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Is Paizo Publishing putting spyware in their Pathfinder downloads?


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I'm sorry if this ruffles a few feathers but I recently downloaded a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game manual from Paizo Publishing and my antivirus flagged it, quarantined it, and then deleted it. I wish an honest answer from Pathfinder Publishing. Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

Silver Crusade

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Yes, they also hired that black helicopter that's hovering over your house. ;-)


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Having spent a few years in IT I will give you the 3 possible answers and you can guess which one it is:
1. Paizo are an evil corporation and are intentionally putting active malware apps on their PDFs.
2. Some one with a lot of time and IT knowledge has hacked Paizo's distribution servers and somehow managed to get some malware into the PDFs therein.
or could it be
3: Your anti-malware app misdiagnosed a perfectly fine PDF from a very reputable company and deleted something it shouldn't have. Just be glad it didn't remove a system file that permanently crashed your PC!

Silver Crusade

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Option 4: Your PC was infected before you downloaded the file, and the moment you opened the file the virus/worm got inside.


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My vote's on options #3 or #4. More likely #3 if it's Symantec. Piece of crap can't catch a real virus, but it's really good at false-flagging. It just loves to mark freshly compiled applications at work.


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If I subscribe to their spyware, do you think they'll give me a free PDF?

Qadira

Berselius wrote:
I'm sorry if this ruffles a few feathers but I recently downloaded a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game manual from Paizo Publishing and my antivirus flagged it, quarantined it, and then deleted it. I wish an honest answer from Pathfinder Publishing. Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

No, they aren't. If you post the name and version of the antivirus, Paizo might be able to get them to fix the false-positive.

Cheliax

Berselius wrote:
Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

That would be a fine example of "Suicide by lawsuits".


Quote:

Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

That would be a fine example of "Suicide by lawsuits".

Unless it is under the terrorrist act, then they can get away with anything :-)


Damn they might be in to my plan to summon demons to attack our foriegn allies.

Sczarni

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Berselius wrote:
I'm sorry if this ruffles a few feathers but I recently downloaded a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game manual from Paizo Publishing and my antivirus flagged it, quarantined it, and then deleted it. I wish an honest answer from Pathfinder Publishing. Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

We would never, ever do such a thing, we just brainwash you with secret images hidden in the forum text.

Osirion

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Should't that have been Vile Vic Wertz or Wicked Vic Wertz?


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feytharn wrote:
Should't that have been Vile Vic Wertz or Wicked Vic Wertz?

They're both busy.

Silver Crusade

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Vile Vic Wertz is out with Dark Lisa Stevens.

Wicked is ... wait, isn't Wicked the usual Vic?

Osirion

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Ooops, I spoiled it...

P.S.:
It is Darth Lisa Stevens, of that I am quite sure


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I've just downloaded Rappan Athuk and scanned it without issues. Download malwarebytes' scanner and check your PC.

Paizo Employee Paizo Glitterati Robot

I'd really suggest doing a spyware/malware scan on your machine. Our PDFs have security measures in place, but there is 100% no spyware/malware in any of our PDF downloads.

Moved to Website Feedback.


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I have heard good things about malwarebytes as well.

Daron Woodson
Abandoned Arts


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The guy was serious and wanted a serious answer. Just because some of you think the question is laughable doesn't mean it's okay to ridicule him.

Grand Lodge

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If his question/concern had been phrsed like this:

Quote:
I recently downloaded a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game manual from Paizo Publishing and my antivirus flagged it, quarantined it, and then deleted it. Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

.....he probably wouldn't have gotten any responses from the peanut gallery. Instead, he included that bit about ruffling feathers and demanding "an honest answer," which is about the best way to guarantee a bunch of comical answers. The tone of the OP set the tone of the thread.

Also, he did get an honest answer from a Paizo employee at the earliest opportunity. It just didn't happen until a few personalities had some fun with him (and each other).

Meh.

-Skeld


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The OP needs to include more detail. Exactly what product did he download (and when) ? Exactly what AV product is he using ? Exactly what virus/malware did the AV product tell him was contained in it ?

IF (and it's a big if) I had the same Paizo product in my downloads AND I had the same AV checker I *might* have attempted to duplicate his symptom by redownloading that particular Paizo bit and subjecting it to various AV checks.

I also use Malware Bytes as a backup to my regular AV software. The (few) things that have snuck past the AV software are usually revealed by an MB deep scan.


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Instead, he included that bit about ruffling feathers and demanding "an honest answer," which is about the best way to guarantee a bunch of comical answers.

The ruffling feathers part was my way of apologizing in advance for any offense that might be taken. Instead of accepting that people just responded with negativity. Also, please do not shove words into my mouth that I never spoke nor typed. I NEVER USED the word "DEMAND" in my post. I said I "WISH" an honest answer. That can be interpreted in many ways (including politely but sternly asking for an honest response).

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The tone of the OP set the tone of the thread.

That's certainly one way to interpret it. Another way is a whole bunch of Paizo fans misunderstood my "tone" as you put it and decided to jump on me like a shark to a meal.


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I didnt misunderstand your tone - I did think the idea was funny, but I wasnt laughing at you. :)

Apologies if my post came off as an attack.


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Berselius wrote:
I'm sorry if this ruffles a few feathers but I recently downloaded a Pathfinder Roleplaying Game manual from Paizo Publishing and my antivirus flagged it, quarantined it, and then deleted it. I wish an honest answer from Pathfinder Publishing. Is Paizo Publishing including a spyware program in any their downloads?

Yes. In fact, you are being watched right now...


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Actually, OP, your antivirus was merely reacting to an invasion by Paizo's evil twin from an alternate dimension, Oziap Corp. In that dimension, Oziap long ago conquered the world through its domination of the manufacture of toilet paper and icecube trays, and now seeks to expand its malign influence to all other dimensions via co-opting our world-wide web.

Andoran

mach1.9pants wrote:

Having spent a few years in IT I will give you the 3 possible answers and you can guess which one it is:

1. Paizo are an evil corporation and are intentionally putting active malware apps on their PDFs.

This is completely unrelated and off topic, but I gotta ask ...

Are you by any chance from the UK?


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I'll ask again. What Paizo product did you download ? From your brief mention, it might be the Core Rulebook, but I can't tell for sure. What version did you download (all in one file, or the seperate chapters) ?

What A/V software (version and definitions update date) flagged it ? What did it say it found in it ? Do you still have the log it made of its action ?

Have you done a deep scan of your machine ? Did it come up clean ? If you re-download, does it still flag and delete it ? (That is, is the symptom repeatable ?)


Conspiracy Buff wrote:
Actually, OP, your antivirus was merely reacting to an invasion by Paizo's evil twin from an alternate dimension, Oziap Corp. In that dimension, Oziap long ago conquered the world through its domination of the manufacture of toilet paper and icecube trays, and now seeks to expand its malign influence to all other dimensions via co-opting our world-wide web.

If Dr. Hikita hadn't invented the oscillation overthruster, Lord Cosmo Worfin wouldn't have crossed over, and we wouldn't need the help of Buckaroo Teter and The Pai Zo Cavaliers right now.

{returns to work, putting watermelon into a larger hydraulic press}


Berselius wrote:
Quote:
Instead, he included that bit about ruffling feathers and demanding "an honest answer," which is about the best way to guarantee a bunch of comical answers.

The ruffling feathers part was my way of apologizing in advance for any offense that might be taken. Instead of accepting that people just responded with negativity. Also, please do not shove words into my mouth that I never spoke nor typed. I NEVER USED the word "DEMAND" in my post. I said I "WISH" an honest answer. That can be interpreted in many ways (including politely but sternly asking for an honest response).

Quote:
The tone of the OP set the tone of the thread.
That's certainly one way to interpret it. Another way is a whole bunch of Paizo fans misunderstood my "tone" as you put it and decided to jump on me like a shark to a meal.

When you ask someone for an "honest answer," you are implying that he or she may be inclined to give you a dis-honest answer. Do you not see how that makes you sound like somebody trying to catch that person in a lie?


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Guys, this isn't the freaking inquisition. We've all written less than stellarly worded posts before (and are probably more likely to do so when our computers helpfully decide to automatically delete products we purchase). It's obvious he was not trying to attack Paizo, just figure out what the heck happened.

Could you find it in your hearts to let the new guy work out his issue with the staff in peace?


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I second the call to chill the hell out.


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DeathQuaker wrote:
Could you find it in your hearts to let the new guy work out his issue with the staff in peace?

This is the Internet, so I'm fairly certain the reaction to that sentence will be...

"You know, that looks like English, but the sentence makes absolutely no sense."

;P


I've had problems like this in the past, well, once. I bought The Temple of Elemental Evil off GOG and my antivirus kept flagging and deleting the executable. That's part of the reason I stopped using Trend Micro, the other being that I like Avast better.


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DeathQuaker wrote:

Guys, this isn't the freaking inquisition. We've all written less than stellarly worded posts before (and are probably more likely to do so when our computers helpfully decide to automatically delete products we purchase). It's obvious he was not trying to attack Paizo, just figure out what the heck happened.

Could you find it in your hearts to let the new guy work out his issue with the staff in peace?

This+1000.


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I hd a false read the first time I tried to download. Then I tagged the site as trusted and never had the issue again. I think some of the sofware packages just flag anything that even might be an issue.


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Marc Radle wrote:
mach1.9pants wrote:

Having spent a few years in IT I will give you the 3 possible answers and you can guess which one it is:

1. Paizo are an evil corporation and are intentionally putting active malware apps on their PDFs.

This is completely unrelated and off topic, but I gotta ask ...

Are you by any chance from the UK?

Not from the UK, from NZ. But did spent a dozen or so years working for HM flying jets around various nice and not-so-nice locales. Brought back a Brit wife too :D

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber

To all the "be easy on the guy" people:

He got his/her answer, but didn't even as much as say "OK, thanks". I'll just leave that here for you to consider the next time you get on your high horses of self-righteousness.


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Gorbacz wrote:

To all the "be easy on the guy" people:

He got his/her answer, but didn't even as much as say "OK, thanks". I'll just leave that here for you to consider the next time you get on your high horses of self-righteousness.

Oh hush. You're just an angry purse :P


Talonhawke wrote:
Damn they might be in to my plan to summon demons to attack our foriegn allies.

you manage quite well without the demons

Use Malwarebytes and keep it up to date. It is very efficient


Geistlinger wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
Could you find it in your hearts to let the new guy work out his issue with the staff in peace?

This is the Internet, so I'm fairly certain the reaction to that sentence will be...

"You know, that looks like English, but the sentence makes absolutely no sense."

;P

First of all, I have a Master's Degree in English, so it is my right, if not outright obligation, to mangle the language as much as possible.

Second of all, I probably screwed this up somehow, but, regardless, I hope this helps.


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Wow, diagramming sentences. I haven't seen one of those in ages.


Gorbacz wrote:

To all the "be easy on the guy" people:

He got his/her answer, but didn't even as much as say "OK, thanks". I'll just leave that here for you to consider the next time you get on your high horses of self-righteousness.

I had to reach 5th level to get that horse, I'll summon it when I like, thanks.

Paizo Employee Paizo Glitterati Robot

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I think we're a bit off course and the original poster has gotten an answer. Again, if your browser thinks it's getting anything untrusted from paizo.com, or you have something like this happen: please do a scan on your machine and contact webmaster@paizo.com.

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