Found a Q&A on the ask JJ thread that helped me to understand Moonlight Bridge a little better.
A bridge going up isn't a bridge... it's a wall.And the power isn't called "moonlight wall."
Sorry if that sounds snarky... but it's important to keep in mind the flavor and intention of a power when you start looking for "creative" methods of using it in ways it wasn't intended to be used.
Moonlight Bridge is a power that lets you cross over things that are perilous or hard to move through. "Any direction" means that you can attach any two points within range. The use of words like "path" further enforces the fact that it has to be mostly horizontal that you can easily walk on.
I also realised that it only counts as a wall of force when attacked, so can't easily be used for battlefield control. That said, it works very nicely here for the purpose your wanting to use it!
Essentially, it goes from solid surface to solid surface, spanning from your feet until the point you build it to.
And heres another post that helped me to get my head round it-
It is a bridge that spans.It must connect from the oracle's feet to the opposite side of what ever it is that the bridge is being erected to facilitate crossing. It is not a wall. It is not a cloverleaf highway. It does not discriminate about those crossing until such time as the Oracle erecting it crosses over it, ending that bridge. There is no limit other than actions and the Oracle's Charisma bonus as to how many bridges may be so erected at one time.
Each individual bridge must complete a span (solid surface to solid surface). This might be something as straightforward as crossing a series of stone columns sticking out of a (very deep and large) pit that you want to get to the other side of. Granted, that's a pretty big bridge in its own right (unless you're very low level).
Moonlight Bridge is a VERY handy way to bypass pit traps, moats, annoying series of balance/acrobatics checks embodied in the form of various chambers/rooms filled with nasty stuff in the bottom (just bridge on over and walk!) and to provide yourselves a way out (as long as the Oracle can bring up the rear at speed with the rest of the party leading the way) of pit-laden hell holes. Not to provide cheese-sourced walls of force and other face-palm inducing moments.
It seems clear that the intent is not to have some muttonhead trying to cross the Grand Canyon by multiple successive uses of this ability.
Which, by the way, is not even possible except at the narrowest points of the aforementioned Canyon. Maybe. At the widest point the Grand Canyon is about 18 miles across. A 20th level Heavens Oracle - IF there were conveniently placed columns of solid stone every 200 feet - would require a Charisma bonus of 27 to cover a full mile in this fashion, and does so in a straight line.
Thought it was worth posting how I came to clarity about it, as on my initial reading I honestly thought it was early access wall of force...
Yeah, I did consider the possibility of the 'bridge' being used as a 10' wide, 70' high wall of force by starting at Fenna's feet and heading straight up. But the idea of using it as a 10' high, 70' long wall by somehow twisting it by 90 degrees is just absurd.
BAM! 70 damage crit on great cleave. Level 5 Barbarian with two negative levels for the win. I suppose Kundai is grateful negative level's don't apply penalties to damage (although he is certainly feeling the lack of HP...)
Shame his AC is now 11 while also being prone though, for effective AC7...
I was also highly amused and pleased to see Ricter make his soft fall check, despite a -5 armor check penalty. That reminds me, didn't roll Kundal's falling damage- .
I'm going to hold of until after Ricter, as his actions might change the plan. I did hit preview before deciding this, but the only roll was a failed attempt to fast dismount, which I'll keep.
No problem.
Truthfully, the dimensions weren't of particular note to me when I was drawing the map; i've been stupidly busy of late and it took me long enough as it is. It shouldn't be nearly so wide but I stand by the height :).
Sorry, just didn't quite find the time to update today. I'll get back on it tomorrow morning.
That really surprised me the first time it happened. I had just killed the dragon at the watchtower south of Whiterun and felt awesome. I saw the giants and thought, "Hey, they should be big and slow!"
Launched
That really surprised me the first time it happened. I had just killed the dragon at the watchtower south of Whiterun and felt awesome. I saw the giants and thought, "Hey, they should be big and slow!"
Launched
I'll be out of contact until the very end of July, due to a trip to Kiev followed by days spent packing up the flat i'm living in here in Ukraine followed by a 3 day bus journey back. Its easier to just declare my absence now rather than try and keep up with things during this busy time. Roll on August!
Consider this game on hiatus until 1st of August, although I would like to know if Casimir's going to try and get Kip inside the estate somehow.
Oh and Ricter? Thats another called demon slain with that roll. Fenna, you have lots of time to plan your action at least.
Roger that, Alex. I'll work things out with Kip.
Be advised that my MSN account has been locked for security reasons, and since I no longer have access to the e-mail used to create it, it may take a while to get it unlocked and I may be forced to create a new one in the end. So PM, e-mail, facebook or google chat is the way to go if anyone wants to get hold of me.
Have a good time off the boards Alex, you know you are going to be chomping at the bit to post after about 4-5 days.... :]
Alright... Lets get things rolling again.
Yeah!
Heads up - I lost access to my MSN account - please add me as a contact with my new one - jacob.trier(a)gmail.com
Don't be offended if the add takes me a while. In fact, by the time I have internet access sufficient to make MSN work (my grandma is with BT and its awful- 0.24mbps downspeed...) I'll have to dig around for your e-mail. Add me- alexkilcoyne@hotmail.com
Don't be offended if the add takes me a while. In fact, by the time I have internet access sufficient to make MSN work (my grandma is with BT and its awful- 0.24mbps downspeed...) I'll have to dig around for your e-mail. Add me- alexkilcoyne@hotmail.com
Done.
Hey Jacob, you still with us?
Sorry for slowness on my part. A trip to my mother in weymouth has proven to be far busier than I anticipated.
Hey Jacob, you still with us?
Sorry for slowness on my part. A trip to my mother in weymouth has proven to be far busier than I anticipated.
No problem, hope he had a great time.
In case it ever comes up, i'm happy for Malthir and Ricter to do a "shield wall advance" together by one delaying to the other's initiative and moving on the same init count. I know the initiative system can make such a thing awkward so thought i'd say how to do it.
Expect a little slowdown again. A trip to Southampton for a few days where my posting time is likely to be limited.
I should be "settled" until early September after this trip.
Its waiting for me to stop visiting old friends after a year abroad and settle down somewhere for more time :)
By the way, something I found out yesterday that might save you as much OOC tags as I always end up using. Also, a neat way to get green text.
You can give your DICE tags a name, like making named spoilers. For example, lets imagine the Tarrasque tried to bite Malthir the paladin.
I've heard some DMs complain about the way using the dice tags in that way make the text look when replied/quoted. Let's see.
[dice=Knowledge (paizo forum)]1d20+34
vs.
He then heals any wounds he has with his powers
Meh, can't see that it makes that much difference. I guess they don't like the dice tag showing up when quoted.
Not an issue for me personally :).
I hope people are enjoying Casimir's diplomacising. I certainly am :)
I am as well!
Hope he keeps his head! ;)
What, Casimir lose his temper....never!
Oh wait...lose his head...yeah, i recon the odds of that happening are fairly high.
Alex, do you have a problem with a letter scribed by Malthir's hand for Casimir to deliver to the council for the end of the meeting if things went well?
It is more of a fluff letter and will not reference anything stated in the thread...I am not sure why I didn't think of it earlier, it would have been something that Malthir would have done but am fine if you are not comfortable with the retcon...
Will do.
Very nicely done Jacob!
Very nicely done Jacob!
Thanks - and once I've gone and pissed the council well and truly off, I can say "Oh, and Malthir expected me to muck this up, so here's a nice letter explaining what I really meant. :-)
Still playing catchup a lot and these Restov posts in particular taking quite some time to make. Hoping to be wrapping up both current scenes relatively soon.
"My lords. Why exactly did you append the regent's name and authority to the charter when you knew it was a complete and utter fabrication."
... runs....
Heh... go on... I double dare you ;). Kiddy gloves have been off for a couple of levels now...
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"My lords. Why exactly did you append the regent's name and authority to the charter when you knew it was a complete and utter fabrication."
... runs....
That would be... MAD... but... minus the mutually part. :P
Kardas seems woefully disadvantaged in the whole armies rampaging hither and yon on our doorstep thing. :)
I am Malthir Al Dagon, this is Fenna, Ricter, and Kundal.
...but they're not important enough to have last names.
:D
Wondering if anyone would pick up on that...I was not opposed to the last names, just typing them...
Where is everyone? :)
I believe that Alex is pretty busy with work...not sure what Cas' excuse is :]
I believe that Alex is pretty busy with work...not sure what Cas' excuse is :]
Lazy, uninspired, indifferent...take your pick. :-)
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Just kidding, as always RL conspires to keep me from my PbP fun. Update coming.
Oh, and in case you are wondering, I asked customer support to switch my main forum alias to my real name.
Sorry all. Had major stomach pain over the past couple of days that has prevented me from having much energy to make posts.