GM Rednal's Legendary Planet AP (Inactive)

Game Master Rednal

Isen, Vincent? I think that one is up to you two...either of you should provide that bluff, it seems. Maybe make it count while at it, with something like "the animals should go free since they transport goods for your boss"...then having 2 of us fly over rather than pay for bridge usage-

Sorry for messing up there. If we end up paying extra to avoid hostilities, we will deduct it from my share.

Also, Vincent, maybe you want to follow this Alias to it's campaign and provide a submission for there?

Isen, want to give this one a go? Vincent's not really trying to deceive them, more make friends and convince them to let us pass for less/nothing.

Looking to replace a divine caster/skill character? Let me see if I can come up with a fun character idea to fit the bill. Is it healing specifically, or just divine magic in general? Any specific skills? Traps?

Did you guys all go variant multiclass because of the bonus feats at even levels? Is there anything important to know other than what's in the first recruitment post?

I'm also not trying to deceive them.
I simply messed up as player -_-

@VMC: I did, yes.
@Healing, we got Paladin and Warpriest, we shouldn't depend on it...but more healing never hurts. Just saying it's a plus but definitely not a hard requisite.

Yeah, that's why I decided to softball it and let it be a potential Aid Another. ^^ Accidental bluffs are still bluffs, after all.

I've got an outline of an idea for a tengu shingenjo oracle/scout unchained rogue, but I got home from work really late tonight, so it will have to wait until tomorrow to get more fleshed out.

"Och, a wyrd bridie-folk shall be joining me saga, shall it? Well, so long as ye can help, ye shall feast on the finest of breakfasts."

@Rednal: I know. I just felt I needed to point it out again when Vincent refused to make the check on basis of not wanting to deceive them. Then again, he's a Paladin, so...

I wasn't going to leave you twisting in the wind, just wanted to give Isen a chance to jump in there since lying/smoothing things over seems more in his skill set.

"Och, a wyrd bridie-folk shall be joining me saga, shall it? Well, so long as ye can help, ye shall feast on the finest of breakfasts."

Looks like you guys are level 4? Should I start with half WBL for 4 then? Anything else special outside the main recruitment post? Any changes since the game started?

Yeah, we're level four. Not sure about wealth by level - we've not gotten a huge amount of shinies, but I have no idea how close to level they are, so Rednal will need to answer that. Everything is the same as the recruitment post (unless it doesn't mention you can use Spheres, because you can).

I feel like you're probably around half your WBL right now, give or take... best to use that as a basis. Fear not, more shinies will happen. XD I mean, y'know. Eventually. Some areas are DEFINITELY more treasure-rich than others.

So half, or quarter (half for ABP, half for progress)?

Also looking to be another late night... I'm still at work right now.

Normal half. ^^

...and I'm working the weekend instead of playing Starfinder... yaaaay.

Man, you need a better job. My manager encourages me to roleplay here. I'm doing it right now!

It's "not normally" like this, but it's been like this a lot lately.

That does tend to be the sign of a new normal... well, the advice I can offer is limited, but you're still welcome here to relax. ^^

How does blood crow strike work for an oracle? Is it a 1 round cast that releases a full attack worth of unarmed strikes at the end? Something else? The attacks are melee attacks, despite being at range, do they do sneak attack damage within 30 ft? Within the spells range?

Hoping to finally sit down and put together my tengu tonight, and just brainstorming ideas for down the road.

A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed.

So, cast it on yourself one turn, get the benefit on the next.

Sorry I wasn't very specific. For this particular spell:

Your unarmed strikes release blasts of energy in the form of bolts of fire or glowing red crows, which fly instantaneously to strike your target. You can make unarmed strike or flurry of blows attacks against the target as if it were in your threatened area; each successful attack deals damage as if you had hit it with your unarmed strike, except half the damage is fire and half is negative energy (this negative energy does not heal undead). For example, if you are a 14th-level monk, you can use a flurry of blows to attack five times, creating one energy crow for each successful attack against the target, and dealing 2d6 points of damage (plus appropriate unarmed strike modifiers) with each crow.

The spell has a 1 round cast time, but a duration of instantaneous, so my question is it cast the spell and the effect is 1 full-attack's worth of attacks made with boiling blood crows?

The explanation about Flurry of Blows is the clearest answer there - you can get one round of unarmed strike or flurry of blows attacks, basically, however many that might be for you.

Cool. That was my interpretation as well, but it's worded a bit strangely.

Blood Crow Strike is just too perfect a thematic spell to pass up for an unarmed focused tengu oracle blighted with a wasting disease.

After a whirlwind of late night work, I finally had time to sit down and read through the player's guide. I haven't read through the 1000+ posts in the gameplay thread, so I'm not up to speed on the current game, but I figured we could work that in after I know what I'm working with. I'm open to other ideas or suggestions and whatnot, but for now, meet Tchakar:

Looks reasonable enough, though I feel like your AC is probably a bit low... might come back to bite you, that. XD

Yeah. His "adventuring AC" is 19 right now, with his armor revelation, with some back up potions of mage armor in case he runs out of armor time. It is a little rough though, since he's very monk like, but without the monk's AC bonus and easy access to barkskin.

I don't suppose anyone knows of a good way to get to add CHA to AC, like a monk adds his WIS?

Hm. Dunno what you are going for here, since you have two-weapon fighting, but unarmed stuff and a quarterstaff.
Just wanted to mention unhindering Shield Feat.
+1 AC for the buckler, +1 for Shield Focus Prereq, and whatever enchantment you slam on it. Works for Monks, and lets you dual-wield(while still giving you the AC Bonus).
If you can fit it in there, that's some extra AC.

The staff is just there as a walking stick and I can't afford a magic staff at this level. My attacks will be unarmed, punches and kicks when two weapon fighting, but often I'll probably be using 1 attack with a charge or 10 ft of movement at level 8+.

The shield idea is good, but doesn't really work with the theme I was going for. Maybe I'll pick up crane style to go with the whole bird theme.

Actually, having just reread the ascetic mystery, it looks like there's nothing about not using a shield, just no armor or medium or heavy load, so maybe I'll just pick up a dark wood light shield and hold my staff in that hand and punch with my possessed hand and kick.

Even if there was, since the ascetic theme is pretty much based on monk, it would probably still work due to the (Special: A monk with this feat is not considered to be using a shield for the purposes of his AC bonus, fast movement, or flurry of blows.) section.

Plus, Rednal is very accepting in reflavors, as long as mechanically everything is sound.
Maybe you can use your 'walking stick' to deflect blows, that is, have the buckler be a mechanic item for your off-hand that is, flavorwise, overrided by the Staff used in the "Cosmetic" slot of said off-hand.

That'd be cool. Let's see what Rednal thinks of a shield-staff. If everything checks out and everyone's happy with Tchakar, I'll post over in the other discussion.

As for this game... I'm a little confused about how everything is laid out. Did we just get hustled?

We're trying to cross some water, and paid a toll to get across, but then they suggested we try a different crossing? Or is it another crossing after this one, on our way?

Basically, the place you arrived at is an island of sorts. You need this bridge to get over to the mainland, and following the river inland, there's another bridge that takes you across said river properly, and that's where your goal is.

Ok, cool, wasn't quite following, that clears it up.

How much is everyone paying so I can mark off the correct amount? I'm ok with paying for everyone.

I'll pay a third.

Is everyone happy with Tchakar? And Rednal, would a staff that acts (and costs) like a light wooden shield that is later combined with a magic staff be acceptable?

I'm imagining Tchakar looks something like this but with patchier feathers and carrying a staff that he uses to walk with and deflect attacks.

Not to be a spoilsport, but unhindering shield demands bucklering. So if you meant to go with that to keep the hand 'available' then light shield is not mechanically viable. If you simply want your light wooden shield to have the form of a staff but work like a shield for all intents and purposes? Probably something else. If you mean to carry a Magic staff in that hand, however, that would be double-booking the slot unless you go with unhindering shield, which brings us full circle.
Not my call to make, of course, but I feel you have the best chance to get things accepted if you clearly explain the mechanical workings, then the reflavoring done.('I am using a buckler with unhindering shield Feat allowing me to wield a staff in that hand without losing the AC. Mechanically the shield provides the armor bonus, but I would like to reflavor that into deflecting attacks with the staff I wield(and the buckler only existing mechanically, not on my hand), and I will later upgrade that staff into a magic staff(and separately upgrade the buckler to increase the AC or add special qualities to it. The items are mechanically separate and capable of functioning simultaneously, but flavorwise, I would like them fused into one staff I use for defensive purposes.)')

Eh, having thought on it a bit more, I think I'll table the staff idea for now and focus that on a different character in the future. Magic staves are a cool trope that are unfortunately hard to make work in Pathfinder.

For Tchakar how does this sound? After getting hit in the head a few too many times, Tchakar went shopping for some extra protection and the merchant convinced him to purchase a finely crafted darkwood kite shield, and Tchakar didn't realize that it wasn't an actual kite until after he had purchased it. Too proud to admit his mistake, he kept the heavy wooden shield and has managed to incorporate it into his martial training with some substantial effort. I still have a hand free for casting and fighting can combo up the white-feather fist with a barrage of kicks. Sound ok?

Have you read the third party supplement, the Spellstaff? It's an interesting little idea. I can share if you think it'll be useful.

I have a character who does make the magic staff work, but they're kind of a wonky tristalt with a heavy dose of story and mythic crafting on top of it. XD Neat staff, though.

What exact rules are you trying to use there, Vincent?

It kind of reads as if he's using a heavy shield + no weapon...using his main hand as free hand for casting and mixing up combat with kicking like a good monk would?
Or did I misread that?
I don't think the archetype forbids a heavy shield, the only question then is proficiency. Since Oracle grants it and ascetic does not seem to change it? Seems no worries there. Unless things change.

Never heard of the Spellstaff. Perhaps it could be useful for a future game, I'll have to look at it some time. Is it an item/class/feat?

Yeah, that's pretty much it, Phai. I was thinking about a staff-as-a-shield, but there will be better opportunities for a staff wielder in another game I think. Maybe I'll finally figure out a way to make Gandalf's style work some day.

For now I'm thinking just using a heavy wooden shield (cause kite shields look cool, and I like the idea that Tchakar mixed up the meaning of "kite") and focus on unarmed combat. The shield is just there for blocking attacks. It's got ravens carved into the face of it though, so at least it looks kind of cool and fits the bird/wind theme.

Most of the time I'll be attacking with the possessed hand, and on the occasional full attack I'll use possessed hand + kicks for two-weapon unarmed combat. I get monk unarmed damage, but no flurry, so I have to drop feats. Depending on how hard of a time I have hitting I may use two-weapon fighting more or less, but I expect it will be a bit easier once I get Invisible Blade at 10.

The Spellstaff is an item, but the PDF has feat and archetype support.

I think the Staff Magus gets a shield bonus at Level 10-ish... but yeah, some ideas need gestalt, or at least a decent bit of homebrewing.

Yeah, the staff magus seems cool, but I haven't found any good way to use both a longsword and staff together. Two weapon fighting in general can be pretty tough to make work, especially if you also want to be a caster.

Anyways, should I post in the other thread with Tchakar? Any further questions/problems/changes?

Go ahead and post with him now. ^^

Releases update:

I now have Part 6 (of 7) of this Adventure Path. You are in Part 2, not counting the prologue.

OK...what have we got that we can use? We have that vicious longspear, but I think that we should avoid risking that unless we have to. Isen can donate his sword, in a pinch. What else have we got that we can use? Any spare weapons, metals and poles?

I suppose there's always taking Vincent's arm of- I-I mean, that's a good question, Isen.

We have the Syandi spears, do we not?
If not, we do have my Glaive(if I stick to the vicious longspear).
Even if the Anvil is gone, I think Vincent had some raw materials left to work on his shield?
And there's always coinage...I think Isen has a lot in small denominations as material components? (obviously not using the full set, just pointing out if we need some metal we should have it...)

Not much else to think about. We DO also have an extra camel. We could...um...cook dinner, by strapping the lightning rod spear/glaive on it's back while the others of us lay down flat.

Or we remain standing and try to dodge when the air gets all prickly/crawley on your skin indicating a bolt will hit.
Hey, it worked in FF-X on the Thunder Plains...

200 lightning bolts later and we get a creepy little doll!

And I'd rather keep all three of my arms if at all possible. Both of the ones attached to my chest, and the third which is part of the shield construction.

I've got a warhammer and potentially my sword as well if needed.

I do look good in a dress made of belts...

Assuming we do have the Syundi spears, they'll do. If not we can use the Glaive and Isen's Sword first, then the other stuff as needed. Isen's silver coins can be used to form chains to the water, in a pinch - it doesn't matter what state they're in, so long as it's a silver piece's worth of silver left.

Sound good?