Unarmed attacks and off-guard

[jkwilson]

Hello!

I'm trying to find text in PF2e rulebooks that defines if a standard unarmed punch from a character with trained unarmed skill (not monk, or something that gains an unarmed attack like goblin or lizardfolk) can count as threatening for flanking a creature to create the off-guard condition.

i.e. can I walk my halfling cleric armed with a healing potion in each hand and tell the skeleton I'll kick him if he doesn't let my friend on the other side make him off-guard?

The internet seems confused as AI is telling me one thing with no source, and all material is covering 1e or Starfinder.

Thanks for your time!

[Dr. Frank Funkelstein]

"you must be wielding melee weapons or be able to make an unarmed attack"

Flanking on AoN

Don't ask LLMs for game rules

[Bluemagetim]

Go to [https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=2191] unarmed attacks AON[/url].

So yes you can have your hands full with potions and kicks or head-buts or shoulder slams are still available for an unarmed attack or any other bodypart available to strike with.

[jkwilson]

Right on, just straight forward then. Thanks for the answers!

For the record, I didn't ask them, they forced their opinions on me at the top of the search!

[Eoran]

Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

Don't ask LLMs for game rules

Or anything else that needs to be factually correct.

[Claxon]

jkwilson wrote:

Right on, just straight forward then. Thanks for the answers!

For the record, I didn't ask them, they forced their opinions on me at the top of the search!

I can understand that, every google search result now basically has an AI summary at the top. Just ignore them. They make stuff up and are incorrect a lot of the time, especially when it comes to table top because they seem to have difficulty telling different editions apart from one another, and even sometimes confuse systems (like Pathfinder and D&D) because there are similarly named rules elements.