[PF2] Malevolence (GM Watery Soup) (Inactive)

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I totally forgot about today being Thanksgiving. I'll post something good tomorrow.

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Hello!
Saturday I attend the GobbleCon, and will likely not post the entire day, but will resume posting on Sunday. Cheers!


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I'm working on a long-ish (but complex) post. I thought I would have it done today but I got my COVID booster yesterday and I've been feeling meh. Tonight or tomorrow!

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No spoilers...

within spoilers...:

Spoiler:

...within spoilers!


@Gm Watery Soup.

I'll ask again since my earlier query seems to have been overlooked. I forgot to purchase thieves tools for Lazlo. Would it be okay to retroactively make that purchase?


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

I would like to add to that request Hatchet for Fundin ;) I have the money, just need to plant them and find a hatchet under the rock ;)


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Sorry, I think it was lost in the shuffle.

Yes, you're free to retro-purchase anything you forgot. I'm on my phone so I don't have ccess to the spreadsheet, but maybe at the end of every day if there is anything you want to purchase with gold you found, a mischievious fey can steal your gold at night and you'll find the item sometimw the next day?

The only other option is to organize a multiday trip to the nearest city. I think other groups are doing this but there's already a lot that goes on every night.


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Hi players, I know I was a bit AWOL on Friday but Monday's going to be tough too. I will try to get caught up Monday night or Tuesday.


Perc +7 | 25 feet | Spell DC 21 | Active Conditions: none NG Male Fleshwarp (Created) Oracle/Runescarred 5th HP 67/67 | AC: 21 | F +11 R +9 W +11

No worries. We all have times when we're busy with unimportant things (aka REAL LIFE.)

It's probably going to be worse for the next month.


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| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None
GM Watery Soup wrote:
Hi players, I know I was a bit AWOL on Friday but Monday's going to be tough too. I will try to get caught up Monday night or Tuesday.

Yeah, no worries. Real-life always take priority before games, take your time.


Tengu| HP 46/46 | AC: 20 | F: +9 R: +10, W: +13 | Perception: +13 (T, Low-Light) | Default Exploration: Searching

All good!


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

Guys/Gals I'm in bed waiting on my test result .... and feeling like ****

bot by keeping out of trouble, use flame/chill touch and hheal spells to protect others.


Perc +7 | 25 feet | Spell DC 21 | Active Conditions: none NG Male Fleshwarp (Created) Oracle/Runescarred 5th HP 67/67 | AC: 21 | F +11 R +9 W +11

I'm sure similar posts will be making the rounds, but I am off tomorrow and Monday so my posting will be slow or non-existent.

I hope everyone has a Merry Nonreligious Season of Joy, Renewal and Gifts.

Also, I hope you got your test results back and they were negative, Deevor.


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

Good news it's not covid and I've now get penicillin and other medications, so I am feeling a lot better than I have been. Last night was the first night I actually got some proper sleep, so hoping for the same tonight. So things are looking up and hoping a full recovery is on the way. I'll be posting again after Xmas.

Wishing you all a Happy Christmas and a brilliant New Year, (with less Covid).


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I noticed someone moved the tactical slide to Slide 1. That's fine with me (if people prefer, I can do that at the beginning of combat from now on), but in the future, please make a note of it in Discussion. I thought someone deleted it, and was about to clip in a backup slide from my GM deck. :P


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

Apologies to you all, I've still recovering for whatever got me before Christmas, it's not been a great time.

However, I'm ready to start up again, if you're all OK for me to restart the annoying gnome lawyer...

Just about to start reading up what I've missed...

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Lazlo Gorog wrote:
◆◆◆ Manifest Eidolon
Mysterious Cloaked Figure wrote:
The thin mystery figure lashes out at the mist with a nasty-looking scythe that appears to be a part of its left arm.

Holy jesus what is happening!


rainzax wrote:
Lazlo Gorog wrote:
◆◆◆ Manifest Eidolon
Mysterious Cloaked Figure wrote:
The thin mystery figure lashes out at the mist with a nasty-looking scythe that appears to be a part of its left arm.
Holy jesus what is happening!

XD


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Sorry for the delay, prepping research results in a big post.


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I'm really sorry guys, but some of the things in the post I was prepping don't seem like they make sense on a metagame level, and I finally realize I've fundamentally misunderstood part of it, and I need to re-prep it (and go back over the dream post and see how to adjust so that the research properly discloses everything you need at the pace that it needs to be done).

One possibility is that we begin moving through some of the other rooms, and I'll retcon what you learned at the library here (none of it should affect your decision where to go next).

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Support your decision either way GM

=)


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

Happy to go with the GM on this, whatever way we go.


Perc +7 | 25 feet | Spell DC 21 | Active Conditions: none NG Male Fleshwarp (Created) Oracle/Runescarred 5th HP 67/67 | AC: 21 | F +11 R +9 W +11

I trust you. Good to go, either way.


Tengu| HP 46/46 | AC: 20 | F: +9 R: +10, W: +13 | Perception: +13 (T, Low-Light) | Default Exploration: Searching

All good here. I have heard from several people the portion you are going over is a bit complicated


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Yeah, it's not very obvious, and I didn't read it carefully enough the first time around - I just kind of instinctively made a big spreadsheet that I thought would just organize it all for me.


Tengu| HP 46/46 | AC: 20 | F: +9 R: +10, W: +13 | Perception: +13 (T, Low-Light) | Default Exploration: Searching

Have you see the tracker that Doug H created on the GM Shared Prep? I haven't looked over it at all to avoid spoilers but he creates some pretty helpful trackers.

Malevolence GM Shared Prep


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

Uhh, Doug H and his spreadsheet :) I would have to look through it when we finish playing this.

I played at his Lodge of the Living God scenario, where you perform a number of tasks, and he had a project plan prepared in the spreadsheet, it counted effort, resources etc. That guy is insane!


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

And one more thing, I don't know if it helps or not, but I would not expect horrors and dreams to be completely accurate. So a bit of misleading visions could also spice things up ;)


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Zoiqoppour Royok wrote:

Have you see the tracker that Doug H created on the GM Shared Prep? I haven't looked over it at all to avoid spoilers but he creates some pretty helpful trackers.

Malevolence GM Shared Prep

Sweet Iomedae, I'm going to have to thank Doug for this.


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

just an FYI, I am dm'ing with Doug and told him about us 'finding his sheet':

Doug wrote:


The malevolence sheet has a couple of errors in it, regarding knowledge thresholds. If you’re in that game let the gm know to just double-check. It was built for live play where I didn’t have time to flip back and forth through pages of the module in game

So delivering the message


m Human | Rogue 5 | HP58/58 | AC 22/23| F +8 R +13 W +11 | Perception +11( +12 vs Traps, Trap Finder) | Hero 0/3 | Active Conditions: Wounded 1 |

We've been at this for a bit. How about some hero points?


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Lazlo Gorog wrote:
We've been at this for a bit. How about some hero points?

I keep forgetting about these. It's been a while, so I'm going to take the easy way out - everyone gets an additional Hero Point.

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Um. No complaints here!


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

nor here!!


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Will try to update tonight.


m Human | Rogue 5 | HP58/58 | AC 22/23| F +8 R +13 W +11 | Perception +11( +12 vs Traps, Trap Finder) | Hero 0/3 | Active Conditions: Wounded 1 |

@GM Watery Soup:
So due to the mystery element this adventure seems to have coupled with the fact that Lazlo's eidolon seems to have attached itself to him without his permission or knowledge it might be interesting to let you determine why the psychopomp eidolon has allied with Lazlo and what it wants.

You know that Lazlo is a conman that used occult trappings to act as a fake spiritualist and trick people out of their money by performing seances. I kind of picture him being exactly the sort of person that Harry Houdini would have tried to debunk back in the 20s. My intention is that in attempting to truly appear be able to contact the dead, Lazlo somehow stumbled upon true occult power and the mysterious stranger has some sort of plan for him. If you like this idea perhaps you could use this dream mechanic to have the eidolon deliver whatever message to Lazlo that you deem fit.

My original intention was for the eidolon either not speak at all or to speak sparingly in the manner of Terry Pratchett's Death character IN ALL CAPS WITH NO QUOTATION MARKS. I don't know if all this will mean more work for you than you are willing to undertake. If this is the case let me know and I'll just have Lazlo dream of a specific subject like the others.


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Lazlo:
I will absolutely work with that! :)


m Human | Rogue 5 | HP58/58 | AC 22/23| F +8 R +13 W +11 | Perception +11( +12 vs Traps, Trap Finder) | Hero 0/3 | Active Conditions: Wounded 1 |
GM Watery Soup wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

GM Watery Soup:
In that case I'll leave it up to you what, if anything, Lazlo dreams about. You have his stats if you need to make any sort of roll. Additionally if you feel that the Mysterious Stranger wants to summon himself for any reason feel free to have it show up.

| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

Hey folks,

I am ill and actually after three days feeling a bit worse. I hope that my dwarven stamina will let me fight this, whatever it is. In the meantime please bot me.


Male Gnome Sorcerer(Diabolic)/3 HP 29/32(29) AC 17(Shield 18) F+7,R+7,W+9 Perc +7 Hero 0/1 Focus 2/2 Speed 25; Default Exploration Investigate; Active Condition: Drained 1

As for the paintings, de Sibelius is happy to leave them in the house as a part of their value will be added to the charges his firm make to Lazlo, from his point of view.

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GM Watery Soup wrote:
Laurel, if you were undamaged at the beginning of your turn, you should have taken -28 hp from the crit fail (13/41), and then the persistent bleed does another 8 at the end of your turn (5/41). You should still be up even without Fundin's reaction. I'm marking Laurel and Fundin as having not acted, let me know if I've missed something.

Um. I crit-failed at math. Hero pointing now!

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Happy ☘️ folks!


m Human | Rogue 5 | HP58/58 | AC 22/23| F +8 R +13 W +11 | Perception +11( +12 vs Traps, Trap Finder) | Hero 0/3 | Active Conditions: Wounded 1 |

I love how portraits have been added to Laurel's list of phobias.

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(He has a list that has slowly grown through this adventure!)


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None

Hey folks, so when I checked the loot, we found roughly 200 gp in valuables. Would we want to get something? Or are we hoarding money for the 4th level to buy striking runes?

Anyone have any 'wish list' of items, scrolls etc?


Perc +7 | 25 feet | Spell DC 21 | Active Conditions: none NG Male Fleshwarp (Created) Oracle/Runescarred 5th HP 67/67 | AC: 21 | F +11 R +9 W +11

I'm terrible when it comes to equipment for spellcasters. If anyone has any utilitarian scrolls to suggest, I'm happy to opt for them.

Otherwise, I'll probably wait for an armor rune.


| Male Dwarf Champion 5 | HP 80/80 | AC 23 (25 w shield) | F +12 R +8 W +12 | Perc +10 (dark vision) | Default Exploration: guard | Speed 15ft | hero points 1 | Active Conditions: None
Galimus wrote:

I'm terrible when it comes to equipment for spellcasters. If anyone has any utilitarian scrolls to suggest, I'm happy to opt for them.

Otherwise, I'll probably wait for an armor rune.

I don't know honestly. I think around those levels scrolls could be of use. In one of the AP's that I played we ended up buying Restoration scrolls as on one session my Wizzard got stupefied and for the rest of the dungeon, I rolled flat-check DC5 on every spell.


Tengu| HP 46/46 | AC: 20 | F: +9 R: +10, W: +13 | Perception: +13 (T, Low-Light) | Default Exploration: Searching

Scrolls and wands to free up more slots are always good at the lower levels.


GM Watery Soup wrote:


Fundin, you would have your shield in hand [I believe in PF2 they are actually strapped to your arm, I recall a discussion in a past game {and think it was actually one of Halgur's characters, perhaps they can weigh in} and remember the ruling was "it's strapped to your arm"], just not a weapon. As a reuslt, you have an extra action.

So our GM in that discussion was the one that decided that all shields are strapped. I have been unable to find anything in the rules to indicate that any shield other than a buckler is actually required to be strapped.

Historically the Viking style round shield with shield boss was held and not strapped. In fact it seems that the shield boss on any shield is there mainly to protect the hand that holds a shield whether it is round or a 'kite' shield. It does seem that some shields were strapped to the forearm but those seem to be mostly kite shields used by mounted combatants. Admittedly my research isn't particularly thorough and I am likely missing many examples. Oddly the buckler was historically held and not strapped but this is the only shield in the game specifically mentioned to be strapped.

Since there does seem to be evidence of shields other than bucklers being both strapped and held I've been asking GMs which they prefer when I begin to play a game if I am playing one of my shield users. When I GM I simply ask the player which they prefer at the start of the scenario.


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Yes, the exact ruling was that because the Wielding Rules specify an action is required to drop a shield (vs free action for held items), it must be strapped.

Honestly, I'm okay with Halgur's method - your shield can be strapped or not strapped, and if it's strapped, you don't need an Interact to draw it.

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