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Kazmojen Stats


Shackled City Adventure Path


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I know people have complained about the claw/bite damage being reversed in the stats but I'm looking at the stats and I'm seeing a lot of other discrepancies that I'm hoping someone can help me get settled before game night.

First off, he starts out with:

  • +10 melee (1d8+7/x3, masterwork dwarven urgrosh)
There's something that doesn't add up and I can't figure out what it is. I can only come up with +9 melee for him: +3 BAB, +5 Strength, +1 Weapon Focus (dwarven urgrosh). Where is the other +1 melee coming from? Additionally, his damage should be +8, not +7; since he has nothing in his off hand, he's got both hands on his urgrosh, thereby doing Strength x 1.5 damage (5 x. 1.5 = 7.5 = 7) plus 1 for it being a masterwork weapon = 8. So, instead of +10 melee (1d8+7), I'm counting up +9 melee (1d8+8).

His optional single attack is listed as:

  • +8 melee (1d6+4, claw)
We know that's supposed to be (1d4+4, claw) but there's still something not right. Where is this +4 damage coming from? He should be getting the full +5 from strength since it's a single attack, right?

His Full Attacks are similarly messed up:

  • +6 melee (1d8+4/x3, dwarven urgrosh)
  • +2 melee (1d6+2/x3, dwarven urgrosh)
  • +2 melee (1d4+2, bite)
As far as I can see, the attack bonuses should be +5 melee, +1 melee, and +3 melee. The same +9 from above would calculate to +5 and +1 when two-weapon fighting at -4 and -8 respectively. And the bite is a secondary natural attack, thus gets a -5 on the attack roll (which would otherwise be at +8). Leaving aside the damage dice for the bite, the damage modifiers as I see them should be +3 (half strength bonus (5/2 = 2.5 = 2) plus masterwork (1)), +3 (same), and +2 (half strength bonus due to secondary natural weapon). So, altogether the Full Attack stat block should read
  • +5 melee (1d8+3/x3, dwarven urgrosh)
  • +1 melee (1d6+3/x3, dwarven urgrosh)
  • +3 melee (1d6+2, bite)
So, with that many discrepancies, it's starting to make me wonder whether it's really ME that's making a mistake somewhere. Can someone take a look at the above and let me know if I'm missing some bonuses and/or penalties from something? And if this has already been covered somewhere, please point me to it since the Search function on the site is down right now.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Not having my book with me, I can only comment that you made in error in that masterwork weapons give a +1 to attack and not damage.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Not having my book on me, I can't say much. I do notice that you're adding the masterwork weapon bonus to damage. It actually is +1 to attack rolls.


Hi,

The masterwork quality of a weapon adds +1 to the attack and not the damage roll. That already clarifies a few of your problems. I'm not the expert on unarmed attacks, though, so there may still be inconsistencies not explained.

I did notice quite a few inconsistencies myself in the statblocks and thus won't vouch for correctness ;-)

The claw base damage might be 1d6-1 so that the total with strength comes up as 1d6+4 with a +5 STR modifier...

Cheers,
Nib


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

A-HA! So I was RIGHT... when... I... thought I might be doing something wrong.

Don't know why I got mentally stuck on the erroneous belief that Masterwork plus Weapon Focus = +1/+1 instead of +2/-. That certainly does clear up quite a bit. Thanks all for that slap upside the head. =o)

Shannon

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