| Uret Jet |
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RIP Joe. He won't survive this encounter.
| rando1000 |
Hey, guys. Gonna post this here rather than on the main boards because you guys have been great players and I respect your opinions.
As you can tell from this game, I like to use the Pathfinder rules set for games outside of pure fantasy genre because I feel it's a strong rules set and because I know it fairly well.
Assuming I was going to run a game in the espionage genre (Mission Impossible, James Bond, etc) what system would you guys suggest I use, outside of Pathfinder?
Now assume I was going to run an organized crime game. Same answer? Something else?
| Uret Jet |
i'd go with Savage Worlds, myself. It's a pretty versatile system, and leaves plenty of room for customizing to the GM's discretion. Plus, it has a lot of modules that modify the game in ways that might even mimic like how you're mentioning, such as Deadlands Noir.
Atlas2112
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Imma concur with SW. It's lighter than PF, yet heavier than say, Dungeon World. And, yes, it has enough expansions so it can fit into any genre you care. I've done Super hero (Necessary Evil expansion) Fallout-esque (with the base game), Cyberpunk (Interface Zero), and even a CoC-type(also with base game).
Hence, yes, SW is simple enough to be able to write up an interesting PC (or NPC) in a few minutes, yet complicated enough so that everyone can be unique.
Also, the best part, is that a lot of it is free.
There's a quick start FAQ here for new players, and a combat guide for those that want to get into some deeper nuts and bolts of play style.
| JonGarrett |
FATE. You can do whatever you want with FATE. And you can find the SRD here.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
Outside of Pathfinder, I've always been a huge fan of GURPS. You can just do so much with it, and especially in 4th edition they streamlined it and got rid of (most... magic is still the tacked on mess it's been since 1st edition lol although they do have rules for throwing out the mess and using "Powers based magic" which I prefer overall, since you can't do as much as the standard GURPS Magic rules, but you do it better. So, my Powers mage might not be able to throw 10 small fireball, teleport to New York, turn into a wolf, resurrect her allies, and summon an Earth elemental, BUT she can nuke the city and teleport to the moon to watch the explosion. :P) a lot of the clutter of certain genres using TOTALLY different rules (worst case was Psionics where in 3rd edition I could make a 300pt telekinetic able to pick you up and throw you into a wall at 9 times the speed of light because the telekinesis rules started to break down exponentially after level 20. However, 4th ed they fixed it so that Telekinesis uses normal strength rules, just at a distance and 10% of the cost :P)
Plus, while it doesn't help if you don't have the actual books, their official character creation software is superior to that of any other game I've played, since it's not cluttered up with pretty graphics (the official D&D 3.0 one had that problem.. The company that made it for them spent more money and time making it look pretty than they did on making a quality usable product) and just does what it's supposed to do. Plus, you know the rules are correct, since the 'data files' are written by the GURPS Line Editor. Also, when a new book comes out you don't have to buy the data files, you just tell the software to update and it will take you to the webpage to download the latest data set.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
Of all the bad luck, finally got the rest of the parts for my new computer, and when my friend (who has built many computers before) and I put it together, the power supply unit started smoking. Luckily it was not connected to the motherboard, but had been before than... so while a new one is on the way, I'm praying it didn't fry the motherboard :(
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
Also, I have forgotten how much we were supposed to pay for a year of average living what was it again?
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
I'm also looking at item creation feats, perhaps Craft Magic Weapons. Is that ok?
| rando1000 |
Very rough, I hope your computer'll be alright.
Rando, question, were the ninjas carrying anything notable? Dave would've checked them. Oh- And is this money considered equiv to gold for the purposes of magic items, or is there conversion necessary?
They had shinobi-to, shuriken x 10 each, grapples with silk rope (100') and standard brown and black outfits. Nothing to identify them. They were of mixed ethnic heritage (meaning each different, not all mixed together).
You'll have to run any magic items by me, but I'd call it about 1000 GP (10 to 1 dollars for gold).
| rando1000 |
Also, I have forgotten how much we were supposed to pay for a year of average living what was it again?
I'm a little fast and loose with cash because I like having real money (as opposed to D20 Modern Wealth system) but a certain amount of RL stuff can be hand-waved for purposes of streamlining the game.
Most of the PCs have some sort of work that pays most of their bills, so I'd say supplementing that with about $5000 a year puts each of you solidly in average lifestyle. I may just continue the trend I've been doing which is to take care of it off-screen through some sort of bulk payment (as in this adventure) and just give you real amounts after that's handled.
Now if you wanted to up your lifestyle to Wealthy, we'd have to discuss how to handle that.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
So guess what guys... the PSU didn't fry the motherboard. That's good right?
Second PSU started smoking too, though. Which means... the MOTHERBOARD fried the PSU. TWO of them. Fun times.
So, I had to order ANOTHER PSU and another motherboard and another CPU (still waiting for the PSU and CPU to arrive tomorrow, the new motherboard will take a few more days... it was from a 3rd party seller (though Amazon is like "um send a return label plz k thx" when I told them they were wanting me to pay for the return shipping) and they're kinda slow, especially since I can only talk to them via email.
Thank God for Amazon's awesome return/replacement policy on computer parts.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
That's rough, mate. Coincidentally, I'm having a new computer built myself. Hopefully it won't run into the same problems yours,did.
Well, my friend said that about 10% (give or take) of all computer components are defective. So, I just had the terribly bad luck of hitting the 10% on my first build.
| rando1000 |
Second PSU started smoking too, though. Which means... the MOTHERBOARD fried the PSU. TWO of them. Fun times.
That is so weird. I've built probably 50 computers and I've never seen anything like that; I wouldn't have even thought it possible. Mind blown.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago wrote:That is so weird. I've built probably 50 computers and I've never seen anything like that; I wouldn't have even thought it possible. Mind blown.
Second PSU started smoking too, though. Which means... the MOTHERBOARD fried the PSU. TWO of them. Fun times.
Yep. Even my friend was like WTF and so he called another friend and explained the situation, and it was the other friend that said it was the north bridge was faulty.
Now the 3rd party company I ordered the motherboard is giving me the runaround... wanting me to pay the return shipping myself (no refunds on that) and if I want a refund rather than a replacement they have a 15% restocking fee (seriously? restocking fee? You damn well better not be restocking this motherboard you morons!)... so I called Amazon and was like WTF and so they are doing an A-to-Z guarantee investigation because they agreed that I shouldn't have to pay return shipping when the motherboard caused me to have to replace two power supplies and the CPU (while we are not 100% sure the CPU was damaged, it's highly likely that if it had the capability to fry the PSUs, it would the CPU too)
Also, still working on updating my character, should be done by tomorrow evening, but quick question, what do you think of the Inscribe Magical Tattoo feat? :)
| rando1000 |
Also, still working on updating my character, should be done by tomorrow evening, but quick question, what do you think of the Inscribe Magical Tattoo feat? :)
I can certainly see it being useful. Having a some crafting capability in the group could expand your options a bit.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
Alright, cool then I'll take that as my feat and the required skill points too (I could have sworn I took Craft: Tattoo on this character, but I didn't...)
As for my computer, I just realized that the company that I bought the motherboard from charged me $98 then ordered it from NewEgg.com for $89.99 and gifted it to me. That form of "drop shipping" is a direct violation of Amazon policy. I've reported it to Amazon.
That also explains their 15% restocking fee and their 'no cross shipment' policy, and their unwillingness to pay for return shipping. They can't profit that way because they then have to pay to return it to NewEgg.com (or not? I don't know NewEgg's return policy, it's been years since I ordered from them and didn't have any problems)
| rando1000 |
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As for my computer, I just realized that the company that I bought the motherboard from charged me $98 then ordered it from NewEgg.com for $89.99 and gifted it to me. That form of "drop shipping" is a direct violation of Amazon policy. I've reported it to Amazon.
Very shady. I've been lucky enough all the bad parts I've bought have been on work's dime and have either been so cheap as to be inconsequential or I've been able to play the 'I spent ten thousand dollars here last year, make it right or I'm taking my business elsewhere' card.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
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Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago wrote:Very shady. I've been lucky enough all the bad parts I've bought have been on work's dime and have either been so cheap as to be inconsequential or I've been able to play the 'I spent ten thousand dollars here last year, make it right or I'm taking my business elsewhere' card.
As for my computer, I just realized that the company that I bought the motherboard from charged me $98 then ordered it from NewEgg.com for $89.99 and gifted it to me. That form of "drop shipping" is a direct violation of Amazon policy. I've reported it to Amazon.
Yeah, I am an Amazon Prime member, so that helps me on Amazon's end, and I even called Newegg a bit ago to verify, and they verified that yes, the motherboard was sold to Ace Micro who bought it as a gift for me (and not only that, but they fully understood what happened here and were willing to let me send the motherboard back to them for free and send me a replacement (not Ace Micro), however I told them I wanted to wait to see what Amazon said, since I want to make sure Ace Micro gets in trouble for gross violation of Amazon Marketplace policy.)
Whether they misrepresented the number they had in stock or whether they are running a drop shipment scam (List items at a higher price on one site, then when you get the order buy it from a competing site and gift ship it to the person, pocket the profit. People do it on Ebay all the time using Amazon. Even though Amazon doesn't like it, they can't really stop it on Ebay (Ebay doesn't care, as long as you get the item as promised. So always double check to make sure Amazon doesn't have an item before you buy an item on Ebay), however they very much can stop people from drop shipping from other sites to their customers.)
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
Alrighty, Pavel is now ready for action, Craft Magic Arms and Armor and all :-)
Notable changes: Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat, gained Darkvision by storing 6 points of Mental Focus into my Divination implement, now has 3 2nd level spells per day
| rando1000 |
Would I be able to have Dave's sword Keen (Made +1, then the +1 used for the ability), or will it need to be +2 effectively (+1 keen)? I can settle for just the +1 enchantment if not, but I felt it couldn't hurt to ask.
It has to be +1 in order to be keen. If you get the +1, we can work on story ways to add the keen later, either with Pavel's assistance or via some other route.
| Maria Socorro Castillo Santiago |
And a note since it's official... Maria now has started dabbling in tattooing and is able to do magical tattoos. Remember, that magical tattoos are made similar to wondrous items, however as they are 'slotless' they cost double. I will of course do the tattoos for you guys for 'free' you just have to pay the cost to the GM. :P
Also, on a side note... Rando are you a fan of Nightvale? Cause that last post kinda gave me a definite Nightvale vibe :)
| rando1000 |
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Also, on a side note... Rando are you a fan of Nightvale? Cause that last post kinda gave me a definite Nightvale vibe :)
No, but I just checked it out. It looks like we might have some inspirations in common, might have to give it a go at some point. Thanks for the tip.
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
Blarg, curse me having no access to spells such as Masterwork Transformation!
| Uret Jet |
Scrolls, man. scrolls.
Also, Rando, I've been trying to get in touch with Joe's player for the last week, but I havn't heard much back from him. I'll let you know if I here any news, but for now we might have to continue on, as much as I'd prefer to wait.
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
Oh. Right. THOSE.
In that case, Rando, would The Order have been willing to assist me and transform my weapons to masterwork for a fee? If so, at what cost?
| Valda Simmons |
Would it be possible to use the Mechanist archetype? It might be useful to have some Disable Device for magical traps at some point.
| rando1000 |
Would it be possible to use the Mechanist archetype? It might be useful to have some Disable Device for magical traps at some point.
I'll allow it, although if it's just for the traps, the Trapfinder trait my be an option as well.
| rando1000 |
Oh. Right. THOSE.
In that case, Rando, would The Order have been willing to assist me and transform my weapons to masterwork for a fee? If so, at what cost?
Certainly could be done. Isagoras can put you in touch with someone.
| rando1000 |
Dave, has Joey responded to you at all? Or just not in earnest? I'm just asking to see if he's still sporadically on the boards, or has just disappeared entirely.
I also tried to message him with no results. A little concerned. For now, assume that Joey is there, and I will RP him as necessary until we get a more solid feel for what is going on.
| Pavel Dmitrovic |
The dramatic in me begs to have us leave in the evening :-P But I that could leave those of us without darkvision at a distinct disadvantage.