Question to cubic feet


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What do you mean by 5 cubic feet (i.e. the spell Creation).
Is it 5 * 5 * 5 feet or the mathematical expression 1,71 * 1,71 *x 1,71 feet = 5 feet³?


I'm not a cubic foot but I'm pretty sure they meant a cube with a 5 ft side (i.e. 125 cubic feet). Yeah, math is tricky.


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IMO;
RAI: a cube 5' per edge
RAW an 18" x 18" x 27" rectangle or five 1'x1'x1' cubes


I'd appreciate clarification from Paizo.


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I will just note that "5 cubic feet" has a specific meaning that is different from "a 5 foot cube." Paizo has declined in the past to answer requests to "clarify" plain English language.

Also, "5 cubic feet" is a fairly sizable volume for a single object: 5 feet long x 1 foot wide x 1 foot thick, 10 feet long x 2 feet wide x 3 inches thick, etc.


Dragonchess Player wrote:

I will just note that "5 cubic feet" has a specific meaning that is different from "a 5 foot cube." Paizo has declined in the past to answer requests to "clarify" plain English language.

Also, "5 cubic feet" is a fairly sizable volume for a single object: 5 feet long x 1 foot wide x 1 foot thick, 10 feet long x 2 feet wide x 3 inches thick, etc.

So I understand 5 cubic feet is the same as 5 cubes of 1 cubic feet (1 ft. x 1 ft. x 1 ft.).

Thanks for clarify this.


It's worth noting that five cubic feet of volume is pretty big still- enough to make two life-size statues.


QuidEst wrote:
It's worth noting that five cubic feet of volume is pretty big still- enough to make two life-size statues.

This will of course depend on what it is a life-sized statue of. 2 average humans? Sure, they're 2.3 cubic feet. 2 average Nagaji? Not so much with their average 6'8" height and 230 lbs weight. Could get a whole pile of sptites though.


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I love it when spells reference volume. Leaves a lot of leeway when it comes to shaping. For example, you may be able to make the statue bigger by making it hollow.

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Ravingdork wrote:
I love it when spells reference volume. Leaves a lot of leeway when it comes to shaping. For example, you may be able to make the statue bigger by making it hollow.

I, as a GM, would kill this immediately by stating the created object has to fit the given volume, even if it is hollow.


graystone wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
It's worth noting that five cubic feet of volume is pretty big still- enough to make two life-size statues.
This will of course depend on what it is a life-sized statue of. 2 average humans? Sure, they're 2.3 cubic feet. 2 average Nagaji? Not so much with their average 6'8" height and 230 lbs weight. Could get a whole pile of sptites though.

You can still get one average nagaji, though. They only occupy about 3.7 cubic feet of volume, assuming they're no more dense than a human.


For those who don't like spending large quantities of time on game night doing geometry, just get a ruling from your table and move on with the game.

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Manni#7168 wrote:
I'd appreciate clarification from Paizo.

You'd be very lucky if you get one.


BotBrain wrote:
Manni#7168 wrote:
I'd appreciate clarification from Paizo.
You'd be very lucky if you get one.

Yeah, that'd be winning the lotto jackpot level of luck there [especially if it was actually here and not some random podcast or post on another site].


graystone wrote:
QuidEst wrote:
It's worth noting that five cubic feet of volume is pretty big still- enough to make two life-size statues.
This will of course depend on what it is a life-sized statue of. 2 average humans? Sure, they're 2.3 cubic feet. 2 average Nagaji? Not so much with their average 6'8" height and 230 lbs weight. Could get a whole pile of sptites though.

Ok, now I'm not so sure. Maybe I was too hasty, especially for a guy who likes reading what's written.

It probably won't even be the only place where they would've used 'non-rounded' quantities.


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5 cubic feet is pretty specific. I think everyone understand what it means.

I think what people are hoping for, is that maybe Paizo meant 1 5ft cube (which would be 125 cubic ft).

Sorry, but I think Paizo meant exactly what they said.

If we look back at the old PF1 version of the spell it gave you 1 cubic ft per caster level, and duration was also caster level based. They set a flat volume and duration instead for the PF2 version. IMO, not a lot to question here. It's a small volume of stuff you can make appear from nothing.

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