From Hell: A Trip Through the Demimonde

Game Master GM Grimm

Mysterious murders and polite society provide a wonderful façade for things much more sinister. Evil will survive you. Will you survive it?

Map of London
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Campaign exchange rate: 1 Pound= 10gp in Pathfinder
The Leather Apron

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This is the discussion thread for From Hell. Please do not post until invited to do so.


Armor will be some variation of what is listed in Pathfinder, for example: Armored coat can replace lamellar. Of course a breastplate or chain shirt is permissible, but would be out of place out in the open.

Commonplace guns means that firearms are attainable, but not cheap.

My vision for magic is that it is subtle most of the time. Divine casting being from the source of faith. Other casting from learning ancient tomes, connection with darkness, or something within.

I'm certain that you all will come up with creative ways to sell it. Magic and magical items will be rare, but powerful. Discretion is of great concern when using it.

Any other questions, ask and discuss here. We shall begin shortly.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

Hello. Thanks for having me!

While I'd be more than willing to know other characters, Reagan's only been out of prison for a little while, so she likely hasn't had that much contact with others.

Other than that, not much to say at this moment. I'm happy to answer any questions, but I'm pretty beat tonight.

EDIT: Oh, just thought of this. I'm more than prepared, as a player, to deal with the sexism and anti-Irish sentiment that was present during this time period. I won't get offended for something your character says to mine.


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

Good evening.

A few questions, if I may.

I was keen to have a subtle familiar. I was thinking a Beagle as a familiar if possible. This would be a reskinning of Fox. Alternatively I could take a viper, and simply take care to keep it hidden in my coat.

I have taken the liberty of preparing a list of starting equipment - please see the attached avatar.

I have not bought armour - I don't see George as particularly expecting trouble. He carries a knife because it is handy, and a walking stick because it's useful.

I believe he'd go hunting - but his ability with a rifle would be at best a talented amateur, rather than professional, and he certainly doesn't own his own weapon.

I have also bought him a small library, including an ancient grimoire of power.

The Exchange

Male Human Bard 1/Barbarian 1

Thanks for including me! I'm about to help a friend move furniture, but once I've returned home, I'll set up an alias and everything.

Grand Lodge

Thanks for including me as well. Looking forward to this.

Grand Lodge

Human Cloistered Cleric 3 | HP 24/24 | Saves F4, R4, W6 | AC 16, T 12, FF 14 | Init +2, Perc +8 | CMB +4, CMD 16

The alias Brother Thomas was already taken so I added OSB to the end. It stands for "Order of Saint Benedict".


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer

Greetings all - glad to have been chosen!

I also didn't purchase much by way of equipment. I listed leather armor, imagining a stiff leather cuirass and arm/leg guards worn under his uniform, though maybe padded armor would be more equivalent?


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

Hello all! Thanks for having me. I'm excited for this game: can't wait to get started. I've listed a chain shirt for Altair because he's the kind of guy who typically knows people who know people and when it becomes needful to wear armor he'll want to go for that set and just cover it with a heavy coat. He likes his innards to stay on the inside, where they belong.

Grand Lodge

Human Cloistered Cleric 3 | HP 24/24 | Saves F4, R4, W6 | AC 16, T 12, FF 14 | Init +2, Perc +8 | CMB +4, CMD 16

Could Brother Thomas have an armored coat crafted to look like Monk Robes?


Very good. Once you have completed aliases, please put your vital stats into your profile so that they are available for quick reference. I am looking for
AC | HP | Ref, Will, Fort etc. If you don't know how to do this. PM me and I will help. I find this very helpful as a DM. Don't forget to keep it updated.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

@ GM: Could we have a Gameplay thread to dot? It'd help with tracking this thread until we're ready to rock. I'm down with dot-and-delete, since it'll keep it clean.

@ Edgar: How long have you been policing in Whitechapel? Reagan's lived there most of her life, so it's possible she'd know you by reputation if not by friendship.


You will be starting the adventure at a grand ball at No. 9 Upper Belgrave Street in a white-stucco mansion.

You are attending either by outright invitation or as a guest of an attendee. Regardless of station, you have found either impeccable garb or something passable so that you will blend in.

When I link game play, describe how you are dressed and how you came to attend the ball.


Male Human (Nerd) 15 Shadowcaster Wizard

Would it be possible for Altair to have conned someone out of their invite, possibly by the design of the one doing the inviting anticipating his actions if this is the result of an attempt by an interested party to gather all is unique individuals?


Josh.Ingle wrote:
Would it be possible for Altair to have conned someone out of their invite, possibly by the design of the one doing the inviting anticipating his actions if this is the result of an attempt by an interested party to gather all is unique individuals?

Absolutely.


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

I can't find anything definitive on how we're doing hit points. Would you like us to roll or do we have a static value? I just threw in max HP as a placeholder.


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer

@ Reagan: Probably policing for around 15 years, so possible that she'd know him from reputation - that was part of the idea of the London "beat" policeman. Given her incarceration for bombing, I imagine he might recognize Reagan as well, though might not be able to place her.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

@Edgar: Sounds good by me. I'm sure Edgar would know Reagan's brother, Cahal, as I'm sure his arrest and imprisonment wouldn't have been the first time he'd been afoul of the law. I predict Reagan's relationship with Edgar is going to be a bit cold-war. No active hostility, but perhaps some mistrust. Work okay for you?


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer

@ Reagan: Sounds good - with his ranked social skill being Intimidate, I think Edgar's probably used to having people not like him.


Altair Nikos wrote:
I can't find anything definitive on how we're doing hit points. Would you like us to roll or do we have a static value? I just threw in max HP as a placeholder.

Full HP at lvl one, Half plus one thereafter, not including modifiers and feats.

So Altair's HP should be 8+5 + modifiers


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

Alrighty. Does anyone feel like having a connection or two to a fast-talking conman with a secret?

Grand Lodge

Human Cloistered Cleric 3 | HP 24/24 | Saves F4, R4, W6 | AC 16, T 12, FF 14 | Init +2, Perc +8 | CMB +4, CMD 16
Altair Nikos wrote:
Alrighty. Does anyone feel like having a connection or two to a fast-talking conman with a secret?

If Altair is willing to con a man of God, he could have pretended to be raising money for an Orphanage. Thomas has a sweet spot for orphans since he is one himself.


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer

Edgar may have heard of Altair, or at least some of his more infamous cons, through his own contacts (either police or criminal).

The Exchange

Male Human Bard 1/Barbarian 1

As much as I'd love to pursue this game, I don't know very much about the time period, I don't have a ton of time to research as much as I'd like to, and, to be honest, I feel it a bit unfair that I was chosen instead of a properly finished submission. I think it may be better for you to give my spot to someone who deserves it more.

Edit: Unrelated, all this talk of Edgar Stone is really screwing with me.


George Fitzroy wrote:

Good evening.

A few questions, if I may.

I was keen to have a subtle familiar. I was thinking a Beagle as a familiar if possible. This would be a reskinning of Fox. Alternatively I could take a viper, and simply take care to keep it hidden in my coat.

I have taken the liberty of preparing a list of starting equipment - please see the attached avatar.

I have not bought armour - I don't see George as particularly expecting trouble. He carries a knife because it is handy, and a walking stick because it's useful.

I believe he'd go hunting - but his ability with a rifle would be at best a talented amateur, rather than professional, and he certainly doesn't own his own weapon.

I have also bought him a small library, including an ancient grimoire of power.

Beagle would be fine.

Everything else seems good.


Edgar Lamoureux wrote:

As much as I'd love to pursue this game, I don't know very much about the time period, I don't have a ton of time to research as much as I'd like to, and, to be honest, I feel it a bit unfair that I was chosen instead of a properly finished submission. I think it may be better for you to give my spot to someone who deserves it more.

Edit: Unrelated, all this talk of Edgar Stone is really screwing with me.

Would everyone like to continue with 5 or recruit one more?


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

I'm OK either way on recruitment. 5 and 6 are both nice numbers. I'm sure a number of the folks from recruitment would like to play their characters.

@Bro Thomas: Altair is more than willing to have conned a priest in the past. The thing is, he just doesn't rightly care about religion beyond that it exists and it's useful for tricking people. I can see him spotting Thomas on a slow day and making him out to be an easy mark. It'd be downright hilarious for Thomas to spot Altair at the party first and recognize him. I feel like I'll enjoy putting my character on the spot and making him scramble to remember who he was supposed to be, though I doubt he would use his actual name for a con; "Mister Nikos" is too Greek sounding for Londoners to be truly at ease. Which would be even more amusing if someone else came along and called him something entirely different.

@Edgar Stone: Well, he tries to not fly too high-profile, given that attention as a con-man is dangerous, but I can definitely see Edgar having heard about him. One of his bigger cons (and the source of much of his starting 2000 GP at least in my head) was on a gang called the Ravens and the people involved are still after Altair, though they're calling him "Ardyn Blake" since, as mentioned above, he'd have to be some kind of idiot to use his real name when he's tricking people out of hard-earned, or ill-gotten in this case, money. His former mark in this case is the leader, a man named Shane Crowley, and it involved boats that Altair didn't actually own. That's pretty much all I've got about the incident and the gang both, so if you wanted to expand on that we could.


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
Edit: Unrelated, all this talk of Edgar Stone is really screwing with me.

This didn’t occur to me; sorry about that!

GM DeathbySuburbs wrote:
Would everyone like to continue with 5 or recruit one more?

I’m good either way. If we do replace him, I thought the witch with London as their patron was a cool idea, though it’s probably due mainly to my love of Rick Veitch’s take on the Question.

GMDbS, I realize that I didn’t take a drawback (for shame!), and would like to take the Pride drawback and pick up the Friends in Low Places social trait, if that’s alright with you. I’m new to the whole 10 minute background thing, and have also noticed that I failed to provide 3 memories for Stone. I’m working on updating his character sheet now, as well as on his introductory post.


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer
Altair Nikos wrote:
Well, he tries to not fly too high-profile...

I totally understand. I assume that Edgar would have heard about the boat fiasco with Crowley's gang, such that if Altair's problems with them come up once the two are more familiar with one another, a light might go on in his head as to why.

Grand Lodge

Human Cloistered Cleric 3 | HP 24/24 | Saves F4, R4, W6 | AC 16, T 12, FF 14 | Init +2, Perc +8 | CMB +4, CMD 16
Altair Nikos wrote:

I'm OK either way on recruitment. 5 and 6 are both nice numbers. I'm sure a number of the folks from recruitment would like to play their characters.

@Bro Thomas: Altair is more than willing to have conned a priest in the past. The thing is, he just doesn't rightly care about religion beyond that it exists and it's useful for tricking people. I can see him spotting Thomas on a slow day and making him out to be an easy mark. It'd be downright hilarious for Thomas to spot Altair at the party first and recognize him. I feel like I'll enjoy putting my character on the spot and making him scramble to remember who he was supposed to be, though I doubt he would use his actual name for a con; "Mister Nikos" is too Greek sounding for Londoners to be truly at ease. Which would be even more amusing if someone else came along and called him something entirely different.

I think that has some pretty good potential for role playing hilarity. What would have been his con alias, and what name for the fake charity?


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

This is a good time to recruit. On the other hand five is a good number for a game. Up to you GMDbS.


These five are plenty really, although, there were some fantastic offerings. I agree that Malcolm Reid would have been a good choice. Grimm as well. Dubois would have been an interesting shaman from Africa visiting London under some pretense. Lots of good stuff.

Very nice intros into gameplay thus far. Well met.


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

Is it possible to have a walking stick with a silver topper as a club? I know Paizo has an example of a wizard whose club is a walking stick, but it is more the silver top. Silversheen doesn't seem right - but 90gp would buy 18 lbs of silver!


George Fitzroy wrote:
Is it possible to have a walking stick with a silver topper as a club? I know Paizo has an example of a wizard whose club is a walking stick, but it is more the silver top. Silversheen doesn't seem right - but 90gp would buy 18 lbs of silver!

Yes. That would be more appropriate for this setting.


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

@Bro Thomas: Right. Names. Um... Um... *asks RL Pathfinder group for input*

Stowen Clarke, and the Barebone Home for Wayward Children.


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

Potentially Fitzroy could have worked with Stone on a case.

Thomas is - to a degree - a fellow academic. I note he has medical (or at least Heal) training, so potentially they could have met up through the medical community?

The best I can see for Faolan is if they are both looking into her mother's disappearance. If Uncle Padraig served in a more recent conflict, then Fitzroy could have known him from there.

Apologies for the lack of appearance. I'm researching Victorian Style.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

Honestly, I don't need a lot of connections with everyone. I was mostly looking at Edgar because he works a beat


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer

As a general FYI I'm in the EST and generally check the boards several times a day. Usually I have the opportunity to post during the morning/afternoon from work, but if I don't I will post later in the evening.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

I'm Mountain Time myself. Depending on the day, I have the ability to post before work and again after, but I also have a fair number of games, including two I run, so if I've said something here, my priorities may be elsewhere.

Grand Lodge

I'm on central time. I can generally post throughout the day.


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

AEST here :)
Thinking about it, I'm going to switch out the Preconstructed Spellbook. It is a little too close to his goal.
I'll also get rid of the Alchemy Lab (so I don't conflict so much with Faolan), the Wire Saw (can't really justify it yet) and Book of Letters.
I'll pick up a small suite of rooms on the up-most floor of a three story boarding house in the city. Three bedrooms, two of which have been converted into densely packed libraries ( Book Repositories, Arcana & Local) as well as a small lavatory.


CN Male Unchained Rogue (Sczarni Swindler) 3 | HP 24/24 | AC 17, T 13, FF 10 | CMD: 16 | F 2, R 6, W 1 | Init +3 | Per +8

I'm on Central US as well, and I can generally post at nights and afternoons.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

If at any time someone wants to have a longer conversation than the game will allow, I'm perfectly fine with having flex-time conversation in spoilers, provided the GM is. It's a good system for keeping conversations going while simultaneously keeping the game flowing. You just spoiler things that happened before the main post.


Reagan Faolan wrote:
If at any time someone wants to have a longer conversation than the game will allow, I'm perfectly fine with having flex-time conversation in spoilers, provided the GM is. It's a good system for keeping conversations going while simultaneously keeping the game flowing. You just spoiler things that happened before the main post.

I am absolutely okay with this!


HP 18/18 Ins 4/4 Arc 2/6|AC 11(15) FF 10(14) T11|F+2 R+4 W+3|Per +12(14)(16) Init+1|

Fun as it is to try to ape the style of the Holmes adventures, I'm going to change style to match with everyone else. Tell me if this is a mistake, please.


Male Human (Nerd) 15 Shadowcaster Wizard

Sorry I couldn't post today, things were busy. I'm writing one up now.

EDIT: The DC to spot Altair's kukri in his sleeve is a lot lower now. DC16 Perception.


No problem. We are moving pretty fast. As I research this period, I am finding that there is a tremendous possibility that many historical figures, real and fictional, could have crossed paths. It is very odd.


INACTIVE PC | Brawler, tough-as-nails city watchman / law officer
George Fitzroy wrote:
Fun as it is to try to ape the style of the Holmes adventures, I'm going to change style to match with everyone else. Tell me if this is a mistake, please.

I for one have enjoyed your "Holmesian" posts. I can imagine somewhere down the line Edgar finding Fitzroy's journal (composed of all your posts) and just being flabbergasted by it's length and detail. (His own might read along the lines of 3J91 - Hired by S.W., if he were to keep such a thing.)


I am giving the group a chance to interview Rasputin if they want, otherwise Lucretia will attempt to gather the information from him such as who and or where he received the box, etc.


Portrait CN Female Alchemist (grenadier) 3 | HP 24/24 (21/21) | AC 17, T 13, FF 13 | CMD: 16 (18) | F 4 (3), R 6 (8), W 0 (-1) | Init +3 (+5) | Per -1 (-2)
Prepared Extracts:
1st (4/day): Disguise Self, Heightened Awareness, Cure Light Wounds, Bomber's Eye

I think there's a perceived language barrier. A few people attempted to talk to him, but if his grasp of English is weak, and none of us speak Russian, we're going to be at an impasse.

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