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Does it really show that much? I hate looking like a nub >.< Nethys has knowledge domain, you know...

Does it really show that much? I hate looking like a nub >.< Nethys has knowledge domain, you know...

Not what I meant (outside of you specifically lamenting about practical experience). I was responding to you wanting Luke here due to his cleverness and skill. That's all.

you can never go wrong with cleverness and skill!

You're an optimist. We just leveled, you nub!

I prefer to think myself as a realist =)

Caveat four: I want to play a single, short module with you, first. The characters in the module will not be the characters you use in RotR - instead, you know that second 20th level class you chose three features from? That one? Yeah, I want you to make a single-classed 11th level character from that class.

Uuuummmm, Usawoti is still level 11, When did we level?

Oh dear....I think TL forgot to send you a PM...

As close as we get?

yep, it's all cool though, I will get him up to 12, with TL's permission of course!

Hey Mort, I'm drawing a blank here, does any of the Shaman Hex's strike you as more beneficial. I'm considering 'shape shifting' but I'm open to suggestions!

Oh dear....I think TL forgot to send you a PM...

But... but... I thought it was just a normal level-up and straight-forward...

yep, it's all cool though, I will get him up to 12, with TL's permission of course!

Of course!

Things Usawoti Needs to Do:
- Naming Story
- Level Up

;P

... that said, I never got an answer on that, either way...

>.>

*tail twitches*

I'd just go for evil eye. Shapeshifting at this high level - you may run into DR quite some and I don't think you have an amulet of mighty fists to deal with it.

Also, have you thought about the issues you may have casting while shapeshifted? All animals cannot speak - did you think about how you're going to cast spells while shifted?

Not to mention - the Somantic component part of the spell, unless you're going ape :P

Also, what happened to your spell component pouch again, while shifted?

Yeah, non humanoids really got the short end of the equipment and spellcasting stick.

There's a reason why natural spell is one of those feats wildshaping druids take.

TL - I think since you didn't say in discussion you level up, he forgot to level up.

Also, urm. Yeah I suppose I have had quite some practice at casting when all I have is paws, but again...

I always felt that lunar oracles got the short end of the stick because they can't pick up wildshape, and their form of the beast works revelation works like wildshape.

Form of the Beast (Su): As a standard action, you can assume the form of a Small or Medium animal, as beast shape I. At 9th level, you can assume the form of a Tiny or Large animal, as beast shape II.
At 11th level, you can assume the form of a Diminutive or Huge animal or a Small or Medium magical beast, as beast shape III. At 13th level, you can assume the form of a Tiny or Large magical beast, as beast shape IV. You can use this ability once per day, but the duration is 1 hour/level. You must be at least 7th level to select this revelation.

Yeah sorry, I felt it was more appropriate to post as a leopard.

... that said, I never got an answer on that, either way...

>.>

On Which?

But... but...

Also, Usawoti, you'll want to look at Gameplay...

Well unless you use it as alter self, then you get to skip all those problems and just get a +2 size bonus to your str. That actually might work.

But don't take animal forms until you look through the process carefully, because it might hinder your spellcasting, not to mention your armor won't shift over, leaving you very vulnerable.

... that said, I never got an answer on that, either way...

>.>

On Which?

On my incredibly vague,

Oh, one more thing: you guys teeeeeeeechnically have almost earned enough XP for a second level. You'll probably hit that after a couple more big battles. If you'd rather wait, that's fine - just let me know. You're going to have some mild... "respite" (of a sort) for a rather significant amount of in-game time, so there's no rush on that account. How rapid you want that time to pass, however, is up to you.

(I was trying to ask if you wanted to level now, or wait until later.)

But it doesn't matter, now.

By the way: the two of you just leveled.

(Luke is... not going to be behind.)

Did we just level again?

If we did, I need to PM you to handle how to deal with the dragon side of levelling. Bard, no problem.

The whole shebang about non human shapeshifting:

When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function). Items that require activation cannot be used while you maintain that form. While in such a form, you cannot cast any spells that require material components (unless you have the Eschew Materials or Natural Spell feat), and can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon. Other polymorph spells might be subject to this restriction as well, if they change you into a form that is unlike your original form (subject to GM discretion). If your new form does not cause your equipment to meld into your form, the equipment resizes to match your new size.

Did we just level again?

Yes.

Leveling complete.

ok so what level should Usawoti be?

13.

So yes, we get regenerate.

I also have locate creature, so I can spam the hell out of it to find Shuuvu.

To be honest my spells gave me a problem as well.

Just a sneakpeak on how my thinking process went:

This is so weird. I end up with the wizard spell list(some say the best in the game), then I don't really know what to do with it :P

Evocation spells - why bother when my full round attack beats any kind of evocation. Or my breath weapon does as well. If I want fear, I already get it as an at will ability...

I'll probably take locate creature. The other runner up was communal protection from energy, but at 80 points of absorption from being only a 8th level sorcerer, it's not really worth it. Black tentacles...yeah with Caster level +8, I am not catching anyone...

Stoneskin isn't of any use to me since I don't have the components for it, and I already have dimension door and greater invisibility from my bard.

Level 3 spell for bard is probably see invisibility.
Level 5 spell for bard greater dispel magic. Cloak of dreams sounds nice but will screw Usawoti over since he needs to be near and behind me to attack.

Lv 13 feat - currently clueless - I have like every single feat I'd ever want for a melee beatstick, due to my gestalt. Power attack? Check. Arcane strike? Check. Improved Initiative? Check. Toughness? Check. Multi attack? Only my tailslap is secondary.

13.

So yes, we get regenerate.

I also have locate creature, so I can spam the hell out of it to find Shuuvu.

OK, level 13, going to go change some paper work, If Usawoti is using the plant lady he can tell where Shuvuu is. Do you want her back or do you want Usawoti to hang on to her?

You're the one who gets along better with the ladies ;) And I should be able to make the fort save when you heal me, anyway.

To be honest, I don't care either way.

I LIVE AGAIN!

Be not afraid - for terrible things will soon happen to some very bad creatures ;-)

(Sadly that may be all I can do for a little while, as working nights is knocking me for six, and I have a fairly large number of posts to wade through on the IC thread...)

ooooohhhhhhhhh.... I meant "oooooohhhhhh" Nope, nope, still not good enough! "OOOOOHHHHHHHH" Yeah, that better!

Welcome back Golan!

WB Luke!

*Huggles*

*takes notes not to cast Haste on Golan*

But borrowed time is such a cool mechanic. Really.

Ok Inarus, thank you for your generosity with the Baby Grut I mean flower ring, with you permission Usawoti will wear it until we actually find Shuvuu

Usawoti is thirteenth level, I still need to figure our his new feat and what spells he will prepare but we can at least get a few answers and rest so we can then update spells...

Love the RP!

Heads up, I'm out of town, and no clear indication of if/when I'll have good internet access again (posting this from my phone quickly before church, which starts in ~30 minutes).

Sorry if I'm out for a day! Will respond when I can.

Luke, too, can feel free to pop in at any time... but there is no rush!

EDIT: well it was thirty minutes, when I started reading. Seven, now... XD

So, I'm back!

... with really carpy internet.

Because, like the fish, it flops uselessly back and forth gasping for breath.

That said, we are on Spring Break, which is great, but also means my free time is going to be substantially less - I should still be able to maintain updates, but it may be spotty this week, as a result.

That said, I look forward to updating the game today, but only when I have time. Sadly, right now, I'm just passing through.

So, question of the day: if you, personally, could be any:
- Pathfinder PC race
- Pathfinder base class
- Pathfinder mythic path
- Pathfinder prestige class
- Pathfinder bestiary creature
- Pathfinder mythic simple template
... what would you be, and why?

Sample answers (using only 'a' things):
- race: aasimar
- class: alchemsit
- path: archmage
- prestige: assassin
- bestiary: angel
- template: agile

This could be as simple as that, or as complex as (with non-a words, 'cause I'm distracted and in a hurry):

- race: aasimar alchemsist assassin
- class: dwarf arcanist archmage
- path: guardian elf wizard arcane archer
<snip>
- bestiary: mythic agile angel deva champion
- template: arcane archon hound oracle

... or whatever!

Fun question while you're doing stuff! Enjoy!

See you ask questions like this assuming you covered the parameters.
"Au contraire mon fraire!"

Are we in Golarion?
Are we here?
Are we in a different setting?
Are we from this world knowing what we know here, and going there and it's a real world with real people and real problems?
Are we from here going there in a game and we know it's all make believe and we can just take our vacation and come back to reality. Like'Westworld'?
Are we from there without knowing about here?

Race: Aasimar - flexible boosts to physical and mental stat rocks, scion of humanity lets you take human FCBs. And you get to grow wings at 11 with the right feat tree.
Class: Oracle - I like divine casting. Especially with splat books. I've never been too comfortable worshipping any god, honestly. Not to mention you said base class, so it'd be APG class only.
Mythic path:Archmage - I think there's an arcana that lets you cast every single spell in the world. I know I should take heirophant(since it applies to divine casters), but I heard archmage path has nicer things
Prestidge class:Nature warden - I like my fluffy friends? What can I say?

Template:agile - he who wins init wins everything.

Creature, I need to think first.

Oh yes, I'm due a visit to the wall. Reason being: I've seen too many threads about paladins falling or GM taking clerics/inquisitors powers for "not following tenents of their god". Id rather not have my entire class subject to GM fiat, thank you very much.

And I don't like people telling me what to do. Yes, I have an obstinate streak in me.

Creature:Expect for something over the top as I start combing the bestiaries. It may be some CE demon god lol, or maybe even the tarrasque.

Chances are itll probably be for defensive/evasive abilities.

Yes, I have a powerful inner munchkin.

See you ask questions like this assuming you covered the parameters.

"Au contraire mon fraire!"

*Ahem*

... or whatever!

;P

EDIT:

Also:

if you, personally,

... so, make of those what you will, just so long as you communicate the basics to us.

Not to mention you said base class, so it'd be APG class only.

Okay, PF being overly specific with their terms has made communication difficult between players of older editions and this one.

"Base class" used to mean (and still does, to me) "any non-prestige class."

Otherwise, that's fair.

Mythic path:Archmage - I think there's an arcana that lets you cast every single spell in the world. I know I should take heirophant(since it applies to divine casters), but I heard archmage path has nicer things

To the best of my memory it 1) only works if you're not a spellcaster, but have a caster level; 2) requires a similar heirophant ability, 3) doesn't cover psychic spellcasting (so the psychic sorcerer bloodline is out).

So basically rogues with minor arcana (or better) and other creatures with SLA (and thus CL) plus dual path.

But that's just memory.

dude, now you hurt my brain, so going to work will think more on this, probably will figure it out in six hours or so...but class, paladin or ranger, depending if I want to be lawful or not. I can follow a code as long as I believe in it... will think more...

I stayed up late working on the answers, I posted it, cleared my Microsoft page 'cause I was done...and the internet ate my answers...They may get reposted... *walks away grumbling on way to bed*

:(

About Inner munchkins:

I’m sorry, I grew up on Neverwinter Nights etc…so my first “tabletop” experience wasn’t exactly tabletop. Thus since it’s a PC game, you try to give yourself as many bonuses as you can so you can go around being bad@ss.

I’m also…more of a trickster then a straight up fighter, and like any cat, endlessly curious about things. I also dislike doing my own dirtywork (i.e I don’t really care much about straight up smackdowns). My preferred playstyle is generally to prank creatures, tie them up in knots, then watch my allies finish the job.

Did I tell you about my wil’o’wisp unchained rogue before?

I thought the 29 dex was…the kind of thing that could be abused, and honestly I thought it was very amusing to have a little ball with 1 str slamming into you by improved unarmed strike dealing 1d4+9 pts of damage, base. I even did dragon style, but boards said it doesn’t work, you don’t get 1.5x strength modifier to dex. The idea was to get snake fang(required old Master Of Many styles before Errata), combat reflexes, so each time someone misses me(a lot, since Wil-o-wisps have high AC), then you get to AOO for each one. Since you have like 10 AOOs per round.

Or my life oracle arbiter, with lifelink. I’d say blame the GM for saying that all your items are randomized, you start at level 3. Pathfinder works with the assumption that you have a CLW wand to handle out of combat healing. So I thought about it, and then came up with the idea that if you had regeneration, you would have your out of combat healing settled, since your regeneration would only be stopped by chaotic damage, you could technically be an endless fountain of healing.

So when you asked me about favourite bestiary creature, I’m sorry but I am going bestiary a-hunting for all kinds of funky cool abilities I never got to play with. Because, hey, how often do you get to roll a monster class?

Yes, Robert, I have a large streak of mad scientist in me…

I made my local PFS lodge stare when I lopped off hydra heads while flying on 20 ft reach. What can you say when you have light armor, and know that a straight up fight is going to end badly?

This one has potential..

I mean being a 6-armed flying robot of doom isn't too bad...

I wondered what happens if you get a moss troll(regeneration 5/fire), them give it fire immumity - sorcerer bloodline, oracle revelations/cleric fire domain...them take diehard, and deathless line. Does that mean you can't die?

Of course TL, if I'm over the top, then please limit me by stating a CR limit.

Yes, Robert, I have a large streak of mad scientist in me…

LOL, I never doubted it!

Nethys believes knowing everything. You must open your mind, be willing to pay any price, before you can truly see.

Of course, in a call of Cthullu game, that's probably the fastest way to become a raving, insane lunatic.

I wondered what happens if you get a moss troll(regeneration 5/fire), them give it fire immumity - sorcerer bloodline, oracle revelations/cleric fire domain...them take diehard, and deathless line. Does that mean you can't die?

Depends on which edition, and how much errata is "maintained" - in 3rd (which was explicitly ported to 3.5... sort of) granting a creature with regeneration/<X> immunity to <X> changed the regeneration to fast healing.

That's just sucky.

And by "sort of" I mean they never technically answered the question, but they just kind of assumed that, "Yeah, it works like that, maybe, sort of, except when it doesn't. Look, we already made the decision that it follows the rules, as noted here." except for the fact that it didn't quite work that way anymore...

PF may or may not consider older editions canon; it seems that it totally does, except for all the places that it doesn't, and one of my gripes with Paizo (which isn't, strictly speaking, a fault of theirs - it'd be really hard to do) is that they don't clarify all of the intentional changes from 3.X to PF, and just kind of leave them for you to figure out, until they hit you upside the head with a FAQrrata and say, "No, it was totally always meant to be that way (even when our wording was off, or it explicitly didn't function like that in older APs, and was explicitly ruled differently in those older editions)." and players who came from the other system kind of question why we came here, until we remember the advertising, "3.5 Lives Thrives!" which, you know, becomes kind of false advertising...

... anyway, it's a confusing mess, is what I'm saying.

By strictly PF RAW, yeah, it can't die... if to take care of its need to eat, breath, and sleep... maybe... unless those things don't kill it... unless they do...

... it's a mess of interpretation, is what I'm saying.

Of course TL, if I'm over the top, then please limit me by stating a CR limit.

I'unno. This is just a fun question.

If you want a CR limit, you could always roll a 1d30 ⇒ 14?

*Waves at TL and Mort* Hi guys, I will retype my answer and post it soon, It's more about the type of hero's I like or want to be. So I will redo it ... I hope it both answers the question and entertains...

Oh no! Maruts are CR 15. Kolyrauts can't teleport or fly!

This might take a while....

What if I fell to the dark side?

Hmm. I need to consider this carefully...

By the way, please feel free to post. That mist may be weird, but neither of you know, exactly, what is going on with it, and it may or may not do something any time soon.

I mean, it's hung out there for, like, four and a half hours, and it's slowly getting thicker, so it's probably not going anywhere...

Sleep more, I've had a pretty fked up day ;)

I knew I should have taken echolocation as spells known.....:p

Need to read and consider the situation first. And I cant comb bestiaries and gameplay at the same time. Which one takes priority, oh great GM? ;)

Nevermind, got gameplay post out. Now back to the bestiaries...undead creatures really have such cool immunities, and syncs very well with the high Cha from oracle.

Problem is I don't want to have peasants pointing pitchforks and torches everytime I go into town...might need something like a Greater Hat of Disguise

The only problem with that is that it's all fun and games until an inquisitor of Pharasma comes along...

This time I will type it on my ‘Usawoti’ document and save it forever, mua ha ha!

On a separate note: It’s interesting, Mort sent me a test on a website that calculated what D&D class you would be. No surprise, in my mind, that it came back ‘cleric.’ I believe if it had a more in depth test for pathfinder characters it would have come back ‘oracle,’ just my opinion. So when we talk about what I would want to be it comes back to those ‘hero’s” I have always idolized. Because if I could be something I am not, I would want to be a hero.

So, question of the day: if you, personally, could be any:

This could be as simple as that, or as complex as (with non-a words, 'cause I'm distracted and in a hurry):
... or whatever!
Fun question while you're doing stuff! Enjoy!
... what would you be, and why?

Now there are two types of hero’s that I have always idolized. I think both, in some ways, have captured the hearts of many. I said types, it may be tropes or even archetypes. Some may call them the “hero” and the “anti-hero” the terms I like are “the night in shining armor” and the “Lone wolf.”

It started early with the stories of “King Arthur and the knights of the round table” and “Robin Hood and his Merry Men.” The fact that I watched a lot of westerns also adds to the list. Do you realize that in the 60’s they had a western tv show called “The Paladin.” My favorite characters being some done by John Wayne and Clint Eastwood. But the best representative were the main characters from the movie “Tombstone:” ‘Doc’ Holiday and Wyatt Earp.

Then I started reading fantasy. Edgar Rice Burroughs ‘Tarzan’ and ‘John Carter of Mars’ being the epitome of traditional hero’s and Robert E. Howards ‘Conan’ and ‘Solomon Cane’ taking the less traditional roles. It was from Howard that I learned to ‘not trust a wizard’ though they got to be the bad guys in a lot of other stories. For what it’s worth Michael Moorcocks ‘Elric’ helped me love wizards just a little!

Even the comic books that I collected in the 70’s were contrasting these ‘types.’ The ‘Avengers’ contrasted Captain America with Hawkeye and later the ‘X-Men’ with Cyclops and Wolverine.

So When I played AD&D in college I played one archetype or the other: “The Knight in Shining Armor” and the “Lone Wolf.” Both were melee, both were heroic, both had the potential to be leaders of men.

In my Experience very few characters have been able to be both well. The exception in fiction would be Tolkien’s “Aragorn.” Of course the biblical character David also comes to mind; being first a shepherd, then ‘shield bearer’ of the king, then an outlaw and finally king himself.

Without Further delay:

”The Knight in Shining Armor”
- Pathfinder PC race: Aasimar: Angel Blooded
- Pathfinder base class: Paladin: Warrior of the Holy Light
- Pathfinder mythic path: Champion
- Pathfinder prestige class: Celestial Knight
- Pathfinder bestiary creature: Pseudodragon
- Pathfinder mythic simple template: Divine

The Lone Wolf”
- Pathfinder PC race; Skin Walker: Witch Wolf
- Pathfinder base class: Ranger: Trapper
- Pathfinder mythic path: Champion
- Pathfinder prestige class: Horizon Walker
- Pathfinder bestiary creature: Faerie Dragon
- Pathfinder mythic simple template: Savage