| Zarius |
The closest I can think of is the talent Sneak Training. But it only lets you be treated as having the sneak attack die of your rogue level for PrC requirements. But it doesn't actually give you the sneak attack feature.
Murf. That's close, but no banana. One of my archetypes does away with sneak attack for other stuff, but I still want the actual sneak attack. The problem, of course, is that Accomplished Sneak Attacker only works if you've already *got* the base feature.
Right now, the only thing I've got that works without actually splashing Assassin or something is VMC. Which doesn't actually say that you're not allowed to take it in the same class your primary class is in. Seems a little... Silly. But it's technically legal.
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Heather 540 wrote:The closest I can think of is the talent Sneak Training. But it only lets you be treated as having the sneak attack die of your rogue level for PrC requirements. But it doesn't actually give you the sneak attack feature.Murf. That's close, but no banana. One of my archetypes does away with sneak attack for other stuff, but I still want the actual sneak attack. The problem, of course, is that Accomplished Sneak Attacker only works if you've already *got* the base feature.
Right now, the only thing I've got that works without actually splashing Assassin or something is VMC. Which doesn't actually say that you're not allowed to take it in the same class your primary class is in. Seems a little... Silly. But it's technically legal.
vmc cavalier, order of the Blossom will get you sneak attack.
1d6 at 7th, 2d6 at 8th, 3d6 at 14, 4d6 at 20
Cavalier
A character who chooses cavalier as his secondary class gains the following secondary class features.Order: At 1st level, he chooses an order. He must follow the edicts of his order.
Challenge: At 3rd level, he gains the ability to issue a challenge as a cavalier of his character level – 2 once per day. He adds the appropriate order adjustment to his challenge based on the order he selected.
Order Ability: At 7th level, he gains the 2nd-level ability of his chosen order, treating his character level as his effective cavalier level.
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Sneak Attack (Ex): At 2nd level, an order of the blossom cavalier can make a sneak attack, as the rogue ability of the same name. At 2nd level, his sneak attack damage is +1d6. This damage increases by 1d6 at 8th level and every 6 levels thereafter. If the cavalier gets a sneak attack bonus from another source, the bonus damage stacks.
| Zarius |
Deific Obedience to the likes of Shax or Nocticula or Tanagaar can get you 2 or 3 Sneak Attack die. I'm sure there are more deities that gift it to you, as well. I'm just too lazy to look any further after I found it from the first three deities on the list when I searched "Sneak Attack" on AoN.
Shax and Tanagaar, specifically. Which is ironic since *one* is CE and the other is LG, though I don't know if they're from the same pantheon. The others only modify sneak attack you have or incoming sneak attacks.
Unfortunately, they're both the third tier of list, so that's putting me at level 20 to get them...
| Zarius |
My only thought is the 'Sense Vitals' spell
What are your archetypes?
Perhaps there is a way of getting what the archetype gives you, and you keep with a Rogue archetype that gives you the sneak attack
It's a third party one that gets rid of sneak attack. True Professional. Which gives you a feat every time you would get a die of sneak attack. Which I'd be perfectly fine converting back in to sneak attack, if I can find a way. Which, yes, I know is silly, why take the archetype if I don't care about that particular modification, right? I'm using the first listed perk to qualify for something, pending my GM's approval.
Nocticula's 2nd Sentinel boon gives you +2D6... but yes, the other two I listed are 3rd boons.
That's... Only if you're a Sentinel, yeah? I ignored everything that didn't have it in the list of stuff you get for obedience. I haven't seen a way to get the sentinel items without being a sentinel. It's completely possible I missed something somewhere.
| Minigiant |
Minigiant wrote:It's a third party one that gets rid of sneak attack. True Professional.My only thought is the 'Sense Vitals' spell
What are your archetypes?
Perhaps there is a way of getting what the archetype gives you, and you keep with a Rogue archetype that gives you the sneak attack
Honestly at this point you might as well just ask the GM to Homebrew something that gets you sneak attack back
| Minigiant |
Derklord wrote:Nightmage.Zarius wrote:I'm using the first listed perk to qualify for something, pending my GM's approval.Qualify for what? And why Rogue to qualify? Maybe there's an alternative path.
More 3rd Party?
The only Nightmage thing I can find is from Flaming Crab Games, which is another Rogue Archetype, which doesn't make sense with what you are asking. A little more transparency and people will be able to assist you