Hey all
I didn't really get into PF 1st ed, but I've heard good things about 2ed to the point I'm seriously considering buying it. One thing that puts me off is the amount of errata that's out for the core rulebook.
Is there a specific site on Paizo that I can go to be updated on how the errata is being handled? I have the site for errata listings, but I was more after the "when" it's being incorporated into the core rulebook hard copy.
Thank you.
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I think there are a few things in the errata FAQ that aren’t in the 2nd printing, but not much. The PDFs get updated (though possibly only when the physical books are updated), so if you’re worried about buying the book and not getting future changes, get the pdf and you can always download the most recent version.
But also as was said, Archives of amethyst should be current as well.
There’s unfortunately no published schedule on when the errata will happen. It’s tied to when they do a new printing of the book.
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One thing that puts me off is the amount of errata that's out for the core rulebook.
Regularly updating an expansive, collaborative literary product with Errata should be viewed as a good thing.
Imagine if the first iteration of a 600-page rulebook was all you ever had to operate off of....
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IIRC, the 1E Core Rulebook was Errata'd 5 times, but back then we only had the wonky Paizo PRD for online use (and only for the Core line!), which I don't think was ever updated. Many times the embedded hyperlinks didn't even function.
Archivesofnethys, which is now Paizo's sponsored and official SRD, is SO much better.
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... I have the site for errata listings, but I was more after the "when" it's being incorporated into the core rulebook hard copy.
I'll see if I can dig up an reference post for you, but the official answer is "it varies." Just like any other printed entertainment product, Paizo prints a large number of books in one lot. If they start getting low on books they schedule another print run.
Edit: ah, here we go.
We don't generally provide advance notice before releasing a reprint that incorporates new errata, as doing so could cause prospective buyers to delay their purchase until we start selling the new version, which would then cause stores to take longer to sell through the previous printing, meaning it could actually delay the release of the reprint.
More discussion and complaints in that thread.
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Thanks all for the advice.
Ideally, I'd like to buy the hard copy with the least amount of errata. I'll keep an eye out to see how it goes.
I can't seem to find the subscribe button for email notifications. Is there one?
Been all over my account settings and I can't find how to enable notifications.
In your Account Settings in the left column the box the last box is called "Privacy Settings". There you can set messaging and e-mail preferences.
Here is also a direct link to just the settings box, I hope that works if you can't find it.
I've got:
> Private Messages (members of paizo.com may send me private messages)
> Products, Offers, News, and Events
> Organized Play
> Digital Content Updates
But no option to notify me when someone posts in a thread I'm watching
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood! I do not know if that's possible. Apologies.
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If you’ve purchased a product it should send an email whenever it’s updated.
If you've purchased a product directly from Paizo.
I also don't know if this is true if you bought only the physical copy. If you buy the pdf, an e-mail is sent if you have that option enabled.
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If you’ve purchased a product it should send an email whenever it’s updated.If you've purchased a product directly from Paizo.
I also don't know if this is true if you bought only the physical copy. If you buy the pdf, an e-mail is sent if you have that option enabled.
Malgwyn isn't asking alerts for product purchases. They want email alerts if someone posts in a thread that they've been posting in. As far as I know, this site doesn't offer that option.
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Ah my bad, I misread based on the errata question above.
For posts on a thread there are the RSS feeds... if you can get them to work.
I misread it at first, too. On this site, the word "subscribe" takes my mind straight to the idea of product subscriptions.
Thanks all for the advice.
We've had a little talk about playing 2ed (I definitely want to have a go at GMing it) but right now we're playing 1st edition. To that end, I'd like to purchase a hard copy of 1st edition. Does anyone know what the latest print run of the 1st edition hard copy, is?
Thanks all.
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Thank you
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Long-time player of D&D3.5 and PF1e, just now diving into the PF2e rule set. O bought what apparently was a 1st run hardcover core rulebook and a later version of the same book in pocket version.
I'll preface this rant by saying that D&D3.5 had a ton of errata - MOSTLY RULE CLARIFICATIONS.
As I'm reading - just made it to Druid, I noticed the text of number of cantrips in the text (5) didn't match the table (4). Red flag. And a deep dive online followed. Found out there have already been multiple editions (printings) of the books and determining which version you have is in itself an adventure.
Finally made it to the PAIZO website and found the voluminous amount of errata in three different printings. Sure enough, Druid has 5 cantrips like everyone else.
I'm pretty disappointed in this original release. I can understand errata that clarify rules, but many of the changes ARE the rules, and as crunchy as this PF2e is, it makes first run core rule books ideal to lend to people to learn the game, but after that, they are pretty much garbage.
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All errata that change the game for the better are welcome in my book.
Honestly, I think Paizo doesn't do nearly enough. We're living in the 21st century, my friend. We don't need to hold to the same principles of early TTRPG and its constraints. With so many things being online, having errata correcting stuff without the need for reprints is great. I don't really care if books become "Obsolete", as long as the game itself is improved by the new errata.
It's doesn't cost a thing to check it out. Having it freely available and easily accessible certainly cuts down on any excuses for it being a good thing.
The best of all? These rules changes don't need to be implemented in your game at all, unlike it would be for a videogame's patch notes.
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I'm pretty disappointed in this original release. I can understand errata that clarify rules, but many of the changes ARE the rules, and as crunchy as this PF2e is, it makes first run core rule books ideal to lend to people to learn the game, but after that, they are pretty much garbage.
That's the problem with dead-tree books. It's one of the reasons why I buy the pdf versions instead. If you buy the pdf version of a book from Paizo, you can download the later updated printings for free. :)
Plus I love that they are way more portable, more easily searched, and have better bookmarking options than the paper versions. And as others have mentioned, there is also Archives of Nethys.
I'm pretty disappointed in this original release. I can understand errata that clarify rules, but many of the changes ARE the rules, and as crunchy as this PF2e is, it makes first run core rule books ideal to lend to people to learn the game, but after that, they are pretty much garbage.
Uh... the vast majority of the changes are just clarifications and rewrites where people were struggling with RAI but functionality stays the same. A couple of rule changes where things were missed in the final edit... and a very small number of real rule changes or rebalances.
Also PF1e had the benefit of being made on top of 3.5, which had the benefit of being a rather big paid errata of 3.0. And had the detriment of not having enough fixed in it early enough.
So 3.0 to 3.5 to pf1e... all with their own errata. Not a good point of comparison :p
As for versioning, it is printed at the end of the final page near the credits and open gaming license. Reprints being labled as second printing and third printing and the year respectively above the "printed in china" text
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Thanks all for the advice.
Ideally, I'd like to buy the hard copy with the least amount of errata. I'll keep an eye out to see how it goes.
I understand the desire, but it's not how reality is going to work.
Based on PF1 and it's approximate 10 year life span with 5 printed erratas and a ton of FAQ posted online, any printed edition is only good for a limited amount of time. And then don't release a new print until the old one is sold.
Understand that buying a printed copy of the core rulebook is more a sign of affection and love to Paizo, rather than an authoritative end all be all rule book.
The Archives of Nethys is honestly what most people reference, even those who have bought the rule book. Honestly the CRB isn't even where Paizo makes money. Adventure paths and other stories are where they make money.
