DM Scarogoth's Carrion Crown Adventure (Inactive)

Game Master Scarogoth

A roleplaying campaign for four characters.


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Oops, looks like I needed to connect this thread. OK, done now.


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]

If you could also link it in the Recruitment thread that might help the others find it.


Male Tiefling (Devil Blood) Magus 1 (Blackblade Kensai)

I'm here.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

DM Scarogoth,

I've been doing some thinking. I've looked over the bard/monk and the party, I think it might be better if I played an arcane caster. I'm sticking with the background, but I'm thinking of playing some type of wizard. Let me know if you would be against this change. I can stay with the bard/monk if you would prefer, but I feel a wizard would better round out a party with two divine spontaneous casters and a paladin.

Liberty's Edge

Xavian Graves wrote:

DM Scarogoth,

I've been doing some thinking. I've looked over the bard/monk and the party, I think it might be better if I played an arcane caster. I'm sticking with the background, but I'm thinking of playing some type of wizard. Let me know if you would be against this change. I can stay with the bard/monk if you would prefer, but I feel a wizard would better round out a party with two divine spontaneous casters and a paladin.

Might not be a bad idea, but then the other thing we're missing is a skillmonkey, which the bard would fill nicely.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

The Inquisitor gets 6 skill points a level. He's a skill monkey. Gets a lot of very good class skills as well. Gets the same level bonus for tracking like a ranger and a bonus on Sense Motive and Intimidate equal to half level. And a rather large and useful selection of spells. An Inquisitor feels a very similar role to a bard with a stronger emphasis on combat and less group friendly abilities.

Liberty's Edge

Xavian Graves wrote:
The Inquisitor gets 6 skill points a level. He's a skill monkey. Gets a lot of very good class skills as well. Gets the same level bonus for tracking like a ranger and a bonus on Sense Motive and Intimidate equal to half level. And a rather large and useful selection of spells. An Inquisitor feels a very similar role to a bard with a stronger emphasis on combat and less group friendly abilities.

Ah - I forgot to even consider my own character! Of course the inquisitor fills the skills roll pretty well. And we are certainly very divine-heavy right now, so an arcane caster would probably help.

Shadow Lodge

F Human Inquisitor 4 {HP32/32; AC16/12/14; F+5 R+4 W+8; Init+7; Perc+10}

Re-posting here to keep it out of the recruitment thread. Stats should be complete.

Liberty's Edge

Since she's a minor and relatively unknown deity, here's some information about the goddess Milani.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

That's cool. Seems like a cool goddess.


Xavian Graves wrote:

DM Scarogoth,

I've been doing some thinking. I've looked over the bard/monk and the party, I think it might be better if I played an arcane caster. I'm sticking with the background, but I'm thinking of playing some type of wizard. Let me know if you would be against this change. I can stay with the bard/monk if you would prefer, but I feel a wizard would better round out a party with two divine spontaneous casters and a paladin.

You're recasting your character as Basil Rathbone, and not Robert Downey Jr, you mean. ;-) Fine by me -- bit difficult to do the predicting-battle-to-its-end thing if dice are involved!


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]

How much spending cash should we use?


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

Very true. Every time I rolled poorly the slow motion cuts would have to be rewound.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

Wow. I was looking for an intelligence based class that had more skill points and offered something slightly different than the wizard. I found it. I think I'm going to go with alchemist instead of wizard. That would be perfect for the concept I'm leaning towards.


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1

Checking in.
Btw, my character was built with a 20 pt buy and average starting wealth. Was this ok?


Count Buggula wrote:
Since she's a minor and relatively unknown deity, here's some information about the goddess Milani.

I'm playing a CN half-insane Cleric of Rovagug (Meraxilar Zoon) with a bloodthirsty Inquisitor of Milani (Caldazar) in DM Tark's CoT Nobles without a House PbP. Last 4 pages are rather explosive with rp'ing between us. Of course a N Fighter (Tal) of Gorum, an Evil unhinged Witch (Pollux), and a Lawful Chelaxian Lawyer (Sclivian) help add to the tension as well. Fun as heck too.


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]

Cassandra's gear was purchased in the earlier campaign. If there's anything I need to drop, let me know.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

I looked over the alchemist. It's another mostly physical damage dealer. I'm going to stick with the wizard. He's pretty much done. Need to write in his background and buy equipment. Then I'm ready to go.


Alessa Velorei wrote:

Checking in.

Btw, my character was built with a 20 pt buy and average starting wealth. Was this ok?

Yes, absolutely. Thanks.

Liberty's Edge

Xavian Graves wrote:
I looked over the alchemist. It's another mostly physical damage dealer. I'm going to stick with the wizard. He's pretty much done. Need to write in his background and buy equipment. Then I'm ready to go.

Can't ever go wrong with just a straight wizard. That should round us out nicely.


Xavian Graves wrote:
I looked over the alchemist. It's another mostly physical damage dealer. I'm going to stick with the wizard. He's pretty much done. Need to write in his background and buy equipment. Then I'm ready to go.

Hi Maddigan, Xavian's looking good, but by my reckoning you've still one skill point to spend -- you appear to have listed Sense Motive twice, so you've still your human bonus skill to allocate. Also, you have some ability modifiers to add to your Saving Throws. Is "Graves" ironic? ;-)


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

I see the last names Graves as topical. It represents both the flavor of the adventure in terms of horror and undead and his personality.

Thanks for reminding me about the saves. I would really be short changing myself.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

What the heck is going on here? The changes to my character reverted back to an old character.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

My character is done. I'm ready to roll.


Great. Let's get this show on the road! ;-)


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]
DM Scarogoth wrote:


Three girls and one boy, then... interesting.

Once upon a time there were three little girls who worked for the Temple and they each were assigned very "hazardous" duties. But I took them away from all that and now they work for me. My name is Xavian.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

Haha. I watched those movies recently. Pretty fun films.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

I didn't roll a diplomacy check as I wasn't sure if you were going to base success defusing the mob with a roll or roleplaying. I probably should have at least aided one of the other characters. Nice win on the first encounter for us. I'm enjoying the interaction. Excellent descriptions and story flow.


Shanoa was first off with a Diplomacy check, so I worked with that to start with, as it was a good one. Then Xavian's mention of the sheriff was sufficient to unnerve a couple more of the crowd who was just along for the ride, but Alessa's show of naked, yet carefully-couched reversed steel was sufficient to persuade any malingerers they'd probably function better unpunctured. Her final invocation of sacred rites and hallowed ground did the rest. If there's one thing round here the locals put faith in, it's hallowed ground. Once their leader was standing alone, he too saw retreat as the better part of valour.

Apologies for misnaming Shanoa as Cassandra in my in-game post -- I fear I was on my iPhone at the time and couldn't see much of the screen -- it's too late to edit it now, unfortunately.


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1

Respectfully, we probably should have waited for Cassandra's actions when the mob encounter was set up. :) I'm all for rapid posting but I was initially waiting on Vanulf's posts myself.

If Vanulf said he was going to be temporarily MIA, then ignore the above.

BTW, fun game so far. :)


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]

Sorry for the delay, but my daughter was feeling a little under the weather when I picked her up from school yesterday. We spent the evening just snuggling up on the couch and watching christmas shows.

I probably wouldn't have done much but try to bolster Shanoa's diplomacy check.


Admonishment accepted. Like I say, I got a bit confused between Shanoa and Cassandra when reading, and I wanted to respond to the successful Diplomacy check before other characters "undid" her success by commenting in another fashion. Other encounters will not hinge on a single die roll so much, I hope. Apologies to Vanulf, if you feel hard done by -- I've a feeling avoiding this was the very reason you wanted to come in on the campaign, so I shall try to not to do it again.


Thinking on it some more, I suppose it's because (and no criticism is intended here) the post included a die roll I'd not specifically asked for. I like the idea of people being able to colour their "roleplaying" as a result of their "roll" in the same post, but what are the guidelines for doing this in a PbP? You're all mostly more experienced GMs than I, so I'll happily take advice.


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1

No worries Scarogoth, you are doing great. Love your descriptions, dialogue, and handling of the PCs actions so far. A great start. :)

I hope I didnt come across too snippy with the cassandra thing, that was definately not my intention. :)


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1
DM Scarogoth wrote:
Thinking on it some more, I suppose it's because (and no criticism is intended here) the post included a die roll I'd not specifically asked for. I like the idea of people being able to colour their "roleplaying" as a result of their "roll" in the same post, but what are the guidelines for doing this in a PbP? You're all mostly more experienced GMs than I, so I'll happily take advice.

I don't know much more than you about this aspect of pbp GMing. This is only the 2nd pbp I have been accepted into. I say just wing it.

As a new pbp player myself, it just comes naturally in that kind of situation. We had an opportunity to role-play to try and disperse the mob with some dialogue. I just added a diplomacy roll for "colour" (as you say). :) I figured if I rolled low they would have took my statement as threatening and might have attacked or walked off intimidated. If I rolled high, perhaps I would have made them realize that they were wrong and acting against one of their very own neighbors. I hope I didnt overstep any bounds. :)


Female Changeling Oracle (Life) 4
Character Information:
[HP: 27/27]; [Armor Class: 21; Touch: 12; Flat Footed: 19]; [BAB: +3; CMB: +3; CMD: 15]; [Saves: Fortitude: +4*; Reflex: +4*; Will: +6* (+2 v. death effects)]; [Initiative: +2]; [Perception: +1]

No blood, no foul.

The thing to remeber about PbP is that the pace is sloow. I'm in two othw PbP's that have been going on for over a year now and am only second level in those games.
The tendancy in the begining is to try and speed up play but in the long run this is impossible. Real life will intrude and things will slow down.
A PbP game, like a tabletop game, is an organic thing. It's always nice to give the players a chance to respond to the situation so that they don't feel "railroaded" or left out, but this is not always possible. We are all nature enough to realize there was no slight intended.

Liberty's Edge

I've both played in and GM'd for several PbP games so I'll weigh in. One of the things I do personally is never ask for a skill check - by the time you ask and get a response you've wasted a day. I roll most things like skill checks and saves myself, then tell them the outcome - speeds things up considerally, and in most cases actually adds to the immersion since it removes some ability for metagaming. That said, I invite players to make their own skill checks wherever they feel is appropriate, which often helps to decide the flavor of a post.


Cool, thanks for that. I sort of think that's my own viewpoint. :-) Still happy to hear from others, though.

Liberty's Edge

You can run it however you like, but might I suggest you keep the "trust" mechanic hidden from us? We don't need to know the mechanics behind it, just let us know when something changes that actually affects us through in-game dialogue.

DM Scarogoth:

Also, the trust mechanic doesn't work very well - it's not actually possible to gain very much trust because many of the things that were supposed to be in the module to add to it were cut or just didn't make it in, so you'll have to find other ways to give trust points or otherwise fudge the mechanic. There's a ton of ideas in the Carrion Crown discussion threads here on the forums - make sure you read through that to help decide how you want to run it.


Ah, OK, sage advice. Thank you.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

Is Milani an obscure deity? Being a minor deity doesn't necessarily mean obscure. Obscure I figured would be some deity like Gyronna or a demon lord that can't be openly worshipped or a deity only worshipped in a particular area of the world. That was my particular viewpoint. I know it is the DM's call.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

As far as rolls go for PbP GMing, I've seen GMs do the following consistently:

1. Roll initiative for the group and then post the order. This makes it easier for the DM to start combats and track the flow. Waiting on everyone to roll initiative can slow things down immensely.

2. Tell the group that if a person doesn't post within a certain time frame they will be NPCed, so they don't slow everything down if something comes up. Usually a day or two is what most DMs wait for.

I don't much mind you making rolls for my character. It's not like I have my own special dice as I do when I play at the table top. I'm usually one of those gamers that has dice that have done well for me over the years, and then I definitely like to make my own rolls. But this is a programmed dice roll. I have little trouble with the DM rolling something for me now and again.

Whatever conventions you come up with to make the game smoother for yourself and us is fine by me. As long as I get to roleplay, I'll be into what's going on.

Liberty's Edge

Xavian Graves wrote:
Is Milani an obscure deity? Being a minor deity doesn't necessarily mean obscure. Obscure I figured would be some deity like Gyronna or a demon lord that can't be openly worshipped or a deity only worshipped in a particular area of the world. That was my particular viewpoint. I know it is the DM's call.

That's fine, and that's why we have a DM to make such decisions. I guess I would have considered anyone who's not one of the major deities to be "obscure" but I can certainly see it that way too. Either way works for me.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

I noticed from the link you provided Milani sounded strongly associated with Aroden and Iomedae. Iomedae calls her a "sister" and she was a saint in Aroden's church. She seems to be worshipped in any area with strong rebellion. I didn't read anywhere in the link you provided that her religion was obscure like Gyronna's, who takes painful measures to keep her religion secret. I figured she was one of the better known minor deities. I want to get it straight for role-play purposes, so I'll go with Scarogoth's determination that I know the symbol and the name, but not much about Milani.

Liberty's Edge

Yeah...she's not deliberately obscure, she's just kind of a niche religion and doesn't have a formal clergy or places of worship like the major deities. I'm good with calling her somewhere in the middle.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

Cool. You made an alias for Kendra.


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1

good group so far :)

Liberty's Edge

Yeah, good chemistry. Let's just not get burnt out - I'd really like to see where this goes.


Female Elf Fighter 1 - Init +3|AC 17/13/14|HP 11|FORT +2, REF +4, WILL +1

Im capping myslef at 2 pbp atm. Its all the time I have and I want to keep up my frequent posting. These 2 characters couldnt be more opposite than they are. Enjoying both games.


Male Human (Half-Chelaxian/Half-Scarzni) Wizard (Diviner) 1

I slowed down posting to give everyone else a chance to respond. I work a very slow job and am pretty much by a computer all day, I can respond at a pace most probably can't. So I'm going to make sure to moderate my pace.

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