Greetings, Pathfinders! Your friendly neighborhood Guides Team lead here.
The Guide to Organized Play: Pathfinder Society (Second Edition) has been updated on Lorespire.Paizo (link) to version 6.00!
Version 6.00 is a major reorganization of the Guide, which now has the same structure as the Starfinder Society Guide. There have been minimal rules changes, although there are numerous parts rephrased or clarified. For reference / to aid the transition, we have put together a summary spreadsheet (link) ordered by where sections were ("Sections by v5 Source" tab) and where they are now ("Sections by v6 Destination" tab).
As always, please use this thread to leave feedback on the Guide itself. Keeping on topic keeps this thread as helpful (and your suggestions as easy to implement) as possible. Please do not use this thread for program implementation / campaign rules discussions; off-topic posts will be removed. Use other threads (existing or new) to give feedback on the Pathfinder Society (2nd edition) play experience.
Explore, Report, Cooperate!
Note: version 6.00 was live as of July 30, but between GenCon and recovering from GenCon, Paizo staff has been a bit busy, so this post is just going up.
Also, quick plug for the Intro page, which has a quick summary of recent changes, quick links to frequently used sections of the Guide, links out to other campaign rules, and more. There is also a link at the bottom of each of the primary pages back to the Quick Links section of the Intro page. Let us know your ideas for improving those as well!
Thanks, really nice to see the change log etc.
One small issue:
On the Remaster page, the link in specific rules 5, Dragons points to
Link wrote: https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=v5pfs._.Pathfinder +2e+Remaster And it should point to
Fixed Link wrote: https://lorespire.paizo.com/pfs2guide._.Pathfinder-2e-Remaster#Dracon ic_Options_Table
Pirate Rob wrote: Thanks, really nice to see the change log etc.
One small issue:
On the Remaster page, the link in specific rules 5, Dragons points to
Link wrote: https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=v5pfs._.Pathfinder +2e+Remaster And it should point to
Fixed Link wrote: https://lorespire.paizo.com/pfs2guide._.Pathfinder-2e-Remaster#Dracon ic_Options_Table
Thanks! There may have been ahem a couple of other bad links on that page, too, but they should be fixed now.
That "v5pfs._." business in the page address is an artifact of how we made the switch to the new organization of the Guide (and stashed the old pages out of public view, but kept for a bit in case we needed them).
Bad news: there may be other bad links of that nature we haven't caught yet; good news: this sort of error should be (better be!) quite rare, since we shouldn't be re-organizing things very often.
I admit to not checking for other bad links and just reporting the one I noticed.
The ahem was a "nobody saw this, move along" of lightly teasing myself, not any sort of criticism of you to be clear. Cheers!
This came up in the v5.x thread, but reposting it here so it’s in the thread for the version of the guide that it appears in.
Draconic Bloodline was reprinted. The Dragon Types are listed in the bloodline. Chromatic and Metallic Dragons don’t appear. It is clear that a new/remastered Draconic Sorcerer cannot select from those options. It is not clear whether or not a Sorcerer that does not rebuild can keep their Dragon Type. Based on the ruling for Oracles that they have to use the new Mysteries, presumably Sorcerers have to use the new Bloodlines. And the new Bloodline does not include Chromatic and Metallic dragons.
However, the remaster rules strongly imply that a Sorcerer who does not rebuild can keep their dragon type:
Remaster Rules wrote: Characters which have been rebuilt using their Remaster Rebuild may not use the chromatic or metallic dragons for any of these options. If no Sorcerer can use Chromatic or Metallic Dragons, then the guide should say so. If Wyrmblessed can continue to use the chromatic and metallic options, since it was not reprinted, but Draconic cannot, please clarify. If Draconic can continue to use those options if they don’t rebuild, definitely clarify, because that potentially affects someone’s decision about whether or not they want to rebuild.
Ferious Thune wrote: This came up in the v5.x thread, but reposting it here so it’s in the thread for the version of the guide that it appears in.
Draconic Bloodline was reprinted. The Dragon Types are listed in the bloodline. Chromatic and Metallic Dragons don’t appear. It is clear that a new/remastered Draconic Sorcerer cannot select from those options. It is not clear whether or not a Sorcerer that does not rebuild can keep their Dragon Type. Based on the ruling for Oracles that they have to use the new Mysteries, presumably Sorcerers have to use the new Bloodlines. And the new Bloodline does not include Chromatic and Metallic dragons.
However, the remaster rules strongly imply that a Sorcerer who does not rebuild can keep their dragon type:
Remaster Rules wrote: Characters which have been rebuilt using their Remaster Rebuild may not use the chromatic or metallic dragons for any of these options. If no Sorcerer can use Chromatic or Metallic Dragons, then the guide should say so. If Wyrmblessed can continue to use the chromatic and metallic options, since it was not reprinted, but Draconic cannot, please clarify. If Draconic can continue to use those options if they don’t rebuild, definitely clarify, because that potentially affects someone’s decision about whether or not they want to rebuild.
We will take this up on the Guide Team & with the Organized Play Coordinator, but I wouldn't expect any movement for at least 10 days. No guarantees after that on timeline; I just know it won't be sooner.
edited to add: Also, thanks for bringing it over to this thread, as well as summarizing & clarifying! We always appreciate it!
The remastered draconic and demonic bloodlines for the sorcerer completely replace their focus spells with new ones that have different names. Would the team consider making a ruling that draconic/demonic sorcerers can choose whether to gain the Core 2 focus spell or the CRB focus spell? The old spells grant unarmed attacks, which are desirable for players with melee combat sorcerers. Removing them would also be incredibly disruptive for PC concepts that rely on them. I'm not seeing any compelling reason why these focus spells should become totally inaccessible. It appears the spells were replaced in order to grant less niche options.
Also, the Draconic Options Table in Lorespire appears to have a typo: the Crystal Dragon erroneously has fire damage instead of piercing damage.
Cyrad wrote: The remastered draconic and demonic bloodlines for the sorcerer completely replace their focus spells with new ones that have different names. Would the team consider making a ruling that draconic/demonic sorcerers can choose whether to gain the Core 2 focus spell or the CRB focus spell? The old spells grant unarmed attacks, which are desirable for players with melee combat sorcerers. Removing them would also be incredibly disruptive for PC concepts that rely on them. I'm not seeing any compelling reason why these focus spells should become totally inaccessible. It appears the spells were replaced in order to grant less niche options.
Also, the Draconic Options Table in Lorespire appears to have a typo: the Crystal Dragon erroneously has fire damage instead of piercing damage.
I will ask about that ruling, but it's up to staff.
Crystal Dragon has been mentioned by a couple of folks; it's on the short list. It does look like a typo, but I'll double-check with staff.
Most likely we won't be able to make changes (if any) for at least 2-3 weeks, maybe longer.
Thanks!
I'm trying to get ahold of Regional Venture-Coordinator (for 'the' Online "region") Jesse Davis. However, all of my emails appear to be undeliverable. I have been unable to find any info on who else to contact, so I thought I would check here in case someone can assist me. Thank you so much, in advance, for any knowledge you can impart!
I just cast Summon RVC to help you and Jesse connect.
The correct email should be ironhelixx@orgplayonline.com it looks like, at some point, the updated addresses reverted back to the old one on the VO list - will have that corrected. You can also PM me on Discord at HTTP://orgplayonlinechat.com
Apologies for the confusion
VikingPrincess wrote: I'm trying to get ahold of Regional Venture-Coordinator (for 'the' Online "region") Jesse Davis. However, all of my emails appear to be undeliverable. I have been unable to find any info on who else to contact, so I thought I would check here in case someone can assist me. Thank you so much, in advance, for any knowledge you can impart!
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Thank you! I sent a PM on Discord. :) I look forward to hearing from you. :)
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A new version of the Guide to Organized Play: Pathfinder Society (v6.01) was just published!
Major changes:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Remaster Rules: Corrected crystal dragon entry
Added Series 2 Quests to pre-calculated Earn Income table
AcP Boon List: Updated World Traveler text per blog post
See change log for complete details.
Links:
Guide: bit.ly/PFS2_Guide
Change log: bit.ly/PFS2_changelog
Single page layout: bit.ly/PFS2_onepage
Links to the single-page layout, change log and quick links are posted at the bottom of all navigation pages.
Please let us know if you find part of the Guide that needs our attention. Thank you!
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Petronius wrote: Links:
Guide: bit.ly/PFS2_Guide
Change log: bit.ly/PFS2_changelog
Single page layout: bit.ly/PFS2_onepage
Sorry, old link to the Guide itself. (Goes to the manual redirect page now, so it will still get you there eventually, but not ideal.)
Correct link to the Guide: bit.ly/GuidetoPFS2
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Petronius wrote:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Is it worth mentioning this, potentially important, forum somewhere publicly?
Is it possible for the single-page layout to default to showing full tables rather than tabbed for convenient PDF printing?
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Petronius wrote: Cyrad wrote: The remastered draconic and demonic bloodlines for the sorcerer completely replace their focus spells with new ones that have different names. Would the team consider making a ruling that draconic/demonic sorcerers can choose whether to gain the Core 2 focus spell or the CRB focus spell? The old spells grant unarmed attacks, which are desirable for players with melee combat sorcerers. Removing them would also be incredibly disruptive for PC concepts that rely on them. I will ask about that ruling, but it's up to staff.
Thanks! I have asked, and the answer is no for that exception.
Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Is it worth mentioning this, potentially important, forum somewhere publicly? It's not a Guide project; we're just linking to it. That said, where did you have in mind?
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Magus Tata wrote: Is it possible for the single-page layout to default to showing full tables rather than tabbed for convenient PDF printing? "Get better PDFs" is pretty high on the tech wish list. I don't think there's a switch to flip to default to full tables for printing, though. At least not with the basic printing that's currently what we have.
The mildly good news is at least toggling to 'no tabs' works when you do it on the regular page (before clicking print) or on the print version page. That's annoying to have to do it at all, I 100% agree.
All I can say is I agree and there are some things (which I don't fully know) behind the scenes tech-wise that need to happen first. Thanks!
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Petronius wrote: Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Is it worth mentioning this, potentially important, forum somewhere publicly? It's not a Guide project; we're just linking to it. That said, where did you have in mind? PFS Blog or its own thread?
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Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote: Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Is it worth mentioning this, potentially important, forum somewhere publicly? It's not a Guide project; we're just linking to it. That said, where did you have in mind? PFS Blog or its own thread? Blog is a Paizo staff thing. I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up there, but [a] I have no knowledge whether it will and [b] I don't know how quick the turnaround time on blog posts is.
OPC Alex announced it on its own thread, in General Discussion (the subforum where the discussion took place which led to the new errata forum).
* Announcement (stickied post in Org Play > General)
* Foundry Errata Forum
On the Remaster page, the staff of transmutation is listed as an example of something you can still buy, and in the Withdrawn table as something you cannot.
Petronius wrote: Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote: Darrell Impey UK wrote: Petronius wrote:
Added multiple references & links to new PFS adventure errata forum
Is it worth mentioning this, potentially important, forum somewhere publicly? It's not a Guide project; we're just linking to it. That said, where did you have in mind? PFS Blog or its own thread? Blog is a Paizo staff thing. I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up there, but [a] I have no knowledge whether it will and [b] I don't know how quick the turnaround time on blog posts is.
OPC Alex announced it on its own thread, in General Discussion (the subforum where the discussion took place which led to the new errata forum).
* Announcement (stickied post in Org Play > General)
* Foundry Errata Forum The problem is that the forum link seems to have posts that say “X issue has been fixed” without explaining how.
medtec28 wrote: Petronius wrote:
Blog is a Paizo staff thing. I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up there, but [a] I have no knowledge whether it will and [b] I don't know how quick the turnaround time on blog posts is.
OPC Alex announced it on its own thread, in General Discussion (the subforum where the discussion took place which led to the new errata forum).
* Announcement (stickied post in Org Play > General)
* Foundry Errata Forum The problem is that the forum link seems to have posts that say “X issue has been fixed” without explaining how. This is a known issue, but one I can't really influence. You are not the only one who has raised it, so I can assume it's been heard. I have no info to share, though.
glass wrote: On the Remaster page, the staff of transmutation is listed as an example of something you can still buy, and in the Withdrawn table as something you cannot. Could have sworn we fixed that before. Thanks! (Resolved now by deleting the example.)
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A new version of the Guide to Organized Play: Pathfinder Society (v6.02) was just published!
Major changes:
PCs have Access to all common and uncommon languages without restriction
PCs understand Pathfinder Hand Signs (formerly Napsu-Sign)
Daily preparations can be changed after the briefing
Replaced "Run As Written" with "Run Prudently" & corresponding extensive revisions to "Permitted Table Adjustments"
Hearing-impaired but not deaf PCs, Non-speaking PCs: gain free Sign Language & can take Read Lips; non-speaking PCs cast spells & use magic items without issue
See change log for complete details.
Links:
Guide: bit.ly/GuidetoPFS2
Change log: bit.ly/PFS2_changelog
Single page layout: bit.ly/PFS2_onepage
Links to the change log and single-page layout are available at the bottom of all navigation pages.
Please let us know if you find part of the Guide that needs our attention. Thank you!
A query- When voluntarily replacing borrowed consumables, are the regular access rules waved? E.G. Could a player who was lent a bottle of Elsie's Excellent Bottled Vim (A keepsake consumable from Rusthenge) replace the vial after they used it? Or could a 6th level character choose to pay to replace a potion of quickness (an 8th level item) they were lent?
Squark wrote: A query- When voluntarily replacing borrowed consumables, are the regular access rules waved? E.G. Could a player who was lent a bottle of Elsie's Excellent Bottled Vim (A keepsake consumable from Rusthenge) replace the vial after they used it? Or could a 6th level character choose to pay to replace a potion of quickness (an 8th level item) they were lent? I cannot make official rulings—I just lead the team that writes them up—so whatever grain of salt is necessary. That said, the text says “you can replace the item” without reference to how you do so. Since replacing is explicitly exempt from the rule against PC-to-PC transfers, there’s no functional difference between your PC buying a replacement and handing it to the other and going with them to the store and paying for what they have Access to, so to speak.
In short: yes.
(With the possible exception of the keepsake consumable you mention. I don’t know that one specifically, so if it’s a one-time item, for example, you couldn’t use this ruling to just keep getting copies. But typical items, go to town.)
Thank you for clarifying. According to sanctioning documents, consumables are the only keepsakes you can buy more than one of, so replacing them should ve acceptable. I just used a keepsake as an example of a consumable few would have access to.
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Just realised, the Earn Income table has no entry for 7th or 8th level characters who have Master skill level.
Darrell Impey UK wrote: Just realised, the Earn Income table has no entry for 7th or 8th level characters who have Master skill level. Those characters are attempting a 5th/6th level check to earn income. The earn income table doesn't actually check for master proficiency until the task is 10th level or higher. I guess it would be helpful to know that being master doesn't impact the check at that level, though.
You don't earn anything extra for Master proficiency until task level 10.
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A new version of the Guide to Organized Play: Pathfinder Society (v6.03) was just published!
Changes were relatively minor, including updated tenses re: deity deaths, expiration of the Remaster Rebuild, etc. Other changes include:
Introduction > Remaster Rules: Removed interim references to sanctification and oracle options (now reprinted)
Core Guide > Being a GM: Added recommendation to report ASAP within 2 weeks; expanded pre-calculated Treasure Bundles table to PC level 20
See change log for complete details.
Links:
Guide: https://bit.ly/GuidetoPFS2
Change log: https://bit.ly/PFS2_changelog
Single page layout: https://bit.ly/PFS2_onepage
Links to the change log and single-page layout are available at the bottom of all navigation pages.
Please let us know if you find part of the Guide that needs our attention. Thank you!
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A new version of the Guide to Organized Play: Pathfinder Society (v6.04) was just published!
Changes:
Player Options > Spellcasting Service Costs: Corrected prices and added explanation of calculations
Links:
Guide: https://bit.ly/GuidetoPFS2
Change log: https://bit.ly/PFS2_changelog
Single page layout: https://bit.ly/PFS2_onepage
Links to the change log and single-page layout are available at the bottom of all navigation pages.
Please let us know if you find part of the Guide that needs our attention. Thank you!
The link in the header "Follow this forum thread for update notifications and to report any issues." still points to the 5.x forum thread.
Where do I find the "curated list"s mentioned on the boons page?
https://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/browse?path=organizedPlay /myAccount/rewards#tabs
Brian G 315 wrote: Where do I find the "curated list"s mentioned on the boons page?
https://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/browse?path=organizedPlay /myAccount/rewards#tabs
The FAQ Page
Recent threads in Pathfinder Society
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