The Great Hunt (Inactive)

Game Master DEWN MOU'TAIN

submission due date is Monday, dec 6th

UtDB wrote:

Every character that starts the game as a Warder-in-Training, or has spent time around Warders/Blademasters/Sword Form users knows Level 1 and 2 Sword Forms.

I guess that seems like a class Skill.

@RIZZENMAGNUS for the woodsman partial improved initiative would you accept a version of the Gunslinger Initiative? "if she has the Quick Draw feat, her hands are free and unrestrained, and the firearm is not hidden, she can draw a single firearm as part of the initiative check."

My Build does not currently have Quickdraw, but I could make room.

let's just say that the Woodsman gets the quick draw feat in lieu of the partial improved init.

I'd be open to a Warder, especially from MrStr4ng3, as we've played together in many a game. Perhaps we can work something out. Probably, we would be incognito, with a mission of our own, only tangentially linked to the Hunt for the Horn.

I'm thinking that I'd likely be newly enough raised that she'd not have the distinctive face. Also, given the slowing, she probably looks younger than her true age (teenaged), and folk would be unlikely to believe it anyway.

In our old games, Rizzen had done away with the Warder Prestige Class, and replaced it with a template, if I recall correctly.

Yup. Its a template

Completed characters:
Malinor: Ceirn, aiel Alga'd'siswai

Rolled with concepts:
mrstr4ng3: maybe warder to rigorrictus, woodsman (wolfbrother?)
mr.clint: possible wolfbrother
rigorrictus: maybe aes sedai
dorian grey: ebou dari wilder
robert henry: maybe smart nobleman?
wormysqueue: armsman/blademaster?
nikolaus de'shade: anathema to the One power

Rolled:
elbowtotheface
hayato ken
nazzard
trawets71

I think that's everyone.

Would the Alga'd'siswai also get Quick Draw in lieu of the partial Initiative bonus?

Background...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Would a Male Aiel capable of channeling willingly choose to forgo his oath to spit into Sightblinders eye and stick with finding He Who Comes With The Dawn? This one is a thinker...

Malinor. wrote:

Background...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Would a Male Aiel capable of channeling willingly choose to forgo his oath to spit into Sightblinders eye and stick with finding He Who Comes With The Dawn? This one is a thinker...

I actually had the same idea as a character concept; a male Aiel channeler, who instead of going into the Blight like all the others chosen to do so, went across the drago wall. In my concept, the reason why was simple; a wise one Dreamer had a dream that if I did not go, the quest to find the car'a'carn would fail.

My idea was that he did not start channeling until he went into the Wetlands with no Wise Ones near for guidance. So his only current oath was the hunt for He Who Comes with the Dawn. And its not that he doesn't plan to go north, he just has business to finish first.

I think it is brilliant!

I think it is brilliant!

Presuming you mean my idea, the best part is, it could be very simple and indirect.

One night, He decided to get drunk with a couple of stone dogs named Gaul and Sarien. Because they are hung over, Gaul and his friend sleep in and are unable to go with the rest of the Stone Dogs, instead setting out on their own. As a result, Sarien is killed and Gaul is captured by Hunters for the horn.

If he hadn't been there, the two would have stayed with the Stone Dogs, and not been alone when they encountered the hunters. As a result, when Perrin gets to Remen, there is no Aiel in a cage, Perrin doesn't free him, doesn't kill more whitecloaks, and therefore the group doesn't have to flee in the night. Moraine decides to track Rand overland instead of taking the ship to Illian, and being delayed, she is not in Tear in time to save Rand from Be'lal. Rand is killed, and Be'lal claims Callandor.

Thus, he saves the world, via the butterfly effect.

Of course, it could have a more dramatic destiny too, but I think saving the world by choosing to getting so drunk he passed out would be a pretty awesome claim to fame.

@RIZZ If you don't think it makes sense, please let me know. I had an alternate idea I can switch over to instead that might fit what you had in mind more.

No, I think your idea makes perfect sense. I was just having fun with a runaway thought. Your approach is simpler, and could lead into its own angles.

For instance, maybe discovering he could channel shook his world so much he didn't know what to do, and wandered aimlessly, which was how he found himself in the Square of Tammaz, taking some wetlander oath?

Dorian 'Grey' wrote:

I think it is brilliant!

Presuming you mean my idea, the best part is, it could be very simple and indirect.

One night, He decided to get drunk with a couple of stone dogs named Gaul and Sarien. Because they are hung over, Gaul and his friend sleep in and are unable to go with the rest of the Stone Dogs, instead setting out on their own. As a result, Sarien is killed and Gaul is captured by Hunters for the horn.

If he hadn't been there, the two would have stayed with the Stone Dogs, and not been alone when they encountered the hunters. As a result, when Perrin gets to Remen, there is no Aiel in a cage, Perrin doesn't free him, doesn't kill more whitecloaks, and therefore the group doesn't have to flee in the night. Moraine decides to track Rand overland instead of taking the ship to Illian, and being delayed, she is not in Tear in time to save Rand from Be'lal. Rand is killed, and Be'lal claims Callandor.

Thus, he saves the world, via the butterfly effect.

Of course, it could have a more dramatic destiny too, but I think saving the world by choosing to getting so drunk he passed out would be a pretty awesome claim to fame.

normally, this is where i tell one of my friends ]b] dude, you need a hobby[/b] but since this is WOT and is our hobby...

@RIZZ If you don't think it makes sense, please let me know. I had an alternate idea I can switch over to instead that might fit what you had in mind more.

i'll sleep on this and tell you tomorrow.

That's why I was waiting to see if we were 'Hunters of the Horn' It's difficult to imagine any Aiel, Ogier or Aes Sedai (since they know where the horn is) going on the hunt.

I thought the idea of an Aes Sedai joining with ulterior motives was good. And an Aiel sent because of a prophesy isn't bad either. I guess if Loial can leave the Stedding to avoid marriage then trawets71 Ogier may have a good reason to look for the horn.

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to put up a nobleman or not. No matter how well their built or developed, I usually get really bored with 'support' characters and tend to try and get them killed shortly after the game starts. So I've learned to avoid lying to myself with the 'It will be different with this one' and just step away from the recruitment.

I've scratched three different 'ideas' already. I'll give it one more shot.

Edit:Is anyone else handling disable devise yet? If I put the 17 in dex, being from Ebou Dari he could take open locks (disable device) as a skill and duelist as a feat. That would help with diplomacy.

Hey Rizz, the second half of 'duelist' is + 2 to init, what could we exchange that for?

This is Dorian Grey's work in progress....

I am almost certain that I have done this correctly?

@RH if you want Ebou Dari then I can switch him up to help? I would prefer Acrobatics...lol.

EDIT: I am picturing him as a doctor and former drunk on the wagon to stop manifesting his powers...lol.

Hey Rizz, the second half of 'duelist' is + 2 to init, what could we exchange that for?

The going rate appears to be Quick Draw instead of the init bump.

@Adroushan For what it's worth, you do not have the Block. According to the section on men you automatically get the feat that removes Blocks. Its part of the balance of men going mad.

My idea was that he did not start channeling until he went into the Wetlands with no Wise Ones near for guidance. So his only current oath was the hunt for He Who Comes with the Dawn. And its not that he doesn't plan to go north, he just has business to finish first.

So ive thought about it.

makes sense. also provides for a future interaction that would be rather interesting to see how it gets resolved.

Robert Henry wrote:

Hey Rizz, the second half of 'duelist' is + 2 to init, what could we exchange that for?

The going rate appears to be Quick Draw instead of the init bump.

yup.

alright robert. ill make a deal with you, if youre willing to toss the dice.

you can either take a reroll of all your stats, and roll yourself. Or I roll to replace your 3 lowest scores.

Almost done. Need to finish gear and known weaves and write out my background, but I have that mostly thought out in my head.

Here is my Warder, I was not able to find the warder template. and I am not sure how I should do the Level 3 and 4 Forms. If we are under cover the fancloth cloak is packed away can I start with one? Should I pay for it?

Ok, after some pondering, I feel like I have to bow out of this game. I just don't get a feel for a character I would wanna play that would do this world justice. Maybe it's just been too long that I read the books. So have fun gaming, I'm probably gonna enjoy and read the story as it unfolds.

@Adroushan For what it's worth, you do not have the Block. According to the section on men you automatically get the feat that removes Blocks. Its part of the balance of men going mad.

The side bar about male channelers reads can take the Eliminate Block Feat; not automatically receives it? It only allows to be taken at 1st instead of 3rd, as females.

I did forget to give him the 5 free weaves 1-5, although, not 5th yet....yet....

EDIT: @ GM I am understanding the Weave Casting System to basically be spontaneous caster able to Heighten weaves as Signature spells?

I believe that Adroushan knows almost every available Weave and may cast them all at 0-2 (weave dependent) because of Cross-Talent Weaves ability, but Healing up to 4th because of having Heal Talent?

Your right. I read that as Gain, not Can Gain. Ah well.

alright robert. ill make a deal with you, if youre willing to toss the dice.

you can either take a reroll of all your stats, and roll yourself. Or I roll to replace your 3 lowest scores.

A curious proposition, let me see if I need it. If Adroushan is handling Disable device, I may just go with a sickly nobleman from Ebou Dari (actually north of the city) who wants to earn a name for himself before he dies young. I'll take the 7 in wisdom and 9's in str and con. Put the 17 in dex, the 14 in cha and the 12 in int. Build him with an attitude a little like 'Doc Holiday' in Tombstone. I figure as a noble he might have enough money and influence to finance the groups 'Hunt.'

Are you ok with his grandmothers 'sergeant at arms' teaching him a few sword forms?

@ RH Adroushan could be your family doctor....lol! Just kidding, but, I like your pitch.

@ RH Adroushan could be your family doctor....lol! Just kidding, but, I like your pitch.

I would be totally good with that, it would give us an excuse to be traveling together. Might be possible that he learned of Adroushan's ability to channel and blackmailed him into coming along... Does Adroushan have any bad habits? I know Kunala certainly will....

Bad habits? Only a bit of a problem with the drink...lol.

Well Malden makes a cheap wine, I'm thinking that's where Kunala will be from... adds a twist later.

Right - definitely doing something so quick roll about ter'angreal.

Lucky?: 1d100 ⇒ 93
Close but no cigar. That might be a good thing in the end.

Ok, this is RH's Edou Dari Nobleman Kunala. I've got the crunch done, still working on the fluff, and will have it done by the deadline on the 6th. I've sent Rizz a PM asking about a few things, depending on how that comes back I may tweak him a little.

ter'angreal: 1d100 ⇒ 15

What I have on the backstory so far. His Grandmother is Lady Cairen of Malden. Kunala was born to her second child, his father. Kunala's father spends most of his time in Ebou Dar on 'business' and to avoid his wife, a rich wine merchant from Malden. Kunala, needing quality physicians, spent a lot of time in Ebou Dar growing up. His father, an accomplished duelist taught the sickly Kunala to use the rapier. Kunala left Ebou Dar to become a 'Hunter of the Horn' with the intent to finance a team and earn his way into the saga's told by Gleemen.

Adroushan, if you are willing to team up with Kunala leaving Ebou Dar, he does have extra money for 'medicine' Would 200 mk. help with the purchase of medical supplies?

Rizz, I used the 'Sword skill' guidelines from our previous game "You automatically learn form levels 1 and 2. Pick 4 at form level 3, 3 at level 4, and two at level 5." Sadly without a higher Wis or Str, he can't get a lot of them, but it will still be fun enough to invest the skill levels.

Here is my Warder, I was not able to find the warder template. and I am not sure how I should do the Level 3 and 4 Forms. If we are under cover the fancloth cloak is packed away can I start with one? Should I pay for it?

For figuring out your sword forms beyond level 2:
you need to have the skill ranks for each level, so level 3 requires Min 4 ranks, level 4 requires 5 ranks, etc.
You need to meet the feat requirement for the sword form.
Roll a d4 for each level above 2nd. thats how many forms you learn (provided you meet the feat req as well)

cool, lvl 3: 1d4 ⇒ 1lvl 4: 1d4 ⇒ 2 If we like a lower sword form better can we take it instead?

i'll spend more time tonight on reading through posts and answering questions and what not.

cool, [dice=lvl 3]1d4[dice=lvl 4]1d4 If we like a lower sword form better can we take it instead?

Sure

Sword Forms 3;4: 1d4 ⇒ 31d4 ⇒ 3

Janus, I was browsing your character, how did you pick up Weapon Finesse: Warders Sword? It's basically a bastard sword so not usable with 'finesse' unless you have something like the Dai’dore class Feature Improved Weapon Finesse:

Improved Weapon Finesse: At 3 rd level, the Dai’dore can select one weapon that he is proficient with and apply the Weapon Finesse feat to this weapon. He can do this even if the weapon does not normally allow for weapon finesse. The weapon must be of the same size category or smaller than the character. The only exception to this is the quarterstaff which can have this ability applied to it by medium sized characters.

Edit: Adroushan, I think you only get one selection from 'Equipment' Background. And sadly their is no generic 'kit' available, but I would recommend starting with:

Belt Pouch: 1 mk. 1 lbs.
Backpack 2 mk. 2 lbs.
in Backpack
Bedroll: 1 sp. 5 lbs.
Winter Banket 5 sp. 3 lbs.
Trail rations (10 days) 5 mk. 10 lbs.
Waterskin: 1 mk. 4 lbs.
Hemp rope (50 ft.) 1 mk. 10 lbs.
torch @ 10: 1 sp. 10 lbs.
Flint and Steel: 1 mk. n/a
Subtotal: 11.7 mk. 45 lbs.

@Robert Henry.

The WoT Core book Specifically allows for Warder Sword for Warder's Sword.

"...Alternatively, you can choose a rapier or Warder's sword, provided you can use it in one hand."

I was in the middle of making Janus a Woodsman2\Dai'dore3 when I read the WoT feat.

Thanks for the Pack, I need to shop.

Making a character has reminded me how many things they screwed up in making the game. The one here being that there is no such thing as Warder sword in the books. In a few places there is mention of the long hilted swords preferred by warders, but whitecloak blademasters use the same style of blade, as did Artur Hawkwing, and even though his is described as a bit thicker and heavier, even Lord Turok of the Seanchan used the same style of sword.

I wish someone had done an RPG build of Wheel of Time that didn't suck so much. We use it because it's all we have, but man is it terrible...

I'm noticing the same thing in choosing weaves; why is elementalism a Talent? Is there ever a character depicted anywhere that can do Elemental effects? Even the most amateur beginners can all do elemental stuff. Same with wards; you have to learn the specific ward, but no one is ever described as being unable to learn them. The only ones I ever remember being specific Talents are Healing and Traveling, and in the case of Traveling, it is later shown to only be a matter of raw power, but that anyone of sufficient strength can make one.

Janus Dagolin wrote:

Here is my Warder, I was not able to find the warder template. and I am not sure how I should do the Level 3 and 4 Forms. If we are under cover the fancloth cloak is packed away can I start with one? Should I pay for it?

Bonded Warder Template: (Source, Post #649 Jonasty’s campaign)

+2 enhancement bonus to Strength
+1 hp per level (Stacks with toughness)
+5’ bonus to base speed
+2 to all saving throws against weaves and abilities of shadowspawn and darkfriend (darkfriend is defined as someone who has sworn oaths to the Dark One)
If the warder’s charge dies, in addition to 1d4 per level damage, the warder must make a Will save DC equal to the Channeler’s level +5 or become consumed with finding their own death. Care in another channeler’s hands for a full month can give a second save.)

Do we still get to share Fort and Will saves as per the original version? There is also strong mention in the books that they have some sort of bonus to endure fatigue and exhaustion.

@Robert Henry.

The WoT Core book Specifically allows for Warder Sword for Warder's Sword.

Wheel of Time RPG wrote:

"...Alternatively, you can choose a rapier or Warder's sword, provided you can use it in one hand."

Dude, so sorry, I did not see that! Thanks for the heads up, I'll put that in my pocket for the next time I roll a character that can survive melee :)

RIZZENMAGNUS wrote:

Janus Dagolin wrote:

Here is my Warder, I was not able to find the warder template. and I am not sure how I should do the Level 3 and 4 Forms. If we are under cover the fancloth cloak is packed away can I start with one? Should I pay for it?

Bonded Warder Template: (Source, Post #649 Jonasty’s campaign)

+2 enhancement bonus to Strength
+1 hp per level (Stacks with toughness)
+5’ bonus to base speed
+2 to all saving throws against weaves and abilities of shadowspawn and darkfriend (darkfriend is defined as someone who has sworn oaths to the Dark One)
If the warder’s charge dies, in addition to 1d4 per level damage, the warder must make a Will save DC equal to the Channeler’s level +5 or become consumed with finding their own death. Care in another channeler’s hands for a full month can give a second save.)

Do we still get to share Fort and Will saves as per the original version? There is also strong mention in the books that they have some sort of bonus to endure fatigue and exhaustion.

Yes you can share saves.

Hmmmm....i wonder if building in the endurance feat into the template would be a good idea.
I think we can try to test that out.

Apologies to everyone for not really posting much yesterday or today. Spent yesterday trying to continue to remodel the bathroom, and managed to waste $75 of trim. And today was a date with the with to The hardware stores finding different trim to use.

Hello all. :)

So, hunters for the horn and it looks like we have an Aiel warrior/wilder, an Aes Sedai and possibly her warder/wolfbrother, another wilder and possibly a nobleman and a blademaster with a few more unknowns.

Time is limited between now and deadline, so I may need to see if I can repurpose one of my former characters.

4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 2, 6) = 13 11
4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 5, 6) = 19 15
4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 1, 6) = 12 11
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 5, 6) = 21 16
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 5, 2) = 15 13
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 3, 4) = 13 11

Hmm I dunno. With those stats maybe an archer, channeler, or noble of some sort. Will have to think about it.

Good to see you again, Fiallain!

Or should I say, "I see you, Fiallain."

"My water is yours, Rhoekk."

Good to see you as well!

WHOA! Fia!! holy cow! A name that hasnt passed this screen in a few years! How have you been?!!

Completed characters:
Malinor: Ceirn, aiel Alga'd'siswai
mrstr4ng3: Janus doglin, woodsman Warder to Niketsu
rigorrictus: Niketsu Sedai, Wilder...
robert henry: Kunala, Noble/di'adore
dorian grey: Adroshan, male wilder.

Rolled with concepts:
nikolaus de'shade: anathema to the One power

Rolled:
elbowtotheface
hayato ken
nazzard
trawets71
Fiallian

dropped out:
Wormysqueue

i am pretty sure that that is everyone.