Does a mount come with some "common sense" miscellaneous equipment?


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I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

Grand Lodge

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Voin_AFOL wrote:

I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

When you buy a horse in the modern era, everything else from horeshoes to saddles, to the bridle costs extra.

It wasn't any different back then, and that's why all of these items are listed under "gear".


I kinda figured (I lived and worked on a farm on the Midwest for 12 years), but hey, I no harm in asking.


Ultimate Equipment has rules for this sort of thing for animals used as trade goods, something similar would probably apply to mounts.

Trade Goods wrote:
Animals: The listed price is for one live animal. For larger animals such as pigs and cows, the price includes a short length of cheap rope, allowing you to lead the creature away. For smaller animals such as chickens and geese, the purchase might include a bag for carrying them.

So no harness, just some cheap rope.


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Remember, while you get the steed, everything from leather seats to ashtrays to even the rear spoiler is optional. Check with the dealership or manufacturer if there are option packages you can go for to save some money.

Of course, more upscale models may come with certain feature packages already installed at no extra charge.


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My cavaliers only ride horses with three spoilers on the back.


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Just don't pay for the undercoating.

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Cheapy wrote:
My cavaliers only ride horses with three spoilers on the back.

SPOILER ALERT


Cheapy wrote:
My cavaliers only ride horses with three spoilers on the back.

Gotta stack that X3 Critical Douchiness modifier!


LazarX wrote:
Voin_AFOL wrote:

I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

When you buy a horse in the modern era, everything else from horeshoes to saddles, to the bridle costs extra.

It wasn't any different back then, and that's why all of these items are listed under "gear".

When you buy a sword in modern era you don't always get a scabbard, belt or whatnot. You just get the sword. Yet the rules state you always getting a scabbard or a quiver to go along your weapon.


Just a Guess wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Voin_AFOL wrote:

I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

When you buy a horse in the modern era, everything else from horeshoes to saddles, to the bridle costs extra.

It wasn't any different back then, and that's why all of these items are listed under "gear".

When you buy a sword in modern era you don't always get a scabbard, belt or whatnot. You just get the sword. Yet the rules state you always getting a scabbard or a quiver to go along your weapon.

In this case, I see a difference.

With a sword, you need to have a scabbard. Unless you wear chainmail pants all the time (and chainmail's obviously inferior to a breastplate), and even then your valuable sword is being exposed to the elements. The horrible, evil, corrosive elements. It's not as major an issue for other items but swords and other mainly-bladed weapons are a little tempermental that way. Who cares how sharp your warhammer is?

Horses, on the other hand, generally don't need a saddle to contain them. On their own, all a horse cares about saddles and saddlebags for are fashion accessories and carrying their own things around. And I can only think of one fictional example where that's even an issue. (And they still walk around mostly without them anyway, for some reason.) As you could be hitching the horse to something, riding it, or just trying to make more horses with it, there's no real 'set gear' for a horse to come with aside from the rudimentary rope to drag it around with.


Qaianna wrote:
Just a Guess wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Voin_AFOL wrote:

I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

When you buy a horse in the modern era, everything else from horeshoes to saddles, to the bridle costs extra.

It wasn't any different back then, and that's why all of these items are listed under "gear".

When you buy a sword in modern era you don't always get a scabbard, belt or whatnot. You just get the sword. Yet the rules state you always getting a scabbard or a quiver to go along your weapon.

In this case, I see a difference.

With a sword, you need to have a scabbard. Unless you wear chainmail pants all the time (and chainmail's obviously inferior to a breastplate), and even then your valuable sword is being exposed to the elements. The horrible, evil, corrosive elements. It's not as major an issue for other items but swords and other mainly-bladed weapons are a little tempermental that way. Who cares how sharp your warhammer is?

Horses, on the other hand, generally don't need a saddle to contain them. On their own, all a horse cares about saddles and saddlebags for are fashion accessories and carrying their own things around. And I can only think of one fictional example where that's even an issue. (And they still walk around mostly without them anyway, for some reason.) As you could be hitching the horse to something, riding it, or just trying to make more horses with it, there's no real 'set gear' for a horse to come with aside from the rudimentary rope to drag it around with.

MLP characters are not normally bought and sold. If hired they might have their own equipment.


Even if it's some time now I come back to this thread once more.
It is much easier to find just any scabbard you can put your sword in than it is to find the right saddle for a horse.
Sure, this is a game in which every medium person can wear the same set of plate mail, but never the less it would be much more fitting to sell a horse with a fitting saddle than a sword with a fitting scabbard unless the latter is especially decorated to go with the sword design.

*I can only really talk about European saddles. Western style saddles might be different in that aspect.


Hmmm good to know about chickens. We recently purchased 100 of them for a... prank...

We now have 100 bags left over. :D

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Just a Guess wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Voin_AFOL wrote:

I know in the weapons section it says "The price includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver."

I was wondering if that applied to mounts as well. Like if I buy livestock from a farm, would it come with at least a harness, or would I have to pay the extra 2 gp for it?

When you buy a horse in the modern era, everything else from horeshoes to saddles, to the bridle costs extra.

It wasn't any different back then, and that's why all of these items are listed under "gear".

When you buy a sword in modern era you don't always get a scabbard, belt or whatnot. You just get the sword. Yet the rules state you always getting a scabbard or a quiver to go along your weapon.

Which argues my point. You don't see such text for mounts.

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