If you do nothing else, Take out that abyssal ghoul in the portal thing. So much headache for such an insignifigent encounter
I agree about the Ghoul. It was a frustrating encounter for the players, and also frustrating for me as DM since it took a lot of our game time for that session.
I took out the abyssal ghoul and blood amniote encounters. They are both pretty pointless and most parties won't go swimming in a blood river :) My group avoids water at all costs.
I also changed the wind warriors encounter to have them guard only the entrance to the true tomb. If the party doesn't go there first, and heads down to the star chamber first, then it works out and the encounter is avoided as the PC's should have the seal by then. Otherwise they will try to prevent PC's from ascending the stairs to the tomb.
I took out the abyssal ghoul and blood amniote encounters. They are both pretty pointless and most parties won't go swimming in a blood river :) My group avoids water at all costs.
I also changed the wind warriors encounter to have them guard only the entrance to the true tomb. If the party doesn't go there first, and heads down to the star chamber first, then it works out and the encounter is avoided as the PC's should have the seal by then. Otherwise they will try to prevent PC's from ascending the stairs to the tomb.
Just a funny story about the blood amniotes. I thought about removing them too, but 2 pc's retreated from the golems via the blood river. It was too good not to have the amniotes be there after that.
Back on topic: I didnt remove them in my campaign but the Xorn fight was fairly boring IIRC. I think I also removed the gatehouse with the inticate trap that never opens, no matter what. I also changed the poison gas trap at the beginning. I didnt like the idea of the group having to suffer thru a trap just to get some exposition. ( I work hard as a DM, I rather like when my group learns background info.) Lastly, the wind warrior fight, while worthwhile, is a huge pain. I suggest keeping it in, but really really think about and plan how you are going to run a 3 dimensional aerial battle.
My PC's won't go near water anymore either after a few encounters I have put them through.
I will remove the Abyssal Ghoul and the Blood Amniotes probably will not come into play.
I love 3 dimensional aeriel battles so I will be leaving that in.
Oh yeah leave it in. Just wanted to make sure you knew it was a pain to adjuciate. (at least it was for me, my first 3d aerial battle)
I think I also removed the gatehouse with the inticate trap that never opens, no matter what.
Oh yes, I had forgotten that one. That's the one with 5 doors in a row, all with some type of abjuration magic on them, right? A complete waste of time in-game, and with absolutely no point to it.
I think I also removed the gatehouse with the inticate trap that never opens, no matter what.Oh yes, I had forgotten that one. That's the one with 5 doors in a row, all with some type of abjuration magic on them, right? A complete waste of time in-game, and with absolutely no point to it.
Thats the one. I really could see no point to it whatsoever. Except maybe as an ambush point for Flycatcher if he hasnt got anyone yet.
My group despised this adventure overall. They said it was the worst dungeon they have ever played in. The fake doors are just a waste of time and annoying, and the entire dungeon layout, even after I tried to explain it, made no sense to them.
I can see now why people skipped this adventure entirely. Luckily, it's over for us, and we are starting Spire of Long Shadows tonight :)
Yes. We are about to start our 3rd session of STAP in about 3 hours. Its going well, but we've converted to PF and its a pain to convert everything when youre a stickler for detail, as I am.
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I didnt remove them in my campaign but the Xorn fight was fairly boring IIRC. I think I also removed the gatehouse with the inticate trap that never opens, no matter what.
My group didn't fight them, but it would have been a frustrating fight if they had, with their ability to meld with the walls. The xorn would have a hard time hurting most of the PCs back, too.
One of my players had taken levels of Stonelord, so I made this a peaceful encounter, with them giving general information about the rest of the tomb, but not too much. I played them as lazy slackers, who had everything they needed in one room, lying in the river, letting the ore waters flow in one end and out the other.
There's quite a few dead end rooms in the tomb, so I explained this as the xorn downing tools when they're not being prodded. "Oh, that, Yes, we never finished that...no, that door, too, there's nothing behind it. No we never finished that..."
One of the players would not accept there was nothing behind those doors. After several minutes of trying to persuade someone to open them, and being told "There's nothing behind them, that's just something to make thieves waste their time and magic." he proclaimed it a stupid idea, to which, the only possible reply was "Well, you just wasted ten minutes, didn't you?".
I dropped that entire chapter. The only thing I kept was the dragon because he was awesome.
I take that back. The first time I ran it I cut out a lot of it, and made up for it with a made up adventure since the giant undead worm zombified most of the citizens during the gladiator tournament. I really don't care for that chapter at all. It seems like an excuse to give out XP before running into the chapter 7(Spire of Longshadows), which is the most dangerous chapter considering the party's level IMHO.
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I dropped that entire chapter. The only thing I kept was the dragon because he was awesome.
I modified Ilthane slightly.
Since PF has reset the CR for dragons, to better match their actual capabilities (long story short, 3.0 and 3.5 designers under-CR'ed them to make them more badass for their CR, ie ignored the whole point of CR...), Ilthane ended up losing several HD and CR when converted over.
Since the scenario mentions her experiments, and tweaks her stats from the base, I replaced those HD with alchemist levels, so the crunch now matched the fluff.