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I couldn't agree more. However, everything 5e improves in this regard is done even better by other versions of D&D. I can certainly see the reasons for moving away from Pathfinder, but now that retroclones and OSR is a thing, I don't see any advantage to 5e in particular.
Anybody have comments on the released adventure material so far? This is something that could be appealing or not for me. My group wont even try 5E because they are in love with Paizo APs and chargen options. 5E cant compete at this stage for them, but I'm hoping in the future to get a chance to get my group to try it out.
Having read through Lost Mines of Phandelver and Hoard of the Dragon Queen, I found them both mediocre. Pretty much like most WotC 4E adventures: Certainly usable, but nothing special. Definitely not nearly as good as the rules themselves.
That said, I know the rules were a moving target, especially for Hoard. I have higher hopes for the post-Tyranny of Dragons material.
Looking forward to getting my hands on one. However, a lack of Monsters by Challenge index is a disappointing (and even a little baffling) ease-of-use ding. Much like not denoting the spells with the ritual tag in the class lists in the PHB. I guess they had to leave something to improve in future printings. ;-)
David Bowles wrote:
Yeah, there's a difference. The book is not that expensive, and no scenarios require the feat to succeed. Non-skill based PCs aren't affected at all. I agree that perhaps the feat should have been introduced in the guide to society as well.
I think it would be clearer. If not included, at least mentioned so people playing skill-based PCs understand the feat and it's implications for their characters.
And in fairness, it may still happen.
David Bowles wrote:
It makes it harder, I agree. Just as season 4 make things harder. It's this season's equivalent of loading up on cold iron weapons and anti-outsider tech.
I guess I see the difference as this: Cold iron is core. Technologist? That changes the way core skills operate. Heck, most people outside the boards whom I've asked don't even know it exists. Plus "Year of the Demon" is a pretty good hint you can expect to deal with Outsiders. "Year of the Sky Key?" Not so much.
David Bowles wrote:
Get technologist on a skill monkey for season 6, and then just retrain it away later.
That works once you know about it. For some reason I can't discern, it isn't mentioned in the Guide to Organized Play (despite there being a "special rules for Season 6" section!)
But even so, how does a season 6 skill-money feat-tax make the game more enjoyable for anyone?
Yes, you might not benefit directly by doing the right thing. But someone else does. And hopefully they remember, and maybe they even do the right themselves in the future...whether or not they expect to be rewarded. By acting selflessly, over time we can improve society for everyone.
Or, you know, FUGM.
I don't think it takes Confucius to figure out which one works better for everyone in the end. ;-)
Mark Seifter wrote:
Each circuit is either broken, or it isn't. Once you've tested the first one, the amount of information available has changed, allowing you to be restate your original hypothesis.
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
I don't always agree with SKR, but when I do, it's because he writes something like this.
First, Mark rocks for participating in this thread.
Second, can Pathfinder Unchained live up to all of these expectations? Well, since as someone pointed out, there are undoubtedly mutually exclusive expectations for the book, no. No it can't.
But a more useful question for each of us to ask ourselves might be "Can Pathfinder Unchained live up to my expectations?"
In my case, if it can deliver on the promises of "a new system for resolving player actions [which is] designed to speed play and dispel confusion" and "a math-lite system for on-the-fly monster creation," then it will go a long way toward addressing at least some of my disenchantment with the system.
So, my 38 fame Dark Archive Hellknight Armiger CAN or CANNOT purchase the full Hellknight vanity when his fame hits 40 fame?
The bit about Scarab Sages and the Risen seem to indicate that he can, but the earlier part about retaining vanities seems to imply he can never become a full Hellknight.
Clarification from leadership would be greatly appreciated. :)
Wow. I still have my copy of the BBB! My binding is fine and I used the HELL out of it. To be fair though this is my third one as I gave my older copies away to friends when they got hooked on the game.
It really seems that game books are very hit and miss. The binding 1E UE is generally considered to be terrible, but I never had a problem with mine.
Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
Divine protection would have been fine it if gave a flat +1 sacred bonus to all saves. As it is, it is broken, broken, broken for Oracles.
Ah...in that case, you're right. As a medium creature, she has the option to wield it 2-handed (instead of 1-handed), but should probably use the 1-handed damage die.
I'm not familiar with the Titan Mauler archetype. Wow.
Seriously, in every other industry, 'edition' means 'published revision.' Using the word properly, pathfinder is already on its sixth edition. And, arguably, pathfinder is itself the third edition of "D&D 3.0".
Yeah...that is confusing. They really should have gone with "version" or somesuch when they did 2E in '89. But they didn't, and it stuck.
Having owned the 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 6th printings of the CRB*, I would definitely pay extra for a Smyth-sewn copy. Alas, I fear I am in the minority. Maybe if we get a deluxe edition some day...
* In fairness, none of the bindings failed. I gave my 1st printing copy to a friend when I got the 3rd printing, and I still have the rest.
Edit: I did have my copy of Champions 4E (the Big Blue Book) rebound when the binding gave out...I've been paranoid about the binding of large hardbacks ever since.
For the most part, I found the hybrid classes both conceptually and mechanically redundant. But then again, I'm very much a "core-only" guy, so the book wasn't really aimed at me.
Besides, I still bought the book in PDF for PFS purposes, because the price was so reasonable, and just to reward Paizo's digital-friendly behavior.
I think I still need to put on it Paizo's community Use policy disclaimer because that paragraph is under the Permissions which has the text
If I recall correcty my business law correctly, Paizo owns the copyright to the Bonekeep scenarios, and to any rendition of the maps which is contained therein. Paizo may have trademarked "Bonekeep" (and if the haven't, they probably should). However, they do not -- if fact cannot -- own the layout of the dungeon, meaning you would be free to post your map under the name "Skeletalcastle" or whatever (assuming you aren't using any copyrighted art). That said, if you can do what you want within the community use policy, it's probably easier for everyone concerned. :)
Edit: Femur Fort? :P
I tend to ignore the setting specific ones (Dragonlance, Greyhawk, OA) unless I'm playing in those settings, though I had forgotten about the Survival Guides. As for 2E basically being "a splat book for 1st ed"...not exactly sure what you're trying to imply with that, but I don't consider a new edition a splat book for the prior edition.
As for what happens with 5E -- they've implied they're going to go slower than 3E or 4E, but who knows?
Sure. And if anyone on this board thinks that WotC wont VERY quickly start adding tonnes of splat books to add as many options, then you dont know the history of D&D.
The closest thing 1E had to a splat book was UA. TSR did, however, produce plenty of modules. Some of WotC's recent comments hint they might be going in a similar direction.
So their letting Amiri slide past the the "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" rule because technically she can treat a bastard sword as a one-handed weapon and therefor a large-sized bastard sword is in fact still considered a two-handed weapon to a medium-sized creature who is proficient with it?
Nope...I'm pretty sure she's taking the -2.
In your defense...Poe's law
Lisa Stevens wrote:
WotC wasn't immune to the crappy paint job every so often either
As someone who purchased at least a thousand, this is absolutely true. There were some real stinkers...but there were some really good ones, too. Just like Pathfinder Battles.
Of course it's a lot easier to overlook a dog when the cost per figure is $1.25, rather than $3+, but that's hardly Paizo's fault. After all, Paizo doesn't have Hasbro (who I hear knows a thing or two about large scale toy manufacturing) behind 'em.
James Jacobs wrote:
So THAT explains why you never read my posts. ;-)