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Well I would imagine with what I know of Bill and Clark. The magic number is when they feel confident that sales of part 2 and 3 would at the very least break even. As in not cost them out of pocket to pay for art, writing, editing, maps etc. But that is just my guess and i honestly have no clue how much that stuff costs or how much they make per PDF sold.
Greg,
Any word on how close we are to hitting that "magic number" needed to get part 2 and part 3 or is that proprietary information?
It's an interesting situation. As it stands, I can say that I'd be highly likely to spend $60 on the three adventures. On the other hand, I'm not likely at all to spend $20 on the first one alone. I know fewer people will buy #2 and #3 than will buy #1 but a complete work drives up product sales in total.
As it stands, I can say that I'd be highly likely to spend $60 on the three adventures. On the other hand, I'm not likely at all to spend $20 on the first one alone.
That's it for me in a nutshell.
I don't buy incomplete series. If the series requires a large number of purchases of #1 to get #2 and so on, then I know the "series" (and I use that term loosely) was just never for me in the first place.
It doesn't help that the PDFs weren't/aren't appropriately priced.
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I just wanted to point out about the cost. While the production, art, and just how pretty the book is. Is no where near Paizo's Adventure Path series. It is 60% bigger than any single AP. Assuming you get a free PDF with the print copy and they can price it for 30 bucks for the print copy I would consider it reasonably priced. Just thought I would mention it as a reference. For the sheer amount of text it will like actually be bigger than a full AP, as for as total text.
I don't know how big parts 2 and 3 are, but Greg has said they are both bigger than this one. Which of course might effect it's cost. Not trying to convince anyone just wanting to share information so people can make a informed decision.
As it stands, I can say that I'd be highly likely to spend $60 on the three adventures. On the other hand, I'm not likely at all to spend $20 on the first one alone.That's it for me in a nutshell.
I don't buy incomplete series. If the series requires a large number of purchases of #1 to get #2 and so on, then I know the "series" (and I use that term loosely) was just never for me in the first place.
(Looks at his Downer #1, realizes there will never be a #2...weeps...)
I'd be bummed if I bought S. Tsar #1 on POD and then found out that was it. I'd understand if other people were more upset than that. But I'll do it anyway, as I've long ago said I would buy it.
I just wanted to point out about the cost. While the production, art, and just how pretty the book is. Is no where near Paizo's Adventure Path series. It is 60% bigger than any single AP. Assuming you get a free PDF with the print copy and they can price it for 30 bucks for the print copy I would consider it reasonably priced. Just thought I would mention it as a reference. For the sheer amount of text it will like actually be bigger than a full AP, as for as total text.
I don't know how big parts 2 and 3 are, but Greg has said they are both bigger than this one. Which of course might effect it's cost. Not trying to convince anyone just wanting to share information so people can make a informed decision.
I get all that. I look at this as almost an adventure path. That's why I want it, and that's why I want it all. It was designed as a complete work and that's what I'm willing to pay for. The lack of art doesn't phase me at all. Dense content is just fine, thanks. But I'm not in real need of just ST1.
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Well I do know from Greg that ST2 and 3 are mostly done. I think all it needs is maps, edit and a few other things. So i really believe it is just a matter of enough ST1's being sold, so that necro knows it won't cost them out of pocket to make it.
Maybe a patronage project to get the last two out. I would love to see the last two. I have been trying to think of ways to help make sure they get made.
Assuming you get a free PDF with the print copy and they can price it for 30 bucks for the print copy I would consider it reasonably priced. Just thought I would mention it as a reference.
That's a nice bit of hypothetical speculation (and not a 'reference' at all), but isn't all that helpful.
Once reality kicks in and we see a real POD solution and a real price, though, it may be a helpful reference indeed.
My first post about pricing was clear and concise, and still stands.
My situation: I'd drawn up a PC to play in a PbP game here on the boards. The GM vanished a week later, I bought the .pdf, and have been running it since.
I have been having a lot of fun thus far. The background, NPCs, atmosphere, and encounters are top-notch.
One problem: the Desolation is a sandbox environment that the party needs to pass through, rather than one through which they have any motivation to wander about. As the adventure progresses, I can see the PCs moving directly to their goal and side-stepping the other, fascinating, aspects of the Desolation, which lay well off the path from the civilized lands to either (a) the mysteries Up North, or (b) the Temple-City of Orcus.
I asked my players what they want to do once the campaign gets to Tsar, and they suggested that they'd like me to develop my own version of the place, unless Parts 2 and 3 get published by then. So, I'm really hoping to see those products. Not expecting, just hoping.
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Some news about this product. Bill Webb of Necromancer games is starting a new company Frog God Games. They will be doing a subscription for all three of the Slumber Tsar books. They will be sent out by chapter and all three will be updated to Pathfinder rules, with new art and maps.
With the subscription you will get all the chapters sent to you over time for all three books, as well as a hardback book of all three completed and collected Slumber Tsar books. For more information you can go to their web site.