three-heritage silliness

[Sanityfaerie]

So... I have had a silly rules-bendy thought, and I'm wondering if there's *any* way to pull it off.

Half-elves have certain delightfully cheeseball benefits as a heritage. Ancient Elves are also a fair nudge above the standard power level, and taking half-elf to elf atavism into Ancient Elf to get the benefits of both is... well, it would be even more cheeseball, except that it's pretty much forbidden because ancient elf requires a lifespan that half-elves just don't have.

Now, there *are* other ways to get an appropriately long lifespan, even as a level 1 character. In particular, the Dhampir Versatile Heritage will do it. It's dhampir lifespan rather than the specific elven lifespan feature, so it's not at all guaranteed, but if you could somehow pull it off, it's the sort of thing that you *might* be able to convince a GM with.

My question, then, is this: is there any way within the rules to somehow be both a half-elf and a dhampir, at level 1, without having spent your ancestry feat?

[Temperans]

I would say Adopted, but that doesn't really work.

Honestly, I don't know I know I tried making a Half-Elf, with Elf Atavism and Fetchling (for the shadow jump). Trying to replicated an Elven Spirit Half-Elf. But I didn't really see anything of use.

Only, possible way is maybe convincing a GM to let you take a long live race and make it half-elf. (Ex: Gnome Half-Elf)

[HumbleGamer]

Given the Lost Omen Character Guide Errata

Quote:

Page 25: The ancient elf heritage is lacking guidance about an appropriate age for the heritage. After the heritage's first sentence, add "A typical ancient elf is at least 100 years old, though you might be younger at the GM’s discretion." As the heritage is based on an elf's biological lifespan, it is an example of the type of heritage that a half-elf can't take.

It seems something intented, because of balance purposes.

As Temperans said, a DM might allow something similar to the damphir / Half elf / ancient elf you proposed, but that's it.

[cavernshark]

I don't believe there's any mechanical way to achieve a character with two versatile heritage components, nor does it appear to be the intent. Versatile heritages have explicit language on how to handle things like half-elf dhampirs.

Many Ancestries wrote:

Though a character can have only one heritage, it doesn't mean characters with lineages tracing back to multiple ancestries or heritages don't exist. It's certainly possible for a dhampir to be born to a half-elf mother, or for a duskwalker to appear in a community of death warden dwarves. In these cases, the influence of the versatile heritage overshadows the other heritage—the dhampir heritage overshadows the half-elf heritage, and the duskwalker abilities replace those of the death warden dwarf heritage. So while, superficially, a character might bear a resemblance to both heritages, mechanically, they only gain the benefits of the versatile heritage.

Source: Advanced Players Guide p. 28

[Temperans]

Yeah 2 variant heritage is a tough sell. A long lived ancestry with a variant heritage is fine however.

[Ignis Fatuus]

A dwarven half-elf? A dwerlf? Dwerlves? Dwerlven?