Exhaust undead?

[Finite_Fellow]

Hey all I know undead are immune to exhaustion but is there an item or feat to make it so that you can exhaust undead enemies?

[MrCharisma]

I don't specifically jnow about exhaustion, but there are ways to overcome the immunities of undead creatures, such as the THRENODIC SPELLmetamagic feat. That one's probably not going to help with exhausted specifically, I'm just showing an example.

Does it have to be exhausted? What are you trying to achieve?

[Ryze Kuja]

The undead work 24/7 and are plenty tired enough as it is, and now you want to exhaust them!?! *angrily shakes a stick*

[Mark Hoover 330]

The Repose domain causes Undead touched with the Gentle Rest power to become Staggered for a number of rounds. That's about as close as I could get I think.

[Finite_Fellow]

MrCharisma wrote:

I don't specifically jnow about exhaustion, but there are ways to overcome the immunities of undead creatures, such as the THRENODIC SPELLmetamagic feat. That one's probably not going to help with exhausted specifically, I'm just showing an example.

Does it have to be exhausted? What are you trying to achieve?

My current build operates using the exhausting critical feat but recently we have come across a bunch of undead enemies. I know that dropping the dex of an undead is essentially worthless but the -6 to strength actually helps my party a lot drunk guys combat because of the lower attack damage per enemy from mobs of undead. Since my crit range is 15-20 and I get 8 attacks per round I can usually crit 3-4 of them a round.

[MrCharisma]

Well you have 2 problems - Undead are immune to Fatigue and Exhaustion, but they're also immune to damage or penalties to their physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution).

If you're fighting undead enough you could go for Sickening Critical - it's not quite as good at lowering enemy attacks and damage, but it also effects saves/etc.

[Claxon]

Yeah, undead are just going to be a problem for your build as they're immune to fatigue, exhaustion, and ability score damage. You would have to find something that would overcome those....and I don't think such a thing exists.

Also are you level 16 with greater two weapon fighting with and haste to be able to get 8 attacks per round?

[MrCharisma]

Could be generating a lot of AoOs

[Finite_Fellow]

Claxon wrote:

Yeah, undead are just going to be a problem for your build as they're immune to fatigue, exhaustion, and ability score damage. You would have to find something that would overcome those....and I don't think such a thing exists.

Also are you level 16 with greater two weapon fighting with and haste to be able to get 8 attacks per round?

Yup.

[UnArcaneElection]

Whenever I see the title of this thread I keep expecting it to be about defeating Undead by forcing them to breathe exhaust . . . but I don't think that would actually work.

[avr]

15-20 crit range on 8 attacks is an average 2.4 crit threats, if you confirm 80% of them then it's under 2 crits/round. Usually 3-4 implies convenient memory or loaded dice.

There were a couple of spells which could make undead vulnerable to effects like exhaustion in D&D 3.5 but they weren't in the OGL and weren't replicated in PF1. I think in PF1 the only way to inflict exhaustion on an undead creature would be to raise it from the dead first.

[VoodistMonk]

This is why we don't put all our eggs in one basket. Lol.

Undead just are not going to fall for that particular trick of yours, so use your backup option... trick numba two! You have more than one trick, right?