's eluded most figures to date, and they should be applauded (and given money).
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BlackFalconKY |
![Umber Hulk](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/umber-hulk.gif)
All the previews I've seen look really good. Someone mentioned above that some look a bit like "cartoons." I agree to an extent, but I think that's a good thing. They don't look like WotC minis. These are distinctly their own thing, and as a person with hundreds of WotC minis, I'm eager to lay hands on something else. I cringe a bit at the price, not because I won't buy them, but because my budget won't let me buy as many as I'd like!
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![Lisa Stevens](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/private/lisa_southpark.gif)
Berselius wrote:Any particular reason why the blog hasn't been updated in 3 days?Ever heard of those weekends things they've got in America? They refuse to work and have 2 free days at the end of the week! Blaphsemy against the face of Creator, I say.
Yeah, I better start cracking that whip again. The gall. Weekends! Those don't exist in the adventure game industry. Sigh.
-Lisa
(who just enjoyed a nice 2 day period without work. What do they call those things again?)
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Gorbacz wrote:Berselius wrote:Any particular reason why the blog hasn't been updated in 3 days?Ever heard of those weekends things they've got in America? They refuse to work and have 2 free days at the end of the week! Blaphsemy against the face of Creator, I say.Yeah, I better start cracking that whip again. The gall. Weekends! Those don't exist in the adventure game industry. Sigh.
-Lisa
(who just enjoyed a nice 2 day period without work. What do they call those things again?)
Well ok, I guess a weekend off once in a while is ok, just don't make it a habit. ;)
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![Gorgon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gorgon.jpg)
Yeah, I better start cracking that whip again. The gall. Weekends! Those don't exist in the adventure game industry. Sigh.
-Lisa
(who just enjoyed a nice 2 day period without work. What do they call those things again?)
Has your avatar lost its tan?
I remember when it got altered, now you're back to being in the pink.Soon be Snowpocalypse again!
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![Father Zastoran](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF19-04.jpg)
As I mentioned in another thread, I believe the Medusa looks great. Will the snake be a separate piece, or will it be a part of the mold? I'm fine either way, just curious for it looks like it could be separate looking at the digital sculpt.
The Lich is different. I am use to the Lich looking well past decay in body and clothing. But that really is old school. A creature as powerful as a Lich could take on just about whatever appearance and dress it desires. With that thought in mind, I like the Lich.
Later,
Mazra
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Anguish |
![Volnagur the End-Singer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF24-08.jpg)
It probably won't make a difference, but it's a good point, and I had in fact overlooked that hefty discount.
Also to be fair, of the total 41 minis, 9 have been both listed and digital renders shown. We also have been told there are (at least) two goblins (which haven't been shown). We also know there's one more of the Pathfinder iconics though we don't know which one. The dragon has been shown in digital sculpt.
Lich
Medusa
Ice Giant
Dire Rat
Vampire
Succubus
Gnome Fighter
Troll
Huge Black Dragon
Of these, none have sucked.
I'm prepared to risk it to keep my per-mini price down.
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KaeYoss |
![The Jester](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/jester.jpg)
(although I do wish they'd use the name gorgon rather than medusa if she's supposed to be a memeber of a race rather than a unique monster :) )
Please address your comments to the original creators of the original D&D rules, and make sure they arrive no later than 30+ years ago :P
Medusa is a race of monstrous humanoids in Pathfinder, and that's because it has been like that in D&D for quite some time, too.
Plus, a gorgon is a bull tha can petrify you with the steam coming out of its nostrils (well, at least in PF and D&D it is).
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KaeYoss |
![The Jester](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/jester.jpg)
KaeYoss wrote:
Plus, a gorgon is a bull tha can petrify you with the steam coming out of its nostrils (well, at least in PF and D&D it is).Steam? I prefer to think of that breath coming out of that Steely Bull as just... "Wind" :P
There is something seriously wrong with your internal plumbing.