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Adventure is: traveling, seeing new things, and most of all meeting new people! Every day is an adventure if we have but the eyes to see it. Love life, love yourself!

A witch of Shelyn for consideration


Crunch and background are finished. Aada is ready. :D

Liberty's Edge

Tangaroa wrote:
He just means that he hasn't committed to anyone yet. There was someone who was discouraged by other folks coordinating characters - I think Nebten was just trying to prevent that sort of discouragement (but not necessarily the coordination).

Thank you thank you!

Dark Archive

Den: About the big cat, I don't know. I'll have to research it. As for the trait, that should be fine.

Tangaroa, thank you clearing up that issue.

This seems to be a reoccurring question so I want to clarify here: Drawbacks.

I will roll the Drawback AFTER the character has been selected and the character is locked in. I want the drawback to actually mean something. If you made the super-duper bard with Diplo up the wazzo, then get the -2 to Diplo drawback, then gotta live with it. Kinda like Renée Zellweger's face.


Den Sarment wrote:
GM - I'm looking at the lion shaman archetype but wonder if there is a better big cat for the Verduran Forest? Lynx?

If I might, a cougar/mountain lion could be a good fit. or a smaller bobcat. Lynx should be more northern latitudes.


@ Nebten:

Here is Khîrgaal for your consideration. He is a crossblooded sorcerer pretty much along the lines of Juraan here. I can make a new alias for him easily enough, if selected.

Khîrgaal build notes:
I've designed him to be really blasty with acid energy attacks in particular. Mostly because acid resistance isn't as common as fire resistance. I used the Half-Orc alternate racial traits of Sacred Tattoo (to offset the WILL penalty), Skilled (just because I like having as many skill points as I can get), and City Raised, for the Knowledge (local) boost.

That meant giving up darkvision, ferocity and orc weapon proficiency. But those alternate racial traits will make up for the class drawbacks of a -2 WILL penalty, and a shortage of skill points. The lack of proficiency with Greataxes and Falchions isn't a bit deal either, since sorcerers are nigh on useless in melee anyway.

I also built him as taking the Human sorcerer FCB of an extra spell per level. Which will make up for the fact he gets 1 less spell per spell level than a normal sorcerer.

I also gave him two metamagic feats so he can make use of spell slots when he doesn't actually have spells in them. So, if he makes it to level 8, he would have no 4th level spells known. But, he still has four spell slots for fourth level spells. For example, he could Fireball using Elemental Spell (Acid), so it would use a 4th level spell slot. As well as becoming a fire ball that does 8d6+16 acid damage instead of 8d6 fire (muahahaha!)

Anyway, that's my rationale for building him as I've got him. I know a lot of players really don't like the crossblooded sorcerer archetype at all because of the penalties of fewer spells and -2 to WILL. But I think they can be pretty impressive blasters if put together right and proper.

No backstory as yet, but that shouldn't take too long. I also used the random trait chooser in Ultimate Campaign. I didn't have to, but I like using the random element for traits. Just because it individualizes a character a bit better.

If you want to pick a drawback at random for an extra trait, I'm cool with that too.

Khîrgaal crunch:

Hero Labs output, with a few alterations to make things clearer.

Male half-orc sorcerer (crossblooded, wildblooded) 7 (Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Magic 69, 70)
CN Medium humanoid (human, orc)
Init +2; Senses Perception +6
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Defense
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AC 13, touch 12, flat-footed 11 (+2 Dex, +1 natural)
hp 44 (7d6+14)
Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +4
Resist acid 5
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee unarmed strike +4 (1d3+1 nonlethal)
Sorcerer Spell-Like Abilities (CL 7th; concentration +9)
5/day—elemental ray (1d6+3 acid)
Sorcerer (Crossblooded, Wildblooded) Spells Known (CL 7th; concentration +9)
3rd (4/day)—fireball (DC 16), fly
2nd (7/day)—aggressive thundercloud[ACG] (DC 15), flaming sphere (DC 15), frigid touch[UM], scorching ray (acid), summon swarm
1st (7/day)—burning hands (acid) (DC 14), corrosive touch[UM], mage armor, magic missile, magic weapon, shocking grasp, vanish[APG] (DC 13)
0 (at will)—acid splash, arcane mark, dancing lights, detect magic, disrupt undead, light, mage hand, mending, read magic
Bloodlines: Draconic (Copper), Primal (Earth)
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Statistics
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Str 12, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 15
Base Atk +3; CMB +4; CMD 16
Feats Elemental Spell[APG], Eschew Materials, Point-Blank Shot, Reach Spell[APG], Spell Focus (evocation), Toughness
Traits brute (apg), reluctant apprentice
Skills Appraise +7, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +4, Intimidate +10, Knowledge (arcana) +8, Knowledge (planes) +7, Linguistics +5, Perception +6, Sense Motive +3, Spellcraft +12, Use Magic Device +12; Racial Modifiers +2 Intimidate
Languages Abyssal, Common, Draconic, Dwarven, Elven, Orc, Terran
SQ bloodline arcana (energy spells that match bloodline energy deal +1 damage per die), orc blood
Other Gear (pending)
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Tracked Resources
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Elemental Ray (1d6+3 acid, 5/day) (Sp) - 0/5
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Special Abilities
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Bloodline Arcana: Draconic (Ex) +1 damage per die for [Acid] spells.
Primal (Earth) +1 damage per die for [Acid] spells.
Elemental Ray (1d6+3 acid, 5/day) (Sp) As a standard action, ranged touch attack deals damage to foe.
Elemental Spell (Acid) You can cast a spell with half or all its damage type replaced with this feat's damage type.
Energy Resistance, Acid (5) You have the specified Energy Resistance against Acid attacks.
Eschew Materials Cast spells without materials, if component cost is 1 gp or less.
Orc Blood Half-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.
Point-Blank Shot +1 to attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at up to 30 feet.
Reach Spell You can cast a spell with a range of touch, close, or medium as one range category higher.
Spell Focus (Evocation) Spells from one school of magic have +1 to their save DC.
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RANDOM ULTIMATE CAMPAIGN BACKGROUND
Race: Half-Orc
Class: Sorcerer
Homeland: City or Metropolis. Civilized social trait & Vagabond Child regional traits
Parents: Only your mother is alive.
Siblings: One half-orc sibling
Birth, Lower-Class Birth: Poverty-Stricken social trait.
Family upbringing, Serfs/Peasants: Poverty- Stricken social trait.
Childhood Event, Academy Training: Focused Mind magic trait.
Adolescence, Failed Wizard: At an early age, you were pushed toward wizardry as the conduit for your magic. Reluctant Apprentice magic trait.
Influence, The Mentor: Mentored social trait.

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Okay, I thing I'm ready with this one. Pretty generic Elf Druid, worships Erastil. Hope everything's set up correctly (if anyone more experienced wants to give it a once-over and some constructive criticism, now's your chance).


Well, your Wisdom is pretty low. Your spells are based off of that, and I would put down a spot on there where you have your spells currently prepared for the day. However, outside of that, your crunch is very well organized.


dot.


to Guillaume:

Something like

Str 13 , Dex 14 , Con 12 , Int 12, Wis 15 , Cha 8

Would serve you a lot better. Or maybe

Str 14 , Dex 14 , Con 12 , Int 10, Wis 15 , Cha 8

Remember, when you wildshape you get a boost to your physical stats to help in combat a bit. I approve of toughness.

The important bit is that the spell level you can cast is limited by Wis - 10. This adventure will net you 5th level spells (character level 9). So 15 is nice, and if you went for offensive magic, higher is better. Druids have lots of solid nonoffensive buffs, so you can survive. OTOH, you can also apply stat bumps at 4 or 8, or grab items.

Grand Lodge

This is Jastheriga Amora.
ElterAgo's one of the siblings.

Still working on the fluff.


Aada Bladotter wrote:
Well, your Wisdom is pretty low. Your spells are based off of that, and I would put down a spot on there where you have your spells currently prepared for the day. However, outside of that, your crunch is very well organized.

The AP goes to level 7, right? I figure I'd only be hitting 4th level spells at the very last level, so starting at 12 and bumping to 13 at level 5 would mean not losing out on any spells until the very end, and by then hopefully I could acquire a headband to finish out. I was thinking more of a companion/wildshape focus than casting anyway, so even if I lose that 1 4th level spell/day at level 7 it's not a huge loss.


to Ouachitonian:

You're right; this goes to 7th, not 9th. My mistake!

Still, spells are awesome. They're like superpowers, and IMHO rough to miss out or ignore.

If you are going to ignore them, I'm just going to throw this out as an option; it would be a pretty drastic rework of your character, though. You might want to consider switching to a hunter class from the ACG. More fighting ability, less magic.


Tangaroa wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

That did occur to me, but Nebten said only books 2013 and before in the first post.


*facepalm* Right, right... oops. Ignore that suggestion then.
Carry on then.


@ Nebten:

Hi! I wasn't paying attention at all when I posted my submission for Khîrgaal.

I should have made it for a level 1 character, not 7!

I threw that profile together without nearly enough caffeine in my system.

Here is my submission, done right and proper, for level one this time:

Still a crossblooded Half-Orc sorcerer with the Draconic (Copper) & Primal (Earth) bloodlines:

Submission Crunch:

Khîrgaal

Male half-orc sorcerer (crossblooded, wildblooded) 1 (Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Magic 69, 70)
CN Medium humanoid (human, orc)
Init +2; Senses Perception +4
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Defense
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AC 12, touch 12, flat-footed 10 (+2 Dex)
hp 7 (1d6+1)
Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +1
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Sorcerer Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +3)
5/day—elemental ray (1d6 acid)
Sorcerer (Crossblooded, Wildblooded) Spells Known (CL 1st; concentration +3)
1st (4/day)—color spray (DC 13)
0 (at will)—acid splash, dancing lights, detect magic, disrupt undead
Bloodline Draconic, Primal
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Statistics
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Str 12, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 15
Base Atk +0; CMB +1; CMD 13
Feats Eschew Materials, Point-Blank Shot
Traits influence, unscathed
Skills Diplomacy +3, Intimidate +4, Knowledge (arcana) +5, Perception +4, Spellcraft +5, Use Magic Device +6; Racial Modifiers +2 Intimidate
Languages Common, Draconic, Orc
SQ bloodline arcana (energy spells that match bloodline energy deal +1 damage per die), orc blood
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Tracked Resources
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Elemental Ray (1d6 acid, 5/day) (Sp) - 0/5
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Special Abilities
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Bloodline Arcana: Draconic (Ex) +1 damage per die for [Acid] spells.
Primal (Earth): +1 damage per die for [Acid] spells.
Elemental Ray (1d6 acid, 5/day) (Sp) As a standard action, ranged touch attack deals damage to foe.
Eschew Materials Cast spells without materials, if component cost is 1 gp or less.
Orc Blood Half-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.
Point-Blank Shot +1 to attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at up to 30 feet.

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RANDOM ULTIMATE CAMPAIGN BACKGROUND (to pick two random traits)
Race: Half-Orc
Class: Sorcerer
Homeland: Subterranean. Scrapper race or Surface Stranger regional traits
Parents: Both are dead; Orphaned social trait
Siblings: None.
Birth, Bastard Born: Bastard social trait
Family upbringing, Yeomen: Savanna Child regional trait
Childhood Event, Competition Champion: Influence (Diplomacy) social trait
Adolescence, Unharmed: You were exposed to something dangerous, but survived entirely unscathed. Unscathed magic trait.
Influence, The Relative: Oathbound faith trait.

Cunning plans etcetera:

• Sacred Tattoos to make up a bit for the -2 to WILL that crossblooded sorcerers are stuck with
• Chain fighter because he would be useless with greataxes or falchions with his STR of 12
• Acid splash will be a mainstay low level weapon (+3 to hit 1d3+3 damage, with inexhaustible ammunition)
• Colour Spray is an awesome low level spell

I made the profile with Hero Labs. I skipped Player Companion and Adventure Path materials, to avoid anything obscure you won't want.

Anyone's input (read: constructive criticism) would be welcome too.

Thanks!


voodoo chili wrote:
.......ight, a cougar/mountain lion could be a good fit. or a smaller bobcat. Lynx should be more northern latitudes.

Cougar it is then. I did wonder about the thylacine which I've met in Kingmaker.

Cheers and understood Nebten re the Drawback.

Dark Archive

Hello there friends.

I hope everybody had a good weekend and those lucky few who have an extended one, enjoy it. From a brief glance, there are a lot of excellent submissions. I'll be crunching numbers here over the next two days. If anybody is using Hero Lab, if you could send me the file of your PC that would make life easier. Email is my screen name @ yahoo.com. Yah, I really own up to the name =vD.

Unless a flurry of further interest develops soon, I'll probably select the party and get the game rolling this week.

PS: I'll probably add this in case it makes a difference to those wanting to join. While there is no lack of treasure in this adventure, you really won't be able to liquidate all of it for coin so that you can custom create your magic items. Its not that "I" won't let you, the nearest town just isn't that big to doll out the coin to cover big ticket items or have the ability to create a +1 adamantine keen giant-bane falchion. So this adventure gives a bit of old school flavor with using what you have creatively.


Siblings?

Did we want to have the kin guardian trait initially as an alternative trait.
For crunch that is what I have done so far, listing it and another trait depending on the outcome of recruitment.

I have also selected a non-teamwork feat initially and held off on a teamwork feat until third level....otherwise we are making a bad assumption that we are all in the game.

Plus it gives us more time to determine which feat or feats we want to get. If there is an us left to decide anything!

Damn DCFS!

Spoiler:
Division of Children and Family Services


Hmmm, that is one big belated family you guys are creating. Aada don't judge ;D


dotting..


Aada Bladotter wrote:
Hmmm, that is one big belated family you guys are creating. Aada don't judge ;D

Who knows DM might come along and tell us we are all related!!!


We all the same with the lights turned off lol XD


Den Sarment wrote:
Cougar it is then. I did wonder about the thylacine which I've met in Kingmaker.

Thylacine would be kinda fun and freaky- scoobyRoo! he could carry his own snacks in his pouch : )

KenderKin wrote:
Siblings? Did we want to have the kin guardian trait initially as an alternative trait.

I took the community domain which allows me to cure nonlethal, fatigued, shaken and sickened conditions of members of my little 'caravan' (party). There's a cooperation subdomain under that which allows me to share my teamwork feats, but with a cleric's limited number of feats, and maybe needing one of those for an item creation feat, prob won't be able to take a teamwork feat*

*should Xylas be chosen, of course.


going with a half-elf Fighter (two-weapon), with no stat below 12.


@ Nebten: I sent you my POR file for Khîrgaal.

Thanks.

Grand Lodge

Nebten, HL file sent.
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KenderKin wrote:

Siblings?

Did we want to have the kin guardian trait initially as an alternative trait.
For crunch that is what I have done so far, listing it and another trait depending on the outcome of recruitment.

I have also selected a non-teamwork feat initially and held off on a teamwork feat until third level....otherwise we are making a bad assumption that we are all in the game.

Plus it gives us more time to determine which feat or feats we want to get. If there is an us left to decide anything!

I went ahead and took kin guardian and a teamwork trait (I can certainly change it if you guys prefer another). I figured that if we aren't together, Nebten would let me change them.


AZ's Half-Elf Fighter Submission


Lady Ladile here, submitting this monk for consideration. All relevant information should be on the profile and I'll have the Hero Lab file on the way in just a moment. Thanks and looking forward to seeing who is chosen; it looks like it'll be a fun group no matter what :)

Liberty's Edge

I downloaded Hero Lab to create the character, but it says I don't have the APG module and can't add my archetype...


@ Haruf: do you just have the freebie version of HL? There isn't much you can create with that. The license and then all the expansion rules to plug into it will cost.


Hello, I have had some experience with Pathfinder and have written a few short stories here and there, and I would like to try PbP.

I was thinking about playing a Chaotic Neutral Half-Elf or Human Magus with the Eldritch Archer archetype. A rough construction of the concept can be found here under the name Jacqueline Grimshaw

Dark Archive

Jur, Jas & Cal, emails received. Thank you. Of course, I don't know why Juraan keeps trying to sell me Viagra now and Calli wants me to go to her webcam show. Maybe when I have time. Will there be magic or kittens there? Honestly, the internet is made of kitten videos.

Now this is just me thinking out loud.

Not that this is a bad thing, but I'm seeing a lot of half-orc submissions. Typically H'orcs are not a popular race. Am I missing something? Are they suddenly the OP CharOp OMGWTFBBQroxxors race now? The only thing I remember worth while about orc blood was some spell that allowed people to rage and then sack HP to do massive amounts of damage.

Oh and a clarification: divine casters not only need to worship a deity but the PC's alignment needs to be within one step of the deity's alignment. Example: Estril is LG, so casters need to be either LG, LN or NG.

OK, back into the dungeon. Manilow, take me away...


Partial Submission list (Group by class)

Ollom Male Dwarf Ranger

Ayla Female Half-Elf Fighter
Kale Female Human Fighter

Calli Female Human Monk

Aada Female Human Cleric
Xylas Male Half-elf Cleric

Guillaume Male Elf Druid
Den Male Human Druid

Iulia Female Half-Elf witch
Jastheriga Changeling Witch

Bikgar Male Dwarf Sorcerer
Juraan Male Half-Orc Sorcerer

Haruf Male Half-Orc Rogue

Edit: updated to include missed half-orc


Thanks Aurora!

@Nebten - Kitten videos? Ask and ye shall receive!

Liberty's Edge

@ Aurora
You forgot me, love.

Male Half-Orc Rogue

Nebten wrote:
Not that this is a bad thing, but I'm seeing a lot of half-orc submissions.

The Half-Orc for me is for the bite extra attack. It could easily be changed, as it only deals 1d4 extra damage.


nice job on the linked list!

Yeah, the number of half-ELF characters submitted is really surprising. I almost never see elves or half-elves. I don't think H'elves rate favorably compared to humans at all- same ability boost, but no bonus feat or skill rank...

I suppose it just comes down to character concept or maybe there's a really lusty elf luring all the women folk away.

GM:
Just checking if the alignment statement was directed at Xylas, but he is NG which is one step from Erastil's LG, yes?


List updated to include the missing half-orc.

I thought I had everyone, sans the paladins whom required GM review....

Submission Analysis:

Race:
Human: 4 (25% Male 75% Female)
Half-Elf: 3(33% Male 66% Female)
Half-Orc: 2 (100% Male)
Dwarf: 2 (100% Male)
Changeling: 1 (100% Female)
Elf: 1 (100% Male)

Class Type:
Divine: 4
Assault: 3
Arcane: 2
Skilled: 1

Divine/Arcane: 2
Assault/Skilled: 1

Gender:
Male: 7
Female: 6


Nebten wrote:


Not that this is a bad thing, but I'm seeing a lot of half-orc submissions. Typically H'orcs are not a popular race. Am I missing something? Are they suddenly the OP CharOp OMGWTFBBQroxxors race now? The only thing I remember worth while about orc blood was some spell that allowed people to rage and then sack HP to do massive amounts of damage.

OK, back into the dungeon. Manilow, take me away...

Not sure why so many half orcs. I really like half orcs. Dark vision, ferocity, flexible stat can even go into charisma....

Maybe Manilow is a half orc bard????


I just like Half-Orcs because they're way more flexible than the big and strong morons from years back in D&D.

They do have access (via ARG) of some cool racial traits. Namely Sacred Tattoos, Skilled, or Acute Darkvision.

Mind you, they definitely have a social handicap most places in the game.


I don't necessarily 'love' humans but in the grand scheme of things I've found that most of my general character concepts can be executed just fine with humans. By concept I don't necessarily mean in a mechanics sense, but more in the, 'Is this character being <insertracechoicehere> vital to their background/personality/outlook or will the idea work just as well as a standard human?'

Flavor-wise, I do like Halflings and Half-Elves from the Core races, the planetouched (Ifrit, Sylph, etc.), Changelings, Catfolk, Aasimars and Tieflings...huh, come to think of it, most of my other race preferences are largely human-like in appearance if not culture/outlook...

The Exchange

I like 'em all. But my first PC was a dwarf fighter so I have a soft spot for them.

Not so much the non Core races but I think that comes of coming from that "Old School". There are plenty of choices to play with all those Core races and umpteen classes and archetypes to keep me happy.

Cheers


Nebten wrote:

Jur, Jas & Cal, emails received. Thank you. Of course, I don't know why Juraan keeps trying to sell me Viagra now and Calli wants me to go to her webcam show. Maybe when I have time. Will there be magic or kittens there? Honestly, the internet is made of kitten videos.

Now this is just me thinking out loud.

Not that this is a bad thing, but I'm seeing a lot of half-orc submissions. Typically H'orcs are not a popular race. Am I missing something? Are they suddenly the OP CharOp OMGWTFBBQroxxors race now? The only thing I remember worth while about orc blood was some spell that allowed people to rage and then sack HP to do massive amounts of damage.

Oh and a clarification: divine casters not only need to worship a deity but the PC's alignment needs to be within one step of the deity's alignment. Example: Estril is LG, so casters need to be either LG, LN or NG.

OK, back into the dungeon. Manilow, take me away...

Fixed.


For clarification, Aada is an Evangelist Cleric of Calistria, not some ordinary cleric of the faith..... wait a second. *giggles*


Should we get into character with a mini-RP tavern thread?
i.e. use a discussion thread that gets servered off when the real game starts


@GM
what are your thoughts on the Background Skills system?

Dark Archive

I feel that system doesn't fall within the guidelines I provided.

Recruitment Closed for New Applicants

I'm in a toss up right now for the last slot. You guys aren't making it easy on me. I'll have the final party announced either tonight or in the morning. Important decisions shouldn't be made on an empty stomach.

And I like the idea of a thylacine for an animal companion, but I believe they are more canine then feline.


Noted Nebten

Thylacine description (potato/potartoe)

I'll look for an animal companion version because it is more Golarion-ish and I prefer that too.

Cheers

P.S. I've enjoyed this process - but I'm no fan of pub roleplay. Just my 2 pence worth now that the game is closed.

EDIT: Thylacine tracked, hunted and snagged!

Liberty's Edge

Nebten wrote:

I feel that system doesn't fall within the guidelines I provided.

Recruitment Closed for New Applicants

I'm in a toss up right now for the last slot. You guys aren't making it easy on me. I'll have the final party announced either tonight or in the morning. Important decisions shouldn't be made on an empty stomach.

And I like the idea of a thylacine for an animal companion, but I believe they are more canine then feline.

The suspense!


Ah, the waiting game.

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