... How do we walk into a 10x10 room occupied by a 10x10 creature? "Oh excuse me, sir. I didn't notice that I my face was shoved into your navel."
I gotta say, this whole scene of "purple alchemical liquid" and this Beast character kind of reminds me of Bane or Solomon Grundy from Batman.
Sorry, no time to update tonight.
I go on update last night, but the board crashed on me halfway through, sorry about that.
I can have Gadren cast haste with Focused spell to keep it going for eleven rounds and then just give the Beast the +1 Deflection bonus... as it's a gollem we are fighting I'd say Gadren will be the least effective directly in the fight.
Whatever helps us win I'm for. :)
Okay, how do we control it? Do we take turns on a control panel? Is it like a microphone or something and you have to pass it to the nearest singer? I'm not really understanding how this thing actually works.
Either way, I think giving the controls to Gadren after the haste spell certainly sounds good. Giving it a +7 to AC is quite the strong bonus.
Okay. Yeah that works for me. And that is a great bonus. Yeah let's stick with that.
Don't forget your extra attack and bonus to hit from haste everyone.
I certainly didn't! Chop hack smash!
Do I actually get two AoO's due to her critting? I don't have combat reflexes but is that actually required to take advantage of the outflank feat in this regard? Because if it does, I'm going to have to look in to that feat. That might prove handy.
You know, I never thought about it. It's amazing what comes up in game that you'd never expect.
Yeah you would get two aoos but you're already using one on your own so my first crit can't proc an aoo for you without combat reflexes. Then it's a new turn and I proc an aoo for you which you can take now bc it's a new turn.
So please take that AOO Jack?
Sorry about last night, the board decided to crash on me again? Tuesday seems to be bad luck.
Yeah we're looking for one more aoo, Jack. You ended up getting two total. Both in flanking position.
TOTALLY my bad, folks. Sorry about that. I just flat out misunderstood about whether or not I actually got both AoO's. My bad.
Yeah it's confusing. If you had combat reflexes, you would have gotten three aoos since Maria rolled really lucky and got two crits.
So, I guess we better have the moral discussion here. What to do with Caromarc? Should we take him to court, or? If so, under which charges?
Lazar doesn't know much about law, so he's a bit confused on that matter. To him, the man doesn't seem to have been delving or experimenting with undead properly said, and his use of corpses seems more neutral than evil, so he's willing to let him go as he's shown good behaviour and collaboration, as long as he promises not to keep going that way.
Re: Rewards, I'm a bit confused. Are we supposed to get them all, since you're telling us? Just the ones we think it would be due? If so, since Lazar will work actively against the Whispering Way by his own will, he would get none of them, I guess.
Rewards would depend on your decisions.
Obviously having Caromarc put on trial means you don't get the gold. :)
Yeah this is tricky. Maria would certainly want to work against the Whispering Way and wouldn't pretend not to in order to get more rewards. Really the only way to get those rewards would be if Jack or someone did some negotations behind our back.
As for Caromarc, I don't know a lot about the legality of his actions but it seems he did break the law given that turning him into the judge is an option. Maria would be interested in seeing him prosecuted but I don't believe that one player gets to decide what the party does. Further, it's just her Lawful side that wants to see him prosecuted. Her good side doesn't care as his experiments seem more CN. So she won't fight the party too hard if they would prefer not to prosecute.
Well, let's see what everyone thinks. So far we've got 1 aye and 1 nay.
Yeah Jack has got no problem with Caromarc. AND he also wants to help with tracking/taking down the Whipering Way. Why? Because that's 10 grand, bay-bee! We help out Caromarc we get 4500. We help the other lady, we get 6000. We do both it's a win-win!
While Caromarc may be a bit weird, he does seem all in all a fairly decent fellow. So he created a person beast something or other, which I'll remind you, is a pretty cool beast. Huh? Huh?
I say we don't turn him in, we collect the 4500 and go after the cultists; we also help out the Judge and collect the 6000 and go after the cultists.
I mean, it seems pretty cut and dry to good ol' Jack. (Please see 'it's a win-win!' above) :)
Cedric would be extremely sympathetic to Caromac. After all, he could understand in a way. He would be against turning him to trial. After all, most of his creations caused no harm to anyone save unwelcome guests, and as long as he promised to permanently destroy the bondslave thrall Caromac would get a pass from him. Aside from that, his misfortune at the whispering way's hands seems punishment enough. Let him and the Beast live as best they can from now.
I'm also fine with collecting the 10 grand haha.
The problem is that collecting the 10 grand required that we reject pursuing the Whispering Way to begin with, something we're unlikely to do, unless you guys come up with an alternate way of getting them, and that's only because we've read beforehand that we have a chance to get them. That's why I've said DBH's post was a bit weird xD
Hey, but I love money too, you know :p
No update tonight. Guests over and insisting on me being social.
Gadren finds undead unseemly... given Molthune is willing to use summoned devils in war I imagine under (no doubt very strict) law there it might be legal. But he's not in Molthune and would seek to respect the law of the land... but things are complicated.
However he'd see the whispering way as the much greater evil. I'm thinking he could be swayed... but he'd want Caromarc to destroy the bondslave thrall. No doubt there'll be a stern warning too to step back from his experiments and we'll no doubt be checking up on him sometime... and to visit our friend 'The Beast'... who really needs a new name.
I'm thinking we can talk to the judge and say Caromarc was up to some things he shouldn't be but is helping us pursue the Whispering Path. I think she's sensible enough not to press us.
Basically I can see where the majority of the party are going but have a few twists.
Ok so I think the consensus is to NOT turn Caromac in. If we negotiate, then we can get 4500 gp each. Maria won't do the negotiating there and if we're being paid handsomely by him, she might return a couple of his things that we picked up along the way, like the painting of himself. XD
As I read it, the 6000 gp would be for the party, not each, and would require us to turn Caromac in to start that conversation with the judge? So poor us will probably just have to settle with 4500 gp each and tons of sellable loot from this place.
GM, can you clarify the immediately above point?
I propose the Beast to be renamed Eddie xD
Lol! Wait a minute! I think we should call him George. That way we can love him and pet him. :D (Durn you, Lazar, I actually like "Eddie") :P
Yeah it looks like it is 6000 to the lot of us. Still not a bad gig though. An extra 1000 each. As far as turning in Caromac "to start that conversation with the judge", I think we ought to roll with what Gadren said: "I'm thinking we can talk to the judge and say Caromarc was up to some things he shouldn't be but is helping us pursue the Whispering Path. I think she's sensible enough not to press us."
Sounds like a good idea to me. I mean, might as well give it a shot I'm thinking. *shrugs*
You each get 4500gp from Caromarc for being nice to him. You do get the 6000gp if you agree to go after the Whispering way.
That comes to 5700go each, plus what you make from selling what you found adventuring.
You can spend the gold in Lepidstadt.
wow! alrighty, gp added to my column of the loot sheet. I'll add up what we get from selling stuff a little later. In the mean time, take a look at the unclaimed column of the loot sheet and see if there's anything you want instead of having me sell it.
Added the 5700 as well., There was a mismatch between what was listed on the loot sheet and what was on my alias, probably because I hadn't taken the cost of making as magic bow from the loot sheet.
Also, I found out I had a Rope of Climbing, which might have been useful when climbing to the top of the tower LOL
Do you guys want to keep it? It sells for 1500 right away, if we think we don't need it :)
Gadren, how's your workshop right now? :P
Nice. I'm trying to remember if I'm in the middle of crafting something for someone or primed to start a new project. I think he's fresh to go that night.
Maria really wants to upgrade her mwk falchion to +1 keen but that's not in the cards yet unless she buys it outright. Do you plan to take craft magic arms and armor eventually? If not, no worries. She'll just buy it outright. Just thinking ahead.
Who doesn't have a cloak of resistance yet? I think I've got good resistances so I have no problem being left for last.
I got a cloak. I'm good.
There are some pretty good potions in the unclaimed loot. We should consider keeping the CLW ones if nothing else.
There's displacement, darkvision, resist fire... that's all that really stands out to me honestly. You could make a case for a few others though.
@Lazar: You should keep the rope of climbing. If you don't want it Jack will take it. I think that will come in handy. I love handy stuff. :)
can afford my phylactery of positive channeling now if Gadren wouldn't mind :3
Let me know when you've finished shopping and I'll kick off the next book.
@GM DBH Any downtime between books? Even just a few days gathering gear, travelling and selling books.
@Maria I don't plan on taking it currently. However if you want to go for an upgraded baseline material Gadren can loan her some money. Adamantine, Living Steel or even Druchite if it could be found.
@Cedric I can start on that. I believe I said I'd do that one at 2750gp since more healing for us and true death for the undead is a huge benefit for us all.
DC20 but I'll go for 25 for increased speed. +22. Arcane builder also helps.
So two crafting sessions.
Cedric's phylactery should of course go first, every time he uses Channeling we all profit.
Now, I'll look for something for me to buy. I guess Gadren would also like to craft for himself :P
Jack will invest in a Handy Haversack. Is that doable? Can we just buy whatever we want as long as we have the cash? If so, where are we buying these things? Simply in town I guess?
Maria will spend 7700 gp to get her falchion upgraded to +1 keen.
She would also like an amulet of natural armor +1 for the time being. What would be your price on that, Gadren? 1200 gp if I understand your discount system correctly?
You have several weeks while things are settled regarding the Beasts case.
You are in Lepidstadt, which is a small city. Buying things up to 4000gp value is automatic.
Oh. Well cool. I'll give it a bit of thought then.
@GM DBH Thanks, I'll probably run out of money first then!
@Lazar With several weeks I'll prioritise working on the rest of the parties gear before his own. Regarding obvious things for Lazar a belt of Dex +2 would be 2,400gp for him to do and would take two days. Similar with a headband of wisdom +2
@Jack Gadren could craft one of them fairly easily.
@Maria Gadren can finish the amulet of natural armour +1 in a day for 1,200gp
Gadren: Thanks I'll commission one then.
GM: What about upgrading my sword to +1 keen? That's about 8000 gp. Is there someone in Lepistadt who can do that for me?
@Gadren: Really?! Hey if it's cool with you then that'll work for me. Just let me know the cost and I'll deduct it accordingly. Thanks!
@Maria. Yes you can get your sword upgraded.
Ah, that would be awesome, Gadren! Thank you, man.
Now I only need a computer so I can edit the character xD
@Jack 1,200gp for a handy haversack.
@Maria Amulet of Natural Armour +1. 1200gp
@Lazar do you want both a headband of Wisdom +2 and a Belt of Dex +2? Just making sure.
@All (but especially Maria and Lazar) How would people feel about Gadren picking up Command Undead... turn the mindless undead of the whispering way back on them? Happy to RP this.
Lazar belongs to the church of Pharasma. I think he won't take it with much happiness, but I should check on the goddess just in case.
Edit: As for me as a player, I guess it's fine. I suppose both character could reach an agreement to just control the existent ones, and that after a nice RP. Let's see also what our GM thinks about it.