I was going through the bulk rules. Its an interesting approach, and if it works out I think I'd prefer it over having to add up all your pounds. That said, I wasn't quite sure on the wording in the descriptive entry for backpacks.
From the playtest document, pg. 184:
"A backpack can hold up to 4 Bulk worth of items. If you are carrying or stowing a backpack rather than wearing it on your back, it has light Bulk instead of negligible."
So, is that just where the 4 Bulk of items is carried, or is the backpack granting you an additional 4 Bulk capacity? I'm curious because I could see a backpack increasing your carrying capacity due to being on your back and distributing the weight like they do. Plus bulk considers size and shape and not just weight. I could see it being read either way, though.
Would be nice to get an answer to this. My argument is that the backpack even distributes the weight over your back making it negligible towards the bulk that you can carry overall. Unfortunately the question arises, how many backpacks can you wear?
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Based on the description I'd say it's just a container. Think about how you use a backpack in real life, it doesn't change how much you can carry, it just gives you a place to put things. Mechanically it doesn't have much of an effect except for RP purposes, the assumption being that if you weren't wearing the backpack then you'd have to either carry the items in your arms or find other ways to secure it to your body. The treasure and magic items section of the book does mention the bag of holding which is basically the same as the bag of holding in PF1 just with weight replaced by bulk
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Pinging this one ad I am curious as well as it is a current debate in my group as well.
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Also as backpacks in SF treat your Str as 1 higher (or 2 with the better one) i feel like this may be the intention, though if they went that route we should really see backpacks along the tiers of quality (Normal, expert, master, legendary) that allow you to hold more. At least IMO.
since Bag of holding goes out of its way to clarify that the additional bulk you put in doesn't modify bag of holding's initial bulk of 1, then i have to say normal contairs do modify the total item bulk.
A backpack just allows you to put 4 Bulk in it. It doesn't give you extra Bulk. So lets say I find a treasure hoard of coins that is 4 Bulk, I can fill my bag with it. Otherwise I really have no way to carry it.
Straight RAW from play test.
In a carnival barkers voice: Come see the old man pick up and carry 19 loaded backpacks each loaded with 4 x 4 man tents.
Seriously did anyone look at the load rules? I have pints of oil at - for bulk, you can put 400 pints of oil into a back and carry that with 4 STR. That is 400 POUNDS people, and don't get me on belt pouches 4L (which is fine) but that means 4 pup tents also (pup tent is 1L)
Vorsk, Follower or Erastil wrote: Also as backpacks in SF treat your Str as 1 higher (or 2 with the better one) i feel like this may be the intention, though if they went that route we should really see backpacks along the tiers of quality (Normal, expert, master, legendary) that allow you to hold more. At least IMO. This is what I would prefer as well. Backpacks in real life do actually increase how much you can physically carry, and better-made backpacks do so to a greater degree, so it makes complete sense to me.
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Fuzzypaws wrote: Vorsk, Follower or Erastil wrote: Also as backpacks in SF treat your Str as 1 higher (or 2 with the better one) i feel like this may be the intention, though if they went that route we should really see backpacks along the tiers of quality (Normal, expert, master, legendary) that allow you to hold more. At least IMO. This is what I would prefer as well. Backpacks in real life do actually increase how much you can physically carry, and better-made backpacks do so to a greater degree, so it makes complete sense to me. I agree with both.
I.E.
Normal back pack, +0 total bulk, can carry 4 bulk in it, cca 40L volume
Expert, +1 total bulk, can carry 5 bulk, 50L
master, +2 total bulk, can carry 6 bulk, 60L
legendary, +3 total bulk, can carry 7 bulk, 70L
It is strange that they didn't go that way, as Starfinder has that rule.
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