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Have the book, can confirm Corrisive Body augments Acid Splash similair to Fiery Body and produce flame. It specifically mentions increasing the splash radius from 5ft to 15ft.Ok, I'll be on the lookout for that when I get the book. If it really does splash 5' then I'd suggest using it with one of the reach/ranged options.Can you point to a rule that allow that?Yes and no, luckily there is a Acid spell in SoM that explicitly confirms that acid splash affects all nearby creatures. I don't remember the name of the spell but if you have the book you will probably find it easy. There are so many Secrets of Magic forums that I get lost with so many spoilers hahaha!
LOL I wish the core book actually said that. Thanks for letting me know. ;)
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I think it's something people only really deep I the weeds actually argue about. Most people reading with natural language in mind would read splash damage to mea damage that splashes like other splash damage.
There is a difference between something that splash it's target, splashes the target's square, splashes 5' from the target, one that does so 10', ect and that is something a natural read can't do.
I've actually found that people read it and bombs thought that the spell didn't have a 5' area since they wouldn't have to explain it under bombs if splash damage defaulted to 5' from target. You also have monsters with natural weapons [even though it technically doesn't work as they aren't weapons] that specifically have the Splash trait on them like the Grothlut, Gibtas Bounder and Gibtanius. Either the splash trait should be added to things that deal splash damage or splash damage should have a default radius added.
The spell only doesn't go off on a critical miss. On a miss, it still works.
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Acid splash says target and all nearby creaturesOk, I'll be on the lookout for that when I get the book. If it really does splash 5' then I'd suggest using it with one of the reach/ranged options.Can you point to a rule that allow that?Yes and no, luckily there is a Acid spell in SoM that explicitly confirms that acid splash affects all nearby creatures. I don't remember the name of the spell but if you have the book you will probably find it easy. There are so many Secrets of Magic forums that I get lost with so many spoilers hahaha!
This seems like errata, maybe? I have had 2 GMs rule that the spell doesn’t have the splash trait, which only could work with weapons anyway, and thus splash damage is just a damage type. I am thrilled SoM is resolving this
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Ancillary Effects:
Your spell still has
any non-targeted effects that might affect creatures other than the target, as well as any ongoing effects starting from the moment you hit with the Strike. For example, acid splash would still deal its splash damage to creatures other than the target and tanglefoot’s circumstance penalty would last for its normal duration. The spell takes effect after the Strike deals damage; if the Strike has other special effects, the GM determines whether they happen before or after the spell.
This should clear it up.
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I thought spellstrike only hurt the target, even when used with AoE spells. Is it not the case ?
So far what I've read is that fireball affects everyone in the area of effect including the Magus himself. But cone or line AOE spells originate from the Magus and therefore don't hit himself. That's why I'm guessing that spells like burning hands are more effective than fireball in most cases. But there are so many burst spells that someone is sure to find one that synergizes with spellstrike!
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I think this means that if you miss but not critically miss, the spell still goes off (for AoE save spells I mean), since it specifically points out the spell being lost on a crit fail.
That really is a great action economy boost.
I thought spellstrike only hurt the target, even when used with AoE spells. Is it not the case ?So far what I've read is that fireball affects everyone in the area of effect including the Magus himself. But cone or line AOE spells originate from the Magus and therefore don't hit himself. That's why I'm guessing that spells like burning hands are more effective than fireball in most cases. But there are so many burst spells that someone is sure to find one that synergizes with spellstrike!
I haven't really read in depth yet, but under spellstrike it says that your strike + spell only hits the target of your strike even if the spell normally allows more targets unless you take a feat(s) to change that.
I haven't really read in depth yet, but under spellstrike it says that your strike + spell only hits the target of your strike even if the spell normally allows more targets unless you take a feat(s) to change that.I thought spellstrike only hurt the target, even when used with AoE spells. Is it not the case ?So far what I've read is that fireball affects everyone in the area of effect including the Magus himself. But cone or line AOE spells originate from the Magus and therefore don't hit himself. That's why I'm guessing that spells like burning hands are more effective than fireball in most cases. But there are so many burst spells that someone is sure to find one that synergizes with spellstrike!
You need a level 2 feat to allow usage of AoE spells in the first place. AoEs from that target DCs as normal and treat the spellstrike target (or corner of their square or whatever) as the origin point for the AoE.