Nah the dice gods would never punish me for being racist. Im part elf, being racist is about as elvish as living a long time.
Racism, it's like chains bound to you and a coffin. You never get anywhere without great effort, only to find your only peace has been behind you all along. ;)
Also change and variety may very well be the only absolutes, along with nature hates stagnation. :P
Hmm im starting to feel a little judged here and hope that the mobs with pitchforks are aware that while Kyorruel is looks down on other races, Gramork is not
Oh and before I forget
The roll to check for psionic thing
1d100
Nice!
I'll get to this probably tomorrow, please PM me a reminder to get to that. :-)
Racism? I HATE racism! Why, the only thing is hate more than racism... is halflings!
''Look here Goldfinger. There are only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's culture...... and the Dutch!''
"Ahhh Dutch Hater!"
To alter a quote "Theirs no profit in racism" ^.^
I'm pretty sure he means the Dutch aren't intolerant...
Well in that case, Gnones are just the worst. Those halfling posers!!! They think they can try to be better than you because they can make a gun capible if firing a fireball like a rocket launcher.
Death to the gnomes! Let us drive them to the sea!
Been wondering if anyone else has any quarks?
As long as we can all agree that pathfinder Goblins are the worst thing in the history of ever. God they look f*++ing stupid.
3.5 goblinoids master race. All others are heretics, they must be purged by flame.
Race war now!
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I have to say, while I largely love most Pathfinderized everything, I hate Golarion goblins with the passion of a dozen fiery burning suns.
If you like them, that's ok. A lot of people do, and obviously Paizo themselves love them.
But I find them way too much of a joke. I like cunning evil rather than mindless, random cruelty, especially mindless, random cruelty applied to cartoonish-looking baby monsters. I try to avoid using them in Golarion where I can, and in my homebrew campaign goblins are different.
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Not really. Mythologically, some stories of goblins paint them as thieves, especially horse-thieves, where they would steal a horse and ride it to exhaustion. A horse who you found sweaty and nervous in the morning for no apparent reason was said to be "goblin ridden." I used that in my world to make them cruel thieves (including of horses) and tricksters who do things to fool a target of theft into thinking they are mad (i.e., things like stealing a minor object, then putting it back, sneaking in to move one item one inch to the left, then doing the same thing the following night, so that over time it appears in another place, etc.), so that when they do the big theft the target is too bewildered to react or process. This first of all isn't jokey (at least not the way I intend) but still evil and tricky and gobliny. It also goes nowhere near the realm of, say, kobolds who are mythologically, tinkers and miners, or gremlins who are WWII era tech wreckers. Hobgoblins mythologically you can argue are the same as goblins so that doesn't really matter, and in D&D and Pathfinder Hobgoblins are given a niche of being the more organized fighter types so that doesn't get in the way either.
I dig that a lot of folks like the Golarion goblins, and more power to them. They obviously do well or Paizo wouldn't market them like they do.
I have always seen goblins as the rabble, fodder, and hordlings of evil with in FR. Their weak and none to bright but none the less cagey and numerous without any sense of morality.
Kobolds are in many ways the opposite, their weak but organized and smart. They have numbers as well but they effectively use them instead of relying on them as a crutch. More so kobolds gravitate towards structure with in their group for the betterment of the whole.
Goblins have none of these traits and are self serving above all. Just as the goblins would flee a battle gone wrong while kobolds would stand their ground and die if their hatcheries are threatened.
Roman/Spartan legionaries that enslave the goblins as their helots.
Yep agree with Ja'far, hobgoblins are the disciplined warriors. They care about structure, merit, and strength. Hobgoblins unlike goblins or kobolds are not weak. Also hobgoblins don't care about the whole so much as their place in it.
The DM is waiting for Vorik's post ;-)
Plus work was busier today than it was the rest of the week so less post time available today!
Sorry, I was out celebrating mine(yesterday, the 14) and my friend Heidi(the 15th)'s birthdays all today.
Will post tomorrow. Bed soon.
But gentlemen, what about the bugbears? Where do they fit in?
Yes, but how does steeling and returning things multiple times advantage you any? Kobalds would just push them out of their niche by being simply more competent if you as a DM take them at all serious
They don't just steal and return things, they do stuff to mess with the target's head and then take them for all they're worth when they're too brain-f$*!ed to do anything about it (at that point nothing gets returned). They're not dangerous in a "they'll eat our dogs and burn our babies" way (which I find silly and boring), but they can work to demoralize and rob a community blind over time because they're sneaky and their tricks look harmless and disorganized at first. Kobolds operate in different areas with different ways of organizing (setting traps, etc) so they're not going to step on each other's toes.
It works in my world, with my players. It may not in yours. That is okay.
But gentlemen, what about the bugbears? Where do they fit in?
They devour us all while we're too busy arguing which version of monsters are best at what.
Yo guys someone give this man (the Pox) a prize. Dude is 100% on the money so far as I'm concerned.
Not so far as I'm aware.
Is shadow somehow showing up as blocked for anyone else's PM's?
Should not be, I hot your last PM.
Nice first potential crit of the game.
It is as of a few hours ago I noticed you were labeled as blocked
I was going to make a note of the ability being a free action and also ask if we can take
Multiple drawbacks
No just one Drawback.
Current battle strategy: Run and let the fighters do all the work.
Future tactics: Hide, let the fighters distract them, then jump in and drive my daggers/Crossbow into their back.
Mostly this is because I currently have no chance in combat.
Also, You may note that in Pathfinder, Neither the goblins or Kobold's have a penalty to Int. Goblins just choose Int as their dump stat. And Kobold have such a horrid penalty to Str they have to work together to make up for it.
You may also note that goblins in PF aren't always this happy joke. In ROTRL, one of the first side missions you come apon a man getting eaten alive by one of the little demons.
In my opinion the difference between goblins and kobolds is mostly just the Chaos and Law Alignment.
And they embody that. Kobold's in PF are also not really evil. Infact you come aopn plenty of Neutral Kobold throughout the AP's
I think what Paizo intended with the goblin was to make an entertaining enemy for new players to enjoy, not for the old D&D legacy players to remember.
Yo guys someone give this man (the Pox) a prize. Dude is 100% on the money so far as I'm concerned.
FWIW, while the Pox (the character) is a dude, the player (DeathQuaker) is female.
And thank you. :)
Well, Goblins still deserve the same fate as gnomes in my opinion.
*Fantasy race war intensified*
Races to be eradicated in the new world order, thus far:
Gnomes
Halflings
Goblins
Hail wholesale slaughter, hail to the Zhentarium!