Fixing Warlocks Class


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I find the Warlock explanation is not satisfying. If you think about it. It really does not make any sense. How would you make a pact? Unless your are a magic user already,then any human can be a warlock. Warlock is a easy status to obtain. A warlock should be a specialized class of witch or a sorcerer. A warlock is polar opposite of War priest. My explanation of a Warlock: A witch or sorcerer who makes a pact in order to obtain more arcane power or forbidden knowledge. The pact should be a item or a contract that you carry with you. If the contract gets destroyed.You revert back being a witch or a sorcerer. Warlock is just a more powerful class of witch or sorcerer.


Isnt the Pathfinder Warlock a vigilante archetype?

Ever read anything about the 1800s and how many conspiracies real and fictional about things like Secret Societies? It actually fits well as few people would want it well known that they make pacts with Devils/Daemons/Demons.


there is no warlock class in pathfinder however this is a pretty good convention over into pathfinder there is a little more work that needs to be done on it though like dividing the invocations up into categories based on form, element and effect and allowing you to use up to one type of modification from each catagory


I looked it up and there is a 3rd Party Warlock class.


ChaosTicket wrote:
I looked it up and there is a 3rd Party Warlock class.

ya there is one 3rd party warlock class that is officially published but it is convoluted and has some really over powered abilities in some areas and then sucks completely with other class abilitie so the one i linked is pretty much the best option


Chaos is right - there is a 1st party Vigilante archetype called the Warlock. It's not the same as the 3.5e Warlock or 5e Warlock, however.

Any chance you could send us a link or refer us to the source of the Warlock you're reviewing? That would help a lot.


published warlock class and unpublished warlock class that i've linked above as for the warlock archetype for the vigilante it sucks so much so don't even bother with it


Lady-J wrote:
there is no warlock class in pathfinder however this is a pretty good convention over into pathfinder there is a little more work that needs to be done on it though like dividing the invocations up into categories based on form, element and effect and allowing you to use up to one type of modification from each catagory

In reality...The warlock explanation of rpg is bad.Warlock actually means a man who practices witchcraft (sorcerer).A pact really does not make sense. It's interchangeable word. Sorcerer,witch,and warlock are the exact same thing. I suggested an idea to fix. It would be better that Warlock will be left as a male witch.


ChaosTicket wrote:

Isnt the Pathfinder Warlock a vigilante archetype?

Ever read anything about the 1800s and how many conspiracies real and fictional about things like Secret Societies? It actually fits well as few people would want it well known that they make pacts with Devils/Daemons/Demons.

Not really...A warlock is a male witch that practices witchcraft.Its a interchangeable word for Sorcerer. A witch,warlock and sorcerer are the same thing. Go read my post again...


You missed that it matches an undercover practitioner of magic making it more distinct than just being another remix of the Wizard.


ChaosTicket wrote:
You missed that it matches an undercover practitioner of magic making it more distinct than just being another remix of the Wizard.

this^ that is why in 3.5 and 5th the warlock was its own distinct class, and also why other games have both a warlock and a mage type class


ChaosTicket wrote:
You missed that it matches an undercover practitioner of magic making it more distinct than just being another remix of the Wizard.

Their are different forms of magic that practitioners can practice. Wizards dedicate themselves to academics of magic.Warlocks are not remixes of a wizard. Why would warlocks need to be limited to just a pact? White Wolf has better explanation for its magic users than pathfinder or D&D.


Puck Baby wrote:
ChaosTicket wrote:
You missed that it matches an undercover practitioner of magic making it more distinct than just being another remix of the Wizard.
Their are different forms of magic that practitioners can practice. Wizards dedicate themselves to academics of magic.Warlocks are not remixes of a wizard. Why would warlocks need to be limited to just a pact? White Wolf has better explanation for its magic users than pathfinder or D&D.

This is why Mage:The Ascension has better magic explanation than D&D & pathfinder combined.

http://www.critical-hits.com/blog/2011/01/04/my-love-letter-to-mage-the-asc ension/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mage:_The_Ascension

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