Dungeon Crash... The Beginning

Game Master BloodWolven

Warlord yes you can use any special.

Looking good Jeffery, some adjustments:
Fortitude save should be +4
You have 8 skill points, apply one to each class skill I would assume.

Jeffrey C. Flynn

Damn, now I got inspiration for Troll, going shamanistic way (*cough* not at all warcraft inspired *cough*)

Now... that would be quite funny "hi mon, wat'cha doing? Spirit be wit ya"

Lets hope for some good rolls ...

5d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 1, 2, 1) = 11 9
5d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 6, 5, 3) = 18 14
5d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 1, 4) = 9 7
5d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 6, 6, 1) = 21 16
5d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 2, 5, 5) = 20 16
5d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 1, 5, 1) = 13 11

ah well, seems... like I hit something

Plus question: If I would like to create a PC (in this case the troll) who can controll all the primal elements (water, air, fire, earth) I will need to tap all those 4 specials to gain full caster advancement?

Jeffrey C. Flynn

Grovo is there a specific special you are using? It might be best to start with one element and learn the others later. Also I am not sure what kind of things you want him to do.

well, I would envision him going for something akin "spirit contract" but instead with elements. As his connection with elements grow (getting more powerful effects / spells).

Something similar to paladins but instead he is furthering cause of the elements or increasing their influence in the world (trying to keep balance so that none of the four elements grow stronger over another).

In the beginning it might go in the direction "jack-of-all, master-of-none" with his spellcasting and melee-prowess but its getting more specialized towards spells / effects of spells

I think I understand what you are trying to build, I am just not sure how to do it.

Please link Spirit contract, I don't see it in PRD.

Then again if you are wanting to go full caster you won't have any specials... so what will it be? You can always pick up full casting later.

Spirits available for Shamans

Grovo. My suggestion is below. Take it or leave it.

Go full caster later. Get the specials now. We aren't supposed to be the best there is, yet. Not even close. From what I read, no decent meals yet. No major loot. Just benefits from becoming a chosen of a god.

Enjoy the wonder and the opportunity that we have now.

Well to make it work, without spellcasting, 'loophole'. You would pick spirit magic as one special, then pick the four elements which will use the rest of your specials.

Now you can cast the spells of each spirit once as a 1st level Shaman.

Sound fun?

Grovo did you leave?

oh no. I have been checking in here but I havent received update notifications at all o.o

Also was busy with work (excel after excel...) so had a few precious minutes here and there to look at all over class / archetype selection to choose those 4 specials

Okay no rush... I will be away Friday through Sunday for camp, you will be lucky if I get any posting in during that time. I may not be able to get any more posting in until Monday.

Still was just wondering if you were still interested or if you had any questions.

So, here is my submission regarding Troll, apprentice shaman

Any comment regarding the build? Spent some time to think about it and so far he came along nicely although he is quite brutish in the beginning (quite melee orientated)

Vel'osh Farseer should wear light armor or exchange out the light armor feat for Monk AC. With a 16 wisdom, the Monk AC will give you +3 AC.

Vel'Osh, go ahead and add light armor on either studded leather or leather armor.

Are those stats for a WOW troll from somewhere specific or did you just pick the ones that made sense to you?

It looks good, make an alias and start filling out your other character sheet items.

They are something I was thinking would represent troll. As a mythical or monster beings, they are quite strong (high str + barbarian rage bonus) and night-impossible to kill without fire (high con + barbarian rage bonus)-

Wisdom and Intellect were something I was debating over but thought that there were always exceptions (such as shamans or more of shamanistic/mystical icons or leaders) which do sometimes allow for higher representation in the form of Wisdom.

Is this game still recruiting?

Okay I am going to make an attempt, gotta read over the rules first.

Still not entirely clear on the "specials" part, is there another section of this that has info?

roll: 5d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 2, 5, 3) = 15
roll: 5d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 4, 5, 1) = 15
roll: 5d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 6, 1, 6) = 20
roll: 5d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 6, 3, 5) = 23
roll: 5d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 2, 2, 5) = 17
roll: 5d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 1, 4, 3) = 15

Hrm, so 12,12,17,16,13,11 for stats. Not terrible.

This game is always recruiting... It looks like you will be apart of the next group though!

Grovo, the question is are you trying to make the WOW troll base race or go with an actual troll. I just need to know so that we can get this settled.

Lots of information! ;)

wow troll based race actually :) Something akin to Vol'jin

Please look at the campaign info for creating a race. I would think that WoW trolls would have +2 on wis and Dex, then a minus on either Cha or int. Please look up the other name for a troll in WoW. Most of the other special abilities make sense.

Still looking for new players. Down to two active PCs now, looking for at least 2 more.

Dotting. Will read more on the details on the weekend.

Sounds good Chess

Today, I just follow Chess around. He finds all the neat forums.

5d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 6, 1, 3) = 14
5d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 5, 3, 6) = 21
5d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 5, 3, 4) = 18
5d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 3, 6, 6) = 23
5d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 4, 3, 2) = 15
5d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 3, 5, 5) = 22

I wanna see what I'll get for stats before I think of how to make my terrible, terrible idea a reality.

So that's 12, 16, 12, 16, 11, and 15. Almost, almost, ALMOST a 12 and a 16 on the last one. That would have been very interesting.

Actually, that was rather easy to pick out for starting off.

How about these for character specials:

Oracle Mystery: Spirit Vessels (Su): You can channel wendo spirits into lifeless bodies, reanimating them to aid you. When using the animate dead spell, you can control 6 HD worth of undead creatures per caster level rather than 4 HD. In addition, any zombies or juju zombies you create using animate dead, create undead, or similar spells possess maximum hit points.

Animate Dead: 3/day

Many Lives:
At 5th level, if a reincarnated druid is killed, she may automatically reincarnate (as the spell) 1 day later. The reincarnated druid appears in a safe location within 1 mile of her previous body. At will for the next 7 days, she can sense the presence of her remains as if using locate object as a spell-like ability. If she is killed during these 7 days, she remains dead and does not reincarnate. The many lives ability does not function if the reincarnated druid is slain by a death effect. A reincarnated druid cannot be raised from the dead or resurrected, though she can be reincarnated.

@GM Wolf, And if we don't have levels, do negative levels do the -1 to all rolls or is it just perma-death, since we're all level 1, technically.

Is there a list of class specials somewhere? Or what classifies as a class special? Can we create something completely new in this case? Are we gonna start with crystals to catch up with the other players as if we have been "playing" for a while too?

Cool. Yes Crayfish those specials can work.

I would be fine with negative levels being -1. All death at the moment is pretty permanent.

If you look at any class there is a place that is marked special off to the right you can pick any of those specials there's plenty to pick from you don't need to make a new one. You can check out any of the players' sheets.

That depend as on your background story Chess. Though The others have not done very much fighting and have not gained very many crystals. In fact I think they have only collected like a total of eight since the starting of the game.Not eight each a total of eight for the whole party.

Ok... Designing something here. I'm looking at the other players to see if I understand better the system. I get that we receive four "specials" but how do we know how much each class "special" really costs? Are we restricted to level 1 "specials" from the classes? If each special gives you 3 spells/day, what level of spell are we talking about? And for how long (out of game) have the "game" been online?

There's 4 specials? Then I should tag on something to get rid of negative levels on the cheap.

We'll throw on Purify, 3/day. Purify

I think it's up to 5th level specials. Though spells I don't really know. It's probably on case-by-case, though I saw someone with lightning bolt so I figured animate dead would be fine.

Now to make a character sheet.

It's 4 specials if you turn down Light Armor Proficiency.

I'm a little lost, but trying to focus on the concept I want. I tried to look at the other players, but the quantity of specials, feats and gear is so off the original rules that I just gave up on the mechanics side :$

Oh, I see. Then I think I'll find another way around it.

I'm trying to focus more on the concept at the moment. I have the player well thought and now I'm going through the character. I'm assuming it's okay to use archetype specials - trying to get out of the common place, since many of the existing guys seem to be sticking with stuff like Divine Grace and Monk AC.

Is my character concept acceptable or do I need a little work in some areas? Alice -is- CE, but it's a mild CE. Rather than running around and murdering and hoboing, she just really enjoys the evil stuff.

Sorry guys I have had a really bad cold that has knocked me out. I should get back to posting tomorrow.

Is this still open for new submissions?

Sorry. Didn't notice the game had already started. Just saw the new Recruitment posts and thought it was still going. ><

Go ahead and submit an idea Furry of Space. Two active players, so more would be welcome.

My character hasn't been accepted, so I have no idea if I should be doing something to fix her or to create a new character. My application still stands as is, and I go back to waiting.

Anyway to make her less evil? Maybe more of a chaotic entity waiting for a reason interact with society?

There's always a way! But let's break it down. Chaotic, in Pathfinder, means you normally go against society's base rules. What are society's base rules in video games? Players do quests, craft things, beg for gold, group up together to go on raids etc, etc.

Now, for a chaotic character, they do things. They do things differently or they don't do the things that normal players would (like accept all the quests ever, and then decide to never do them).

Chaotic, by itself, is fine.

But what about evil players? These are your trolls, your player killers, your griefers. They enjoy torturing others for fun. But evil characters can also be entirely selfish beings, refusing to give anything that they've worked hard enough to acquire. They pick need, even though they never need the item that pops up. They don't hand anything to noobs, ever.

My character's evil is a lesser evil, than say, the Joker. The Joker is the extreme-r side of CE. She is selfish, self-centered, and generally is more interested in things that interest her than doing quests for the poor quest givers. She's the kinda character that would laugh when someone does this huge, long raid and gets junk in return (which is enjoyment of out misery).

But she wouldn't murder that person just after they told her the story of their unsuccessful raid. But I suppose she would want to interact with the world, just like anyone would, but her priorities are different. She's dead, pun intended, inside. And is just as likely to have tea all day as she is to go on a murdering spree...of monsters that she doesn't like the look of. Not for any particular reason that normal people would farm a monster for, ie. a quest, or a specific drop.

And someone would congratulate her on her recent extermination of 100 pigbears, but she wouldn't care about the title, only the fond memories of their death cries.

I had a DM that described Lawful and Chaotic as External and Internal once. It was very eye opening to the alignments.

I would describe my character as internally evil, rotten, with a heart of dead wood. But externally polite, nice even, on the right days. She will do her own thing, but if someone that's party'd up with her dies, she's not going to cry. She's going to laugh and spit out some quote about something or another. Then she's going to have tea in the middle of the battle, and say something to those who question her, "It's in remembrance of them. How cruel of you to not honor their passing!" But in reality, she was just thirsty.

Or maybe you mean for me to make her not an evil character. As that would certainly make her less evil. Lawful, Chaotic, and Neutral, right next to Evil, are all equally evil.

I can easily make her into a true neutral kinda character. But I would make her to be the more dangerous form of true neutral.

Neutral can be a dangerous alignment when it represents apathy, indifference, and a lack of conviction.